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Virginia County Approves Plan To Arm Teachers

Fiddytree said:
That's exactly what I am telling you. I am also telling you a student will potentially shoot staff and other students.

The fact that you're laughing at this tells me you're not very experienced with how my population of youth can be treated by professionals or the other way around.

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this is straight up hoplophobia. I really don't no how to retort other than to point you in the direction and go find out how often it's CCW holders shooting people.... (hint it's not its usually democrats shooting each other with illegal guns).
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
this is straight up hoplophobia. I really don't no how to retort other than to point you in the direction and go find out how often it's CCW holders shooting people.... (hint it's not its usually democrats shooting each other with illegal guns).
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This is why having these conversations in the gun control subforum is stupid. It's not hoplophobia. I'm pretty damned lax on gun control laws. I don't have much interest in them. I don't think Democrats or liberals were right to go after gun control after Parkland or Sandy Hook.

I'm more concerned about the serious, deadly flaws that already exist in our school systems getting worse.

This is an education reform issue for me, not guns, not CCW.

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Fiddytree said:
This is why having these conversations in the gun control subforum is stupid. It's not hoplophobia. I'm pretty damned lax on gun control laws. I don't have much interest in them. I don't think Democrats or liberals were right to go after gun control after Parkland or Sandy Hook.

I'm more concerned about the serious, deadly flaws that already exist in our school systems getting worse.

This is an education reform issue for me, not guns, not CCW.

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And the point suddenly shifts. are we conceding the prior point now?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
And the point suddenly shifts. are we conceding the prior point now?
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Good lord there is no shifting. If you gun hobbyists could look past your hobby for a minute you would see I am not focused on the guns, I am focused on under what circumstances and who should interact with students while carrying firearns, because of existing trends in school discipline procedures and who those impact.

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Fiddytree said:
Good lord there is no shifting. If you gun hobbyists could look past your hobby for a minute you would see I am not focused on the guns, I am focused on under what circumstances and who should interact with students while carrying firearms.

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A gun is a tool. Do the armed guards at football games shoot anyone? at jewelery stores? Bannks? armored car guys?


Seriously we protect materialistic bull**** with guns but suddenly it's unthinkable to do the same with our kids?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
A gun is a tool. Do the armed guards at football games shoot anyone? at jewelery stores? Bannks? armored car guys?


Seriously we protect materialistic bull**** with guns but suddenly it's unthinkable to do the same with our kids?
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We agree a gun is a tool. Do you want me to explain how staff use other tools against students and can kill them?

Focus gun horse, focus.

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Fiddytree said:
We agree a gun is a tool. Do you want me to explain how staff use other tools against students and can kill them?

Focus gun horse, focus.

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So you are saying teachers are less trustworthy with tools than cops.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So you are saying teachers are less trustworthy with tools than cops.
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Under certain situations? Yes, absolutely. Likewise, I do not believe cops should be armed with certain tools (for example: enforcing school policies) just because they are placed in a school. Why? Because they aren't trustworthy or trained to implement them properly.

It's about the relationship and what tool is most appropriate for that individual to use and under what circumstances.

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Fiddytree said:
Under certain situations? Yes, absolutely. Likewise, I do not believe cops should be armed with certain tools (for example: enforcing school policies) just because they are placed in a school. Why? Because they aren't trustworthy or trained to implement them properly.

It's about the relationship and what tool is most appropriate for that individual to use and under what circumstances.

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and we go back to my question. Do you think I or anyone wants to simply hand teachers guns?


I am for, just to be clear, a program that allows teachers who want to be armed to do so under certain very specific tranining and qualification minimums with yearly re-quals.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
well then I am glad with your mindset you managed not to shoot anyone.
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You don't think the military should shoot anyone? Man you have weird ideas! I was trained to shoot people
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
A gun is a tool. Do the armed guards at football games shoot anyone? at jewelery stores? Bannks? armored car guys?


Seriously we protect materialistic bull**** with guns but suddenly it's unthinkable to do the same with our kids?
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You must be a big fan of the Kinderguardians program
 
vegas giants said:
You train a teacher fulltime for a year and he can carry a gun in school
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So you think we need to train teachers 8 hours a day for a year to be qualified?


We don't even do that for the Marines....


Hoplophobia is strong with this one.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So you think we need to train teachers 8 hours a day for a year to be qualified?


We don't even do that for the Marines....


Hoplophobia is strong with this one.
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Let me know when you start posting Marines in classrooms. LOL
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
A gun is a tool. Do the armed guards at football games shoot anyone? at jewelery stores? Bannks? armored car guys?


Seriously we protect materialistic bull**** with guns but suddenly it's unthinkable to do the same with our kids?
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The problem is no one owns that money in the bank. The bank is protecting their interests.

arming a teacher on the cheap is not the best option for my child. If you want professionals with firearms protecting kids...then hire and fund them.
 
1750Texan said:
The problem is no one owns that money in the bank. The bank is protecting their interests.

arming a teacher on the cheap is not the best option for my child. If you want professionals with firearms protecting kids...then hire them.
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Exactly....
 
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