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Guns In The Home And Children

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Some people say some really stupid stuff when they talk about keeping guns in the house if you've got children, or if children ever come to visit. Well its simple, keep the guns in places where children can't get to them and whenever there are children in your house, keep an eye on them. When I was a child my parents didn't keep any guns in the house but I was sometimes at friend's houses whose parents had guns and there was never any problem. Keeping guns in the house when there's children is no different than keeping anything else in the house you wouldn't want children to get ahold of such as medicine.
 
While it's important to safeguard guns when children are around, it's also vitally important to teach all children what to do if they come upon a gun somewhere else.
 
We don't hide the stove or electrical appliances.

House hold items kill kids everyday. Hiding guns is futile.
 
HowardBThiname said:
While it's important to safeguard guns when children are around, it's also vitally important to teach all children what to do if they come upon a gun somewhere else.
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When I was in the 6th grade, we had a gun safety done in one of my classes. Today, your not allowed to bring a firearm and shells to load into a shotgun. Or, taking two weeks off if your parent wants to take you for dear season and only counted as one day missed.

Nobody can control human nature, and you can pass as many laws as you want with firearms: only having more people violate the laws.
 
1750Texan said:
We don't hide the stove or electrical appliances.

House hold items kill kids everyday. Hiding guns is futile.
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They are fine if they are three or older. I mean they don't call them terrible twos for nothing
 
DebateChallenge said:
Some people say some really stupid stuff when they talk about keeping guns in the house if you've got children, or if children ever come to visit. Well its simple, keep the guns in places where children can't get to them and whenever there are children in your house, keep an eye on them. When I was a child my parents didn't keep any guns in the house but I was sometimes at friend's houses whose parents had guns and there was never any problem. Keeping guns in the house when there's children is no different than keeping anything else in the house you wouldn't want children to get ahold of such as medicine.
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On the other hand some people talk about their right to kill anyone they perceive to be an intruder and having a loaded gun in a handy position is a necessity for that kind of thinking.

You can lock medicine away to be taken out only when needed. Not so with a gun if you are of the mind that it is your right to kill anyone who steps onto your property. For that you need a loaded gun in a quick and easy place to reach it.


and whenever there are children in your house, keep an eye on them.
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Now this statement made me laugh out loud. Now i know i am dealing with someone who is absolutely clueless about kids or being a parent.
 
HowardBThiname said:
While it's important to safeguard guns when children are around, it's also vitally important to teach all children what to do if they come upon a gun somewhere else.
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True enough.
 
1750Texan said:
We don't hide the stove or electrical appliances.
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No but we do keep an eye on children when they're near such stuff, just as we keep an eye on children whenever they're in the house.
 
One of the many reasons we keep firearms safes in our home.
 
soylentgreen said:
On the other hand some people talk about their right to kill anyone they perceive to be an intruder and having a loaded gun in a handy position is a necessity for that kind of thinking.

You can lock medicine away to be taken out only when needed. Not so with a gun if you are of the mind that it is your right to kill anyone who steps onto your property. For that you need a loaded gun in a quick and easy place to reach it.
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A gun can be kept on your person or they do make special safes for storing defensive firearms that can quickly be opened with the access code but are otherwise very secure.

soylentgreen said:
Now this statement made me laugh out loud. Now i know i am dealing with someone who is absolutely clueless about kids or being a parent.
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Anybody who doesn't keep an eye on their children shouldn't have children. And anybody who doesn't keep an eye on other people's children when they're in their house, such as friends who might bring their children, shouldn't have children in their house. And I know all about kids, I once was one.
 
1750Texan said:
We don't hide the stove or electrical appliances.

House hold items kill kids everyday. Hiding guns is futile.
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It's not so much "hiding them" as it is keeping them "out of reach."

The NRA has an incredibly good program called Eddie Eagle that teaches young children how to react around a gun.

Parents are the first line of defense. While it's true that we don't hide the stove, touching a hot stove will leave a burn -- not blow have a little face off. Bit difference there. And, good parents understand that they don't leave pot handles sticking outward when cooking because little ones can pull scalding liquid over on themselves.

Being a parent means keeping children as safe as possible, and leaving guns laying around is just sheer stupidity. Would you take your child to a park where sexual predators are known to frequent and then leave the child unattended? I don't think so.

Use your brain.
 
DebateChallenge said:
And that program supposedly doesn't work that well with boys.
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I've never heard that before -- do you have a link?

But, even if it's not as successful with little boys, any sort of program that helps any little child to understand that they must not touch a gun they see -- and that they must report the presence of the gun to adults -- is a step in the right direction.
 
I personally think they should be securely locked away in a strong box or cupboard at all times.

That way you can leave your guns laying around anywhere you want; there’s no way the kids are getting out of there to mess with them. :D
 
HowardBThiname said:
I've never heard that before -- do you have a link?
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There is a link somewhere I will find it when I have the time. The fact of the matter is boys play with guns and girls don't.

HowardBThiname said:
But, even if it's not as successful with little boys, any sort of program that helps any little child to understand that they must not touch a gun they see -- and that they must report the presence of the gun to adults -- is a step in the right direction.
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I touched and fired guns as a child, when I was 11 at Boy Scout camp.
 
DebateChallenge said:
There is a link somewhere I will find it when I have the time. The fact of the matter is boys play with guns and girls don't.


I touched and fired guns as a child, when I was 11 at Boy Scout camp.
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When I was in Middle School, the Hunter's Safety Course was mandatory (rural Colorado), and we had plenty of range practice.

It doesn't hurt to have a kid know what shooting a gun feels like -- so they understand the power behind the gun -- but the Eddie Eagle program is geared toward pre-kindergarteners.

Boys may play with guns more, that's true.
 
DebateChallenge said:
A gun can be kept on your person or they do make special safes for storing defensive firearms that can quickly be opened with the access code but are otherwise very secure.


Anybody who doesn't keep an eye on their children shouldn't have children. And anybody who doesn't keep an eye on other people's children when they're in their house, such as friends who might bring their children, shouldn't have children in their house. And I know all about kids, I once was one.
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I am not saying there are not any safe ways but i am saying there is a general attitude which is not consistent with child safety.

No, you have no clue about kids. Even thinking keeping an eye on them is what is important demonstrates that. Parents know it is not what you see but when you cannot hear them that there is a problem. If you had said keep an ear out for kids that would have indicated some knowledge of children.

An no, saying you ere once a kid is like saying you know all about child birth because you were once born.
 
soylentgreen said:
I am not saying there are not any safe ways but i am saying there is a general attitude which is not consistent with child safety.

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Except the facts prove you wrong.


Despite gun sales reaching record numbers in the last two years, accidental gun shootings are at an all-time low, a surprising finding by the National Safety Council.

In its annual "Injury Facts" report, the group put accidental gun deaths in 2015 at 489.
That is the lowest since 1903, when record-keeping began and a 17 percent one-year drop.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gun-safety-best-ever-accidental-deaths-at-new-low-03-of-all-in-2015
 
It wasn't a gun safe per se but my father had a Walther PP the entire time we were growing up, and I didn't know about it until many years later. It was in a locked metal box the entire time.
 
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