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So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297, *567*]

Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

I am as sure as I am for other training that we require. Training is required for lots of things. No one says prove to me it will save lives. Lol

So, what IS this "other training we require"? A few examples, please.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

So, what IS this "other training we require"? A few examples, please.

Are you kidding? You don't know all the other things the states gives out a license for.


Wait.....wait....cue the rights speech. Lol
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

No such data or documentation has ever been required before we set up mandatory training in lots of other areas. That is just silly


The person who gets mouth diahera about asking people to prove their plans work in any other country or state suddenly doesn't seem to see a need in providing any proof whatsoever their plan actually works. That is just silly. Typical fashion you just wasted my time and didn't engage in any meaningful debate. I've wasted enough time on your foolishness and lack of evidence for tonight.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

The person who gets mouth diahera about asking people to prove their plans work in any other country or state suddenly doesn't seem to see a need in providing any proof whatsoever their plan actually works. That is just silly. Typical fashion you just wasted my time and didn't engage in any meaningful debate. I've wasted enough time on your foolishness and lack of evidence for tonight.

I accept your concession
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

And it is none of your business why we want to take your guns.


Yes it is my business why you want to take awar my legally purchased property.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

I accept your concession

It was not offered for you to accept. Nor did you come remotely close to winning or even offering a valid argument. You've offered nothing and are not someone deserving of any respect.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

It was not offered for you to accept. Nor did you come remotely close to winning or even offering a valid argument. You've offered nothing and are not someone deserving of any respect.

Okey dokey. Have a good night
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

It was not offered for you to accept. Nor did you come remotely close to winning or even offering a valid argument. You've offered nothing and are not someone deserving of any respect.

Vegas is a widely admired poster. Please make a note of it.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

Sure it is. Covered under The 4th amendment.

Nah. Eventually we'd have to demonstrate in court a legal justification for our actions (I'm thinking : article 2, "general welfare clause" ), but we never are obliged to tell you of our true motivation.

Don't be a snowflake.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

Nah. Eventually we'd have to demonstrate in court a legal justification for our actions (I'm thinking : article 2, "general welfare clause" ), but we never are obliged to tell you of our true motivation.

Don't be a snowflake.

A snowflake is someone who isn't able to tell someone the reason for taking another's property. They are tearful of it. But you're not able to take mind so no worries.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

Vegas is a widely admired poster. Please make a note of it.
Ok Howard and Vegas equally unimportant made a note of it
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

https://abcnews4.com/news/crime-news/witness-homeowner-killed-during-north-charleston-home-invasion

A sad tragedy. This man was a member of one of those neighborhood chat groups on facebook I'm in. I've never met the man, but his facebook page is filled with right-wing propaganda and just one week before this happened shared a video of Archie Bunker railing on gun control. The details from the article are sparse, but from what I understand at least two men entered his home around 1 in the morning, and this guy tried to play Dirty Harry only to end up getting himself shot and killed. Police believe it was a random event. A couple of thugs were likely looking for a quick score. Trying to grab a laptop a cell phone some loose change laying around. They probably didn't even think the guy was home and would have easily left without incident had he not surprised them and confronted them. This guy was a military vet. He knew how to handle guns. He knew the layout of his home better than the intruders, yet he still lost the fight.

It's obviously sad, but this is the reality you face when you decide you're going to protect your stuff. Obviously, we can't know everything that happened here, but if he stayed out of sight and just yelled at them to leave from another room they probably would have bolted once they realized someone was home. Anything he might have lost would have been covered by homeowners insurance. Instead, he tried to be a hero and lost his life.

So to recap, the odds of having your home broken into are already insanely low. Even if your home is broken into, odds are very low you'll be home. Even if you're home your odds of even getting to your gun aren't good unless you keep it loaded and on your person at all times. If you do that though you're at risk of an accidental shooting that could result in the death of yourself or a loved one. And even if you just happen to be in the right place at the right time with your loaded gun ready to defend yourself you're still starting a shootout inside your home that you could easily lose no matter how good you think you are with your gun.

Your best defense in a home invasion is not a gun. It's a deadbolt, a motion sensor light, a decent sized dog with a loud bark, and an understanding that unless you have specific enemies they are almost certainly not here to kill you.

It may always be better to just let thugs come into your home and do their thing without resistance than to resist and be killed. However, not everyone gets killed when they shoot intruders:

By Plugging a Teenage Intruder, Columnist Carl Rowan may Have Shot Himself in the Foot People, July 04, 1988
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh? [W:297]

In which bizarre universe?


Dukworld, it's Howard's home planet before he was teleported to Earth landing in Cleveland if I remember the movie correctly.
 
Re: So you want to protect your home huh?

Steal? Nope.

Taxation isn't theft either.

So you consider the moral definition of "property" to be wholly subject to the government's authority?
 
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