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Generation Z reported the most mental health problems, and gun violence is the biggest stressor

I can’t imagine that growing up with social media is a net positive for mental health. When you grow up in an environment when you are constantly aware of the worst things going on in the world that has to have a negative impact on one’s outlook. When most of us were growing up you would maybe tune in for an hour of news each evening but rest of your day you just lived your life. But now it is just a constant stream of bad news every waking hour, fed straight to you via your smart phone.
 
Renae said:
So it's okay for you to pass judgement and comment on my concerns, but wrong of me to have views of others. Right well, this is why most people ignore you Haymarket, you're irrelevant.
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We are all irrelevant in what we do here. Have you not caught on yet? :doh:roll:
 
ThoughtEx. said:
I don't give a **** what your opinion is, or whether you think I spend all my time staring at my phone.
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It seems like you do.

ThoughtEx. said:
It's dumbass stereo type,
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It's a stereotype that has been observed by many people (including myself) to be true. It doesn't mean that EVERY millennial does that (as I am one who doesn't), but the majority of millennials I come across have their phone shoved in their face more often than not, and it has many negative effects on actual in-person socializing as well as mental health and personality issues (I've personally experienced those negative effects).

ThoughtEx. said:
made to belittle and disrespect our generation.
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ANNNNNND as I thought; it's an identity issue with you. "Our generation" is being disrespected... Ummmm, no... people are simply observing things about millennials and having opinions on those observations. And, according to this assertion of yours (as well as your assertions about baby boomers) you are then, in return, "belittling and disrespecting" baby boomers... Oh, but that's fine, since that's not directed towards you... You're really displaying all of the typical millennial stereotypes in this series of exchanges, and that's coming from a fellow millennial...

ThoughtEx. said:
And it comes from people who are tech retarded.
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It also came from me just now, and I am a millennial who is not tech retarded. And yes, baby boomers didn't grow up with social media/current technological advances... Your point??

ThoughtEx. said:
And yes, there are millennials who can't use technology. Just like there are boomers who can.
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Correct.

ThoughtEx. said:
so you having problems with not being able to hand your social media, doesn't mean a goddam thing.
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Not sure what the connection is between what you said and my past social media addiction issues...

ThoughtEx. said:
Boo hoo, social media depressed me, im much better now that I agree with all the old people who affection and validation I need.
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Wrong. I'm much better now because I got away from that crap. It brought out numerous bad qualities in myself, so once I realized exactly what it was doing to me and how it was affecting me, I got rid of it. I've been very happy ever since. It has nothing to do with receiving affection and validation from old people.

ThoughtEx. said:
More like, you started saying you hated it, they started praising you, and you finally got some friends and became less depressed.
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Wrong. I shocked all of my friends by mostly disappearing from social media, and didn't say anything to "old people" about it until well after the fact. I actually have way less friends now than the days when I was overusing social media. When I had the most friends I've ever had, I was the most depressed and unhappy with my life. Now, I have the least friends that I've ever had and I am the most happy with my life that I've ever been.

This has nothing to do with friend numbers and literally everything to do with overuse of social media and obsessing over what everybody else was experiencing instead of being content with who I am and what I have. Becoming more attached to my Christian faith has also helped me immensely.

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ThoughtEx. said:
Because from what I can see, I don't think you have many friends your own age.
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My two best friends are almost 2 months older than me and 12 hours younger than me. Pretty similar in age, I would say... My two favorite cousins are 1.25 years younger than me and 7.25 years younger than me. Quite a bit younger than me I would say... My favorite uncle is maybe 20? years older than me, and I'm close with my grandma, who is ~54 years older than me. Quite a bit older than me, I would say.

Other friends I've had over the years have all varied in age, from 7ish years younger than me to 7ish years older than me (most of them +- 3-4 years to me).

At this point, I don't have many friends and I don't want many friends. I'm quite the introvert, and don't enjoy high exposure to socializing. A small amount of socializing lasts me quite a long time.

