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    Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    As House Democrats embark on an effort to expand background checks Gabby Giffords is making clear that it is only the “first step” in a larger push for gun control.
    WRDW quoted Giffords describing an expansion background checks as “a critical first step toward strengthening America’s gun laws and making our country a safer place to live, work, study, worship and play.”

    Secondly, Giffords’ admission that an expansion of background checks is only the “first step” is a critical one for gun owners to note. After all, such an expansion has proved insidious in places where it has been adopted, with background checks leading to registration, confiscation, and more.

    Consider California, a state that adopted expanded background checks in the early 1990s. That was followed by gun registration requirements, gun confiscation laws–via Gun Violence Restraining Orders–all of which are now partnered with a 10-day waiting period for gun purchases, an “assault weapons” ban, a ban against buying more than one handgun a month, a requirement that would-be gun buyers first acquire a safety certificate from the state, a “good cause” requirement for concealed carry permit issuance, a ban on campus carry for self-defense, and controls on ammunition purchases.

    Moreover, even now California Democrats are pushing to expand the one-handgun-a-month ban to include long guns as well. This would be mean Californians could only lawfully buy one gun a month, regardless of gun type.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ds-first-step/

    California imo would be a good model for many other states. A Safety Certificate is a great idea.

    Although a citizen should be able to buy more than one handgun a month if they want.
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Universal BGC laws are the first step toward establishing a need (compelling state interest?) for having universal gun registration laws. After all, how else would one (the state?) know that person A got gun B after passing a BGC?
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Universal BGC laws are the first step toward establishing a need (compelling state interest?) for having universal gun registration laws. After all, how else would one (the state?) know that person A got gun B after passing a BGC?
    Personally, we need a federal database and registry. Tax those individuals that buy guns and use that money for gun safety.
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Personally, we need a federal database and registry. Tax those individuals that buy guns and use that money for gun safety.
    which is stupid since the the vast majority of damages from firearms misuse are perpetrated by people who cannot and do not buy guns legally. The registry is unconstitutional when applied to such people anyway.

    its like taxing people who don't drink for the damage caused by drunk drivers
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ds-first-step/

    California imo would be a good model for many other states. A Safety Certificate is a great idea.

    Although a citizen should be able to buy more than one handgun a month if they want.
    and now you know why most mass murderers flock to the western states. Hard to say no when you’re looking down a criminals weapon, knowing full well you gave up your right to self-defense ages ago.

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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    That seems like something a braindead person would say. "My shooter passed a background check. Clearly...thats why we need MORE background checks."

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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    which is stupid since the the vast majority of damages from firearms misuse are perpetrated by people who cannot and do not buy guns legally. The registry is unconstitutional when applied to such people anyway.

    its like taxing people who don't drink for the damage caused by drunk drivers
    Actually, my city passed a tax on sugary drinks and it has raised $10 million for healthy foods and better education. They should honestly take it a step further and tax all sugary drinks including coffee/milk beverages.

    A gun/ammo tax can be used for things that you like: Gun training and safety. I am guessing you are not opposed to that???
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Actually, my city passed a tax on sugary drinks and it has raised $10 million for healthy foods and better education. They should honestly take it a step further and tax all sugary drinks including coffee/milk beverages.

    A gun/ammo tax can be used for things that you like: Gun training and safety. I am guessing you are not opposed to that???
    I am against anti gun politicians trying to limit or tax a constitutional right and pretending that will decrease crime.
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Personally, we need a federal database and registry. Tax those individuals that buy guns and use that money for gun safety.
    Nonsense, we do not need to institute a "sin tax" for folks simply electing to exercise their constitutional rights.
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    Re: Gabby Giffords: Expanding Background Checks Only the ‘First Step’

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    use that money for gun safety.
    What specifically does that even mean and what specific problem do you think you will solve???

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