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Support for banning assault weapons slides in months since Parkland shooting

dogboy49

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Support for banning assault weapons slides in months since Parkland shooting - Sun Sentinel

Key differences
-- Men: September: 49 percent support, 36 percent oppose. February: 66 percent support, 28 percent oppose.
-- Women: September: 52 percent support, 25 percent oppose. February: 72 percent support, 18 percent oppose.
-- Democrats: September: 65 percent support, 20 percent oppose. February: 82 percent support, 13 percent oppose.
-- Republicans: September: 39 percent support, 41 percent oppose. February: 57 percent support, 35 percent oppose.
-- Independents: September: 47 percent support, 29 percent oppose. February: 68 percent support, 21 percent oppose.
-- People who approve of Trump performance: September: 35 percent support, 46 percent oppose. February: 49 percent support, 43 percent oppose.
-- People who disapprove of Trump performance: September: 69 percent support, 19 percent oppose. February: 87 percent support, 9 percent oppose.
-- Age 55-74: September: 56 percent support, 27 percent oppose. February: 76 percent support, 20 percent oppose. (The numbers of respondents for other age breakdowns aren’t large enough to make meaningful comparisons.)
-- White voters: September 54 percent support, 30 percent oppose. February: 73 percent support, 20 percent oppose. (The sample sizes for black, Hispanic and Asian voters aren’t large enough to make meaningful comparisons.)
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In the days following Parkland, amidst the enormous anti-gun fervor which then existed within Florida, Florida legislature found itself unable to pass a ban that outlawed so-called "assault weapons".
 
Its okay. When the next mass slaughter happens, the numbers will again shift upwards for support.

And there is always a new mass gun slaughter.
 
haymarket said:
Its okay. When the next mass slaughter happens, the numbers will again shift upwards for support.

And there is always a new mass gun slaughter.
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So basically you're hoping for another mass shooting so that way your side will gain support? Even if you're not hoping for another mass shooting, as history shows us, your side doesn't keep their numbers for long. It's only a matter of time before the hysteria fades and the voices of reason prevail. That's why you can't keep the numbers.
 
dogboy49 said:
Support for banning assault weapons slides in months since Parkland shooting - Sun Sentinel



In the days following Parkland, amidst the enormous anti-gun fervor which then existed within Florida, Florida legislature found itself unable to pass a ban that outlawed so-called "assault weapons".
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The opinions of useful idiots depend solely on the level of exposure to any issue that is presented by the multimedia echo chamber.

In other words...most people don't think for themselves. They let the media do their thinking for them. So when the media reduces their coverage of a particular issue...assault weapons, in this case...less people think about the issue. Support goes down.

So yeah...haymarket is correct.
 
haymarket said:
yeah - I know brutal reality being expressed without any bull to sugar coat it hits some folks hard.

It was suppose to.
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Ok, so you meant it. Noted.

That you depend on school shootings to happen in order to further the aims of getting guns banned is quite despicable.
 
Mycroft said:
The opinions of useful idiots depend solely on the level of exposure to any issue that is presented by the multimedia echo chamber.

In other words...most people don't think for themselves. They let the media do their thinking for them. So when the media reduces their coverage of a particular issue...assault weapons, in this case...less people think about the issue. Support goes down.

So yeah...haymarket is correct.
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If haymarket hadn't said "Its okay." I would have agreed with him as what you said here is correct. Which makes the rest of his post correct. However he apparently actually depends on the fact that there will be another school shooting, which will then bring up the numbers in his political favor so that there's a chance that those dreaded guns will be banned. It's despicable.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If haymarket hadn't said "Its okay." I would have agreed with him as what you said here is correct. Which makes the rest of his post correct. However he apparently actually depends on the fact that there will be another school shooting, which will then bring up the numbers in his political favor so that there's a chance that those dreaded guns will be banned. It's despicable.
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I didn't see him say he wanted the numbers to go back up or that he wanted another shooting so they would go back up.

When he said, "It's okay", I took that as him reassuring the OP. Telling the OP that another shooting will happen (I agree) and that when it does, the numbers will go back up (again, I agree).

Heck, I said pretty much the same thing...just in a different way.
 
Mycroft said:
I didn't see him say he wanted the numbers to go back up or that he wanted another shooting so they would go back up.

When he said, "It's okay", I took that as him reassuring the OP. Telling the OP that another shooting will happen (I agree) and that when it does, the numbers will go back up (again, I agree).

Heck, I said pretty much the same thing...just in a different way.
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It's that "reassuring" bit that shows that he doesn't mind if another school shooting happens so that the numbers will go up for his political side again. Like I said, I'd have no problem with what he said if he had just left out that "Its okay." remark.
 
Kal'Stang said:
It's that "reassuring" bit that shows that he doesn't mind if another school shooting happens so that the numbers will go up for his political side again. Like I said, I'd have no problem with what he said if he had just left out that "Its okay." remark.
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When haymarket says, specifically, that he doesn't mind if another school shooting happens I'll agree with you. I didn't see him say that.
 
dogboy49 said:
Support for banning assault weapons slides in months since Parkland shooting - Sun Sentinel

In the days following Parkland, amidst the enormous anti-gun fervor which then existed within Florida, Florida legislature found itself unable to pass a ban that outlawed so-called "assault weapons".
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These trends are always problematic, each mass shooting that makes the news impacts the polling numbers but only for so long. Politically there is rarely enough movement or condition to capitalize on the pulse of the nation usually alarmed by the most recent mass shooting.

That said our real issue is implication of this thinking, and it can be a question... why do we think banning assault weapons ends mass shootings?

The logic behind the question speaks to motivations and means, assault weapons are not the only means to harm many people in a relatively short time frame. So the question ends up being if we outlaw one of the means to do this, "assault weapons," does that do anything to motivation? Logic says no, but assault weapon bans are not about logic but the emotional response from loss of life to blame the means without thinking much about the motivation.
 
Maccabee said:
So basically you're hoping for another mass shooting so that way your side will gain support? Even if you're not hoping for another mass shooting, as history shows us, your side doesn't keep their numbers for long. It's only a matter of time before the hysteria fades and the voices of reason prevail. That's why you can't keep the numbers.
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Just accepting the ugly reality for what it is.
 
Mycroft said:
When haymarket says, specifically, that he doesn't mind if another school shooting happens I'll agree with you. I didn't see him say that.
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Thank you for that. It is appreciated.
 
dogboy49 said:
Support for banning assault weapons slides in months since Parkland shooting - Sun Sentinel



In the days following Parkland, amidst the enormous anti-gun fervor which then existed within Florida, Florida legislature found itself unable to pass a ban that outlawed so-called "assault weapons".
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I am pretty sure that is because the term "assault weapon" is so utterly vague that it can encompass the vast majority of weapons in circulation. For people who actually know more about guns than what they have seen in a Rambo film, actual "assault weapons," i.e., rifles that are capable of being switched from semi-automatic fire to fully-automatic fire are already banned for private use. But many people who are anti-private gun ownership are happy to use the vagary of the scary term "assault weapon" to encompass weapons that merely look like military grade assault rifles, like the AR-15 even though they operate differently.
 
haymarket said:
Its okay. When the next mass slaughter happens, the numbers will again shift upwards for support.

And there is always a new mass gun slaughter.
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Yes, even if a shotgun or revolver is used, banners really don't care, their only goal is to get the ARs first, then go for the rest later.
 
haymarket said:
Its okay. When the next mass slaughter happens, the numbers will again shift upwards for support.

And there is always a new mass gun slaughter.
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Where is the support to ban handguns and shotguns?
 
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