ThoughtEx. said:
People usually dont tend to like to hear how ****ed up they are because they understand a tool old ****s don't.
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I can't stop laughing at this point because you are supporting damn near every single stereotype made about millennials hahaha this is downright hilarious... And remember, this is coming from a fellow millennial. --- And "old ****s" don't hate the tool; they hate the negative effects and consequences that result from over-usage of the tool... I can completely see where the "old ****s" are coming from, now that I have 'lived it'... Hopefully Gen Z-ers can learn from the mistakes that the millennials are making...

ThoughtEx. said:
I'm fine with hating boomers. Let me put it this way, I also make when they die. Lots of money. And that I love.
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Cool. Whatever floats your boat. You seem to really love money... I like having enough money to survive, mind you, but I find that the 2 F's (Family and Faith) are much more important than money. That's another thing that can have negative effects on people's personalities, and like social media, is another thing that I want to avoid "over-exposure" to...

Especially when I can clearly see (as evidenced here) how both social media and money have affected your personality...
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I can’t imagine that growing up with social media is a net positive for mental health. When you grow up in an environment when you are constantly aware of the worst things going on in the world that has to have a negative impact on one’s outlook. When most of us were growing up you would maybe tune in for an hour of news each evening but rest of your day you just lived your life. But now it is just a constant stream of bad news every waking hour, fed straight to you via your smart phone.
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Exactly correct, and another good point!

That's another reason why I have adjusted my habits concerning those things... I just want to 'enjoy life' and live the life that I do have... You only get one chance at it... so make the most of it.

I already wasted away most of my 20s, and damned if I'm gonna waste away any more of it...
 
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My two best friends are almost 2 months older than me and 12 hours younger than me. Pretty similar in age, I would say... My two favorite cousins are 1.25 years younger than me and 7.25 years younger than me. Quite a bit younger than me I would say... My favorite uncle is maybe 20? years older than me, and I'm close with my grandma, who is ~54 years older than me. Quite a bit older than me, I would say.

Other friends I've had over the years have all varied in age, from 7ish years younger than me to 7ish years older than me (most of them +- 3-4 years to me).

At this point, I don't have many friends and I don't want many friends. I'm quite the introvert, and don't enjoy high exposure to socializing. A small amount of socializing lasts me quite a long time.


I can't stop laughing at this point because you are supporting damn near every single stereotype made about millennials hahaha this is downright hilarious... And remember, this is coming from a fellow millennial. --- And "old ****s" don't hate the tool; they hate the negative effects and consequences that result from over-usage of the tool... I can completely see where the "old ****s" are coming from, now that I have 'lived it'... Hopefully Gen Z-ers can learn from the mistakes that the millennials are making...


Cool. Whatever floats your boat. You seem to really love money... I like having enough money to survive, mind you, but I find that the 2 F's (Family and Faith) are much more important than money. That's another thing that can have negative effects on people's personalities, and like social media, is another thing that I want to avoid "over-exposure" to...

Especially when I can clearly see (as evidenced here) how both social media and money have affected your personality...
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I have a lot of clients in two states, that I have a team of agents servicing for me, every sale they make I get 20 percent. I also get something called renewals, which is the same commission every year the policy holder keeps their policies with my company. And then I am required to make 40k in commission off new sales every year.

So for 2 months of the year, I sell new business. The other ten I live in Canada, being a stay at home dad.

I can love money, hate boomers, and still raise my kid myself.

I started as life insurance salesman door to door, btw way. Using nothing but my skills at socializing with boomers. Working on 100 percent commission.

The only thing that has affected my personality, is dealing with ****ing boomers for years. Because only social media platform I have is facebook, for my boomer clients. So I can like their semi racist bull**** memes.

This is probably the closest thing to social media I actively partake in.

I do talk to people online constantly, but that's through messengers like discord and skype.

So, fail on your part. I still call bull**** on your sob story, because it's basically quoting bunk science propaganda put out by right wing bull**** artists looking to discredit the younger generation as socially dysfunctional. Which makes it easier to dismiss their correct arguments when your putting up bull****.

I also have a book I wrote on Amazon about Relationship selling, how to build trust in sales situations. It's popular in India.
 
