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    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...police/570124/

    https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z...dna-data-finds

    Why is the NRA silent in cases like Philando Castile? Or what about this case?

    https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/

    How can gun rights apply to African Americans if right wingers will support militarized police when they shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun''?

    Does the ''good guy with a gun'' get applied to African Americans by the NRA or Fox News or any right-wing outlet?

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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...police/570124/

    https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z...dna-data-finds

    Why is the NRA silent in cases like Philando Castile? Or what about this case?

    https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/

    How can gun rights apply to African Americans if right wingers will support militarized police when they shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun''?

    Does the ''good guy with a gun'' get applied to African Americans by the NRA or Fox News or any right-wing outlet?
    Does the NRA support gun rights of African Americans? Well, yes, Yes_Minister. Of course they do. Because anti-gun (a.k.a. "gun control") laws in various states and municipalities affect everyone within those municipalities, whether the citizens are black, white, Hispanic, or Asian. By safeguarding gun rights broadly and supporting candidates who are anti-gun control, the NRA protects the Second Amendment rights of individual citizens of all races.
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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    ...Why is the NRA silent in cases like Philando Castile? Or what about this case?

    https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/

    How can gun rights apply to African Americans if right wingers will support militarized police when they shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun''?

    Does the ''good guy with a gun'' get applied to African Americans by the NRA or Fox News or any right-wing outlet?
    Defend the rights of Black Americans?

    Well...



    Colion Noir is a spokesman for the NRA and he has his own vlog on YouTube. Does he speak for Black American gun owners? I think so.

    As for the NRA being "silent in cases like Philando Castile?" It is not the NRA's role to virtue signal by "speaking out" on every bad use of guns, since there are multitudes of anti-gun organizations already filling that niche.

    However, the NRA does advocate for law and order when arguing for the right to keep and bear arms. If someone, anyone breaks the law then the NRA would argue they face justice regardless of race, or social position, like any other law and order advocate.
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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Does the NRA support gun rights of African Americans? Well, yes, Yes_Minister. Of course they do. Because anti-gun (a.k.a. "gun control") laws in various states and municipalities affect everyone within those municipalities, whether the citizens are black, white, Hispanic, or Asian. By safeguarding gun rights broadly and supporting candidates who are anti-gun control, the NRA protects the Second Amendment rights of individual citizens of all races.
    Then why do they do nothing for people for Philando Castile or Jemel Roberson? Why does the NRA seem indifferent to the threat the militarized police pose to African American gun owners? The NRA is a powerful part of the right-wing coalition, they could speak out against the police militarization and the way some cops use gun ownership to gun down African Americans, but they don't, because there is no money in it and they do not want to tick other powerful right-wing forces, like the police militarization movement.

    Heck if the NRA is so supportive of African American gun rights, why did they support Reagan passing gun control in California in the 60s to disarm the Black Panthers?

    You cannot say that everyone who wants a gun should have one and then say its justified for the cops to shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun'' without being a hypocrite.

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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...police/570124/

    https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z...dna-data-finds

    Why is the NRA silent in cases like Philando Castile? Or what about this case?

    https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/

    How can gun rights apply to African Americans if right wingers will support militarized police when they shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun''?

    Does the ''good guy with a gun'' get applied to African Americans by the NRA or Fox News or any right-wing outlet?
    This is a convoluted mess of a post, which is really just a string of non-sequiturs.
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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...police/570124/

    https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

    https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/z...dna-data-finds

    Why is the NRA silent in cases like Philando Castile? Or what about this case?

    https://www.themarysue.com/a-good-with-a-gun-killed/

    How can gun rights apply to African Americans if right wingers will support militarized police when they shoot African Americans because ''they might have a gun''?

    Does the ''good guy with a gun'' get applied to African Americans by the NRA or Fox News or any right-wing outlet?
    WTF are you talking about - do you really expect us to follow all those links and magically discern what you think is germane in each?

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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Defend the rights of Black Americans?

    Well...



    Colion Noir is a spokesman for the NRA and he has his own vlog on YouTube. Does he speak for Black American gun owners? I think so.

    As for the NRA being "silent in cases like Philando Castile?" It is not the NRA's role to "speak out" on every bad use of guns since there are multitudes of anti-gun rights organizations filling that niche.

    However, the NRA does advocate for law and order when arguing for the right to keep and bear arms. If someone, anyone breaks the law then the NRA would argue they face justice regardless of race, or social position, like any other law and order advocate.
    So what, one African American spokesman makes everything okay now? Didn't Noir say 2 years, we needed to get all the facts before making a judgment on the Castile case, well its been two years, has he come up with a reason why the NRA is silent on this case?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3j34rJytl8

    He wants to blame the media, but its been 2 years, if he doesn't have the facts to make a judgment call at this point, how much is he going to bat for other African American gun onwers? Why should I care about this guy if he doesn't want to take on his organization when they decide to be selective in who these rights apply to?

    And frankly there is a pattern here, the NRA almost never seems to defend African American gun rights:

    https://www.themarysue.com/nra-gun-rights-racism/

    If it's not the NRA's job to defend African American gun rights, then pray tell who's job? Because seems its no one's job, because the Second Amendment does not seem to apply to African Americans compared to others, so no one is going to defend their rights.

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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes_Minister View Post
    So what, one African American spokesman makes everything okay now? Didn't Noir say 2 years, we needed to get all the facts before making a judgment on the Castile case, well its been two years, has he come up with a reason why the NRA is silent on this case?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3j34rJytl8

    He wants to blame the media, but its been 2 years, if he doesn't have the facts to make a judgment call at this point, how much is he going to bat for other African American gun onwers? Why should I care about this guy if he doesn't want to take on his organization when they decide to be selective in who these rights apply to?

    And frankly there is a pattern here, the NRA almost never seems to defend African American gun rights:

    https://www.themarysue.com/nra-gun-rights-racism/

    If it's not the NRA's job to defend African American gun rights, then pray tell who's job? Because seems its no one's job, because the Second Amendment does not seem to apply to African Americans compared to others, so no one is going to defend their rights.
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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseye View Post
    WTF are you talking about - do you really expect us to follow all those links and magically discern what you think is germane in each?
    Its a pretty simple point I am making, that the NRA does not care about the gun rights of the vast majority of African Americans and will not go to bat for them if a cop decides to shoot a black man, because he ''might'' have a gun. Those links provie examples and context, but that is my point and you bothered to read my OP you would know that.

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    Re: Does the NRA defend the gun rights of African Americans?

    much dishonesty in the OP-its another attempt to bash the NRA. The people most hurt by Democrat party gun laws are poor honest blacks. WHY

    1) Poor blacks are the most likely victims of violent crime

    2) poor Blacks live-in higher proportions than most others-in areas that are infected with anti gun laws passed by Democrats

    3) Poor blacks-due to finances and racism-are less likely to be able to get carry permits in areas where Democrats have made such licenses harder to get

    IIRC the Plaintiffs in some of the major pro gun decisions were blacks. I believe Mr McDonald (v chicago) was.

    SO when the NRA pushes for SHALL ISSUE laws, those laws tend to help blacks rather strongly
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