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School shooting averted, thanks Kentucky police

Nap said:
Let's say you were running for office, the NRA hears your rhetoric and realizes that you are pro-2a and starts making ads to help get you elected since you won't take contributions from them. What do you do?
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I make ads explaining why I support the second amendment, but not this lobbying group. It would be a nice slap in the face without actually pissing off potential second-amendment-supporting members. I would absolutely love to support the second amendment while showing the NRA for what they really are; a for-profit lobbying firm that places the manufacture and sale of weapons above the will of the people.

My issue with much of the campaign finance reform is that there isn't really anything that can be done.
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Yes there is. Overturning Citizens United, for one. For now, I'll settle with supporting candidates that don't take Pac-money. The mid-terms are going to be very interesting in this regard. The MSM has already declared the progressive movement to be defunct because we've lost some, but I'm wondering how many of those who've won their primaries, will win the general.

Where voting will not avail us, we protest. If we are to take back our representation then we must really drive in the screws and make life as ****ing uncomfortable as possible for those in power. That is the duty of a free-loving, democracy-loving society.

It will be very difficult to reform our government into a 'for the people, by the people' state, but not impossible, and not the job of cowards or quitters.

Yes, I'm slightly insane, just to get that out of the way.
 
DH Kirkwood said:
I make ads explaining why I support the second amendment, but not this lobbying group. It would be a nice slap in the face without actually pissing off potential second-amendment-supporting members. I would absolutely love to support the second amendment while showing the NRA for what they really are; a for-profit lobbying firm that places the manufacture and sale of weapons above the will of the people.



Yes there is. Overturning Citizens United, for one. For now, I'll settle with supporting candidates that don't take Pac-money. The mid-terms are going to be very interesting in this regard. The MSM has already declared the progressive movement to be defunct because we've lost some, but I'm wondering how many of those who've won their primaries, will win the general.
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The problem with overturning Citizens United is that it's a SCOTUS case, not just a law. Also, the decision was based upon the long-held concept of virtual personhood for corporations. Corporations are incorporated at the state level, so you'd have to change every state law. The main problem that would arise is that no one could sue a corporation any more - you'd have to sue each of the stockholders. Corporations wouldn't pay taxes - each of the stockholders would be responsible for paying his/her share. They'd also be financially and legally liable for all of the actions of the corporation.

And we have a conservative Court to deal with.

Where voting will not avail us, we protest. If we are to take back our representation then we must really drive in the screws and make life as ****ing uncomfortable as possible for those in power. That is the duty of a free-loving, democracy-loving society.

It will be very difficult to reform our government into a 'for the people, by the people' state, but not impossible, and not the job of cowards or quitters.

Yes, I'm slightly insane, just to get that out of the way.
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Have fun at the protests. Drink lots of water.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Stop acting like you’re a victim. In your first post directed to me you called me a liar. Where I come from that isn’t being civil.
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Punishing the law abiding citizen because of the crimes of a mass murderer is not civil either.
 
noonereal said:
Isn't the point that it is legal implied? isn't it obvious that it should not be? Isn't it obvious the NRA causes the problem buy buying politicians?
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The 2nd amendment existed long before the NRA! :lamo
 
Nap said:
The NRA doesn't "buy" politicians, they support candidates that agree with them on the importance of the 2nd amendment. Do you think planned parenthood and Unions buy politicians or do they merely support candidates that are pro-abortion or labor?
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Planned parenthood spends more money on politicians than the NRA ever could hope to dream about.
 
RileyCoyote said:
The democrats are the party of the KKK, Jim Crow, against civil right act of 1964....own it, sorry the truth hurts your feelings.
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Cisero said:
jesus christ people, tone it down a notch.
You're all so intense.

Eat a snickers or something.
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Sorry dude, He's actually right about this. The record speaks for itself.
 
noonereal said:
and it was becoming obsolete by 1871 which is what gave birth to the NRA,
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Nothing about the Constitution of the United States is obsolete. Why do you want to overthrow the United States?
 
Into the Night said:
Nothing about the Constitution of the United States is obsolete. Why do you want to overthrow the United States?
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LOL, I just "got" your avatar... I guess it was this post that finally made me realize... Bird Brain... cleaver
 
Into the Night said:
Punishing the law abiding citizen because of the crimes of a mass murderer is not civil either.
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:lamo punishing :lamo

Into the Night said:
Planned parenthood spends more money on politicians than the NRA ever could hope to dream about.
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Dream on.

Planned Parenthood 2018 lobbying expenditures - $1,086,894
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000591
National Rifle Association 2018 lobbying expenditures- $4,186,000
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000082&year=2018
 
Into the Night said:
I accept your figures for now. This is good news. It means more people are willing to support the NRA than Planned Parenthood.
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Not my figures and your acceptance of them is irrelevant to me. Truth and facts = Good. Hyperbole and lies = Bad.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Not my figures and your acceptance of them is irrelevant to me. Truth and facts = Good. Hyperbole and lies = Bad.
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They are your figures. You used them. Since it is all irrelevant to you, you have denied your own argument. We are done here. I'll consider your use of these figures revoked.
 
Into the Night said:
They are your figures. You used them. Since it is all irrelevant to you, you have denied your own argument. We are done here. I'll consider your use of these figures revoked.
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English must be a secondary language for you.

Because I cited information using opensecrets.org doesn’t make that information mine (although I do stand by it) anymore than, when earlier, I referenced the U.S. Constitution, I could not take credit for that masterpiece. Saying otherwise is plain stupid. And I didn’t say “it is all irrelevant”, just your acceptance of the reference I cited.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
English must be a secondary language for you.

Because I cited information using opensecrets.org doesn’t make that information mine (although I do stand by it) anymore than, when earlier, I referenced the U.S. Constitution, I could not take credit for that masterpiece. Saying otherwise is plain stupid. And I didn’t say “it is all irrelevant”, just your acceptance of the reference I cited.
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You seem to have great difficulty with it. You keep denying your own arguments. Done here.
 
Rich2018 said:
Does KY law prevent him buying a gun or guns at a gun show ?
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if he is under indictment or has a felony, then he is subject to generally at least five years in prison if he is caught with a firearm
 
Rich2018 said:
So he can still get a gun. Albeit own it illegally.


Yes there is a gun show loophole.
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that's like saying there is a crack cocaine loophole because people still are able to buy it.
 
Rich2018 said:
Does KY law prevent him buying a gun or guns at a gun show ?
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If a law actually prevented behavior, there wouldn't be punishment associated with breaking it.
 
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