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Skeptic Bob said:
I can’t imagine that growing up with social media is a net positive for mental health. When you grow up in an environment when you are constantly aware of the worst things going on in the world that has to have a negative impact on one’s outlook. When most of us were growing up you would maybe tune in for an hour of news each evening but rest of your day you just lived your life. But now it is just a constant stream of bad news every waking hour, fed straight to you via your smart phone.
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You also have a constant stream of all the good. Depending on where you look. And there is a lot more good in the world. It's hard for older people to see it, because they are trapped in these little bubbles of information that is chosen for them.

You see it as a mental disadvantage because you expect only the information you are receiving to be the dominant type.

Where as, I can use it to show my kids all the helpers in the world. Just like Mr. Rogers taught me when I was a kid. When bad happens in the world look for the helpers, and you will see the good in the world far outweighs the bad.

Present that mindset to your kids, and they will be just fine.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
You also have a constant stream of all the good. Depending on where you look. And there is a lot more good in the world. It's hard for older people to see it, because they are trapped in these little bubbles of information that is chosen for them.

You see it as a mental disadvantage because you expect only the information you are receiving to be the dominant type.

Where as, I can use it to show my kids all the helpers in the world. Just like Mr. Rogers taught me when I was a kid. When bad happens in the world look for the helpers, and you will see the good in the world far outweighs the bad.

Present that mindset to your kids, and they will be just fine.
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That is true, but it is also human nature to pay the most attention to the bad. And that makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. Address the bad first and you are more likely to survive. But in modern times it isn’t as productive.
 
MACS-24 said:
Are you (and they) saying the kids of the 1960's didn't have stress? over-prescribing more like it than cupcakes :)
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Don't know about stress but I could have a case of smart-ass and was prescribed an ass whuppen with a belt or switch:((my choice)and never made the same mistake twice.;)
 
OlNate said:
Arg, Renae, you know I love you, but you make it hard when discount the problems and issues of others, simply because they are not yours. Mental illness is on the rise in pretty much every demographic. It's a real problem, and saying things like "generation cupcake" isn't helping.
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And it will keep going until Doctors stop prescribing anti depressant this and that and at the same time in case one dosen't work.
Sometimes you end up with dumb downed kids that can function other times you end up with nut jobs. Generation cupcake may be apt but it also has kinda of a Utopian ring.
Out to lunch on it Renae.;)
 
Renae said:
Those were examples of irrational fears, the fear of school shooting is politically pushed.
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I grew up being afraid of a school shooting, and having drills. You may not understand that because your age, but it's a real fear to most kids today.

Also, just saying the fear is about politics is wrong. The fear is just fear, and such fears are rooted in our instinct to survive. We all want to survive. The political angle of this, is what solution to gun violence we choose and promote, because there is a right wing and left debate on how to best address school shootings.
 
SheWolf said:
I grew up being afraid of a school shooting, and having drills. You may not understand that because your age, but it's a real fear to most kids today.

Also, just saying the fear is about politics is wrong. The fear is just fear, and such fears are rooted in our instinct to survive. We all want to survive. The political angle of this, is what solution to gun violence we choose and promote, because there is a right wing and left debate on how to best address school shootings.
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In the last twenty years, 36 K-12 students have been killed in a mass shooting in a K-12 school by a shooter using an "assault weapon". Just over 100 from all homicides with all firearms. In that same period, 28,000 K-12 students have died in car wrecks. Over 4000 have died from being hit by a car while walking. Over 12,000 have hanged themselves. Almost 4000 have died in house fires. 2500 killed while riding their bikes.

If kids are afraid of school shootings, they've had a huge disservice rendered to them with regards to probability and statistics. That's the fault of their parents, their teachers and the media.
 
Rucker61 said:
In the last twenty years, 36 K-12 students have been killed in a mass shooting in a K-12 school by a shooter using an "assault weapon". Just over 100 from all homicides with all firearms. In that same period, 28,000 K-12 students have died in car wrecks. Over 4000 have died from being hit by a car while walking. Over 12,000 have hanged themselves. Almost 4000 have died in house fires. 2500 killed while riding their bikes.

