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Virginia County Approves Plan To Arm Teachers

I'll bet a few teachers at Sandy Hook wish they would have had the means to stop that asshole.

Anti gun nuts could care less though.
 
The problem is no one owns that money in the bank. The bank is protecting their interests.

arming a teacher on the cheap is not the best option for my child. If you want professionals with firearms protecting kids...then hire and fund them.




I will say it again. I am for a program that allows the teachers who want to be armed to do so but it would require very specific training, qualifications and yearly re-qualifying.
 
It will be interesting to see how this plays out abd if any other sorounding schools follow this example.
 
and we go back to my question. Do you think I or anyone wants to simply hand teachers guns?


I am for, just to be clear, a program that allows teachers who want to be armed to do so under certain very specific tranining and qualification minimums with yearly re-quals.

In a slightly hyperbolic way, yes I do think so. You think that training is all it requires, when you aren't giving a bit of concern to the relationship between a teacher, administrator, or staff member and a student. Likewise, you folks care not one iota about how school discipline procedures and systemic outcomes will or even may interact with a new tool--a very deadly one at that.

Again, staff are not given training, let alone adequate training into the student populations that are most likely to get into a physical altercation with school staff, how to properly measure risk (instead of gutting it), how to de-escalate, how to not traumatize students while disciplining them, how not to physically touch them, how not to restrict their movement or breathing, how to keep them alive, and even how and why to document those altercations.

Look, man, we got kids that annoy teachers and staff and they lock these kids in closets, physically restrain them, or do potentially lethal prone restraints. Then they never tell anyone they did it. So the kid comes home and displays plenty of symptoms of a stress disorder (night terrors, sweats, fight or flight responses to their parent's car starting up in the morning, etc) as well as unexplained bruises or broken bones. There are a number of episodes when school staff actually engage in sadistic behavior, because they can literally gain satisfaction from doing these things to some of these kids.

We had school administrator organizations said it needed to be a local decision (I.e. the school or teacher's discretion) whether or not to cut off a kid's breathing. I've heard way too many conversations about how staff are felt justified in doing these things to kids because the staff said they felt "scared" or "endangered."

A kid I work with was nearly killed by his assistant principal and there was no paperwork of the incident, no contact with parents at all. The kid had to say something before they started to fess up. All because the kid was acting weird and didn't verbally respond to the assistant principal.

So no, I'm not particularly interested in having to have a colleague of mine in another state worry whether or not a school's fear of a kid would escalate beyond the crap that they already have to deal with.

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In a slightly hyperbolic way, yes I do think so. You think that training is all it requires, when you aren't giving a bit of concern to the relationship between a teacher, administrator, or staff member and a student. Likewise, you folks care not one iota about how school discipline procedures and systemic outcomes will or even may interact with a new tool--a very deadly one at that.

Again, staff are not given training, let alone adequate training into the student populations that are most likely to get into a physical altercation with school staff, how to properly measure risk (instead of gutting it), how to de-escalate, how to not traumatize students while disciplining them, how not to physically touch them, how not to restrict their movement or breathing, how to keep them alive, and even how and why to document those altercations.

Look, man, we got kids that annoy teachers and staff and they lock these kids in closets, physically restrain them, or do potentially lethal prone restraints. Then they never tell anyone they did it. So the kid comes home and displays plenty of symptoms of a stress disorder (night terrors, sweats, fight or flight responses to their parent's car starting up in the morning, etc) as well as unexplained bruises or broken bones. There are a number of episodes when school staff actually engage in sadistic behavior, because they can literally gain satisfaction from doing these things to some of these kids.

We had school administrator organizations said it needed to be a local decision (I.e. the school or teacher's discretion) whether or not to cut off a kid's breathing. I've heard way too many conversations about how staff are felt justified in doing these things to kids because the staff said they felt "scared" or "endangered."

So no, I'm not particularly interested in having to have a colleague of mine in another state worry whether or not a school's fear of a kid would escalate beyond the crap that they already have to deal with.

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I don't get why you think teachers would use guns to break up a fight,.
 
I will say it again. I am for a program that allows the teachers who want to be armed to do so but it would require very specific training, qualifications and yearly re-qualifying.

Not near good enough for my kid
 
Sometimes questions are so dumb you have to wonder.......

I am sorry you feel that way.

Teachers have not been allowed to be armed in such a number that you could even ask this question.

What is wrong with asking for examples however limited they may be? Otherwise this whole matter is speculation.
 
I am sorry you feel that way.



What is wrong with asking for examples however limited they may be? Otherwise this whole matter is speculation.




because it doesn't exist. why, let me ask you, would you not be for something because there is no evidence that it wouldn't work?
 
I will say it again. I am for a program that allows the teachers who want to be armed to do so but it would require very specific training, qualifications and yearly re-qualifying.

Seems like a well thought out position that will be ignored and dismissed by the usual suspects.
 
Seems like a well thought out position that will be ignored and dismissed by the usual suspects.

Let the president be guarded by such trained people
 
Can you provide any documented examples of armed teachers stopping shooters in progress?

Can you provide any documented examples of a school shooting happening in a school that had armed teachers and staff?
 
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