If kids are afraid of school shootings, they've had a huge disservice rendered to them with regards to probability and statistics. That's the fault of their parents, their teachers and the media.
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As I said, it's a common fear of parents and kids today. Maybe you don't understand... :shrug: ... but we can't help but think of it..
 
ThoughtEx. said:
I rate my interactions with those people, I can love a person and think they are boring.

I'm supposed to be sorry about that? No thanks, I got **** to do. I don't worry about someone elses insecurities and need for validation.
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So you love and ignore boring people. Makes perfect sense.:mrgreen:
 
SheWolf said:
As I said, it's a common fear of parents and kids today. Maybe you don't understand... :shrug: ... but we can't help but think of it..
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I worried about my father dying with an F-4 strapped to his back. I worried about car wrecks, I worried about why I was different. I flew a lot as a kid, never worried.
 
SheWolf said:
As I said, it's a common fear of parents and kids today. Maybe you don't understand... :shrug: ... but we can't help but think of it..
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I'm a parent, with sons in high school and middle school. Fortunately they're both math literate and are not afraid of school shootings.
 
=SheWolf;1069235876]I grew up being afraid of a school shooting, and having drills. You may not understand that because your age, but it's a real fear to most kids today.
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After 9/11 how many people were nervous or afraid of flying? Same with school shootings etc. That is all the news is for days on end. Pound in that fear. And a very big part of it is politicians. As the saying goes and I saw it on DP very recently"if it bleeds it leads" which is truth.
Also, just saying the fear is about politics is wrong. The fear is just fear, and such fears are rooted in our instinct to survive. We all want to survive. The political angle of this, is what solution to gun violence we choose and promote, because there is a right wing and left debate on how to best address school shootings.
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Politically fueled fear. Yeah fear is just fear and that is where politicians come in and whip and gin it up. Next thing you know you have a Hogg herd screaming to give up their rights.
Bought and paid for by Bloomberg and cronies. They've kinda petered out.
 
MACS-24 said:
Are you (and they) saying the kids of the 1960's didn't have stress? over-prescribing more like it than cupcakes :)
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Psychoquackery has always been a problem, but these drugs they are prescribing DO have the side effects of causing schizophrenic behavior coupled with suicidal and homicidal behavior as withdrawal symptoms.
I think these psychoquacks have a lot to answer for.
 
Renae said:
I worried about my father dying with an F-4 strapped to his back. I worried about car wrecks, I worried about why I was different. I flew a lot as a kid, never worried.
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Well, I am not upset about that and calling you a cupcake. The fact is, I do worry about my niece's, and I wish I didn't.
 
Rucker61 said:
I'm a parent, with sons in high school and middle school. Fortunately they're both math literate and are not afraid of school shootings.
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Yes, well, I am an accountant and very math literate. There was a deadly school shooting in my community this year. There was a shooting in a grocery store near my sister's house, also in the national news. I think about shootings more often than I should. I think about the possibility when I am a movie cinema, in a busy mall, etc. I just can't help it... :shrug:

Have you ever really asked your kids about their feelings, or are just making assumptions?
 
bearpoker said:
Yea, they should just stick with keggers. Get drunk and assault people, then black out and forget about it.
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Or do like Michael Brown did - get high and attack an armed police officer.
 
SheWolf said:
Yes, well, I am an accountant and very math literate. There was a deadly school shooting in my community this year. There was a shooting in a grocery store near my sister's house, also in the national news. I think about shootings more often than I should. I think about the possibility when I am a movie cinema, in a busy mall, etc. I just can't help it... :shrug:
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Likely you do. Since 1999 there have been just over 100 K-12 students murdered by someone with a gun at school. That's will 130,000 K-12 schools meeting 180 days per year. Since 1999, there have been 28,000 school age kids killed in car wrecks. You and your children are more at risk when you get in the car to drive to school, to the theater, to the mall, etc.

Have you ever really asked your kids about their feelings, or are just making assumptions?
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We talked. I wouldn't presume to guess the feelings of teenagers.
 
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