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Woman Stops Attempted Rape With A Gun

Totally pro gun rights here, but that story seems odd, like some major parts are missing.
 
X Factor said:
Totally pro gun rights here, but that story seems odd, like some major parts are missing.
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It does seem kind of odd. If I'd grabbed a gun in a struggle like that, I don't know if I'd have right grip on it to actually shoot. It's more likely that I'd just club the guy in the head with it. She'd already kneed him in the groin. So kudos for that as well.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Sounds like the gun was the closest object that she could grab... And if she did shoot him, she would be charged w/attempted murder. Not the best argument to be made for pro-gun people.
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Assuming the story is true, did this happen in some retarded state where self defense is not a thing? :lol:
 
X Factor said:
Assuming the story is true, did this happen in some retarded state where self defense is not a thing? :lol:
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Well it takes place in Tennessee. With how defense cases run these days what with Netflix Documentaries and the such. There's a very good chance she would be charged w/attempted murder. He didn't penetrate her, and was scared enough of the gun that he ran away, but a guy like that probably would have been scared of a knife too!
 
I think you will find that guns are used just about every day by private citizens to defend themselves, but you wont see it on the front page of most media sources.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Sounds like the gun was the closest object that she could grab... And if she did shoot him, she would be charged w/attempted murder. Not the best argument to be made for pro-gun people.
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For self defense in a rape? What the hell makes you think that?

Polar Bum said:
I think you will find that guns are used just about every day by private citizens to defend themselves, but you wont see it on the front page of most media sources.
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500k to 3 million times a year according to the CDC.
 
Spartacus FPV said:
For self defense in a rape? What the hell makes you think that?
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If she shot him before he penetrated her, then the defense can easily argue that it wasn't a rape. Even rape cases w/o guns involved don't get high conviction rates.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Well it takes place in Tennessee. With how defense cases run these days what with Netflix Documentaries and the such. There's a very good chance she would be charged w/attempted murder. He didn't penetrate her, and was scared enough of the gun that he ran away, but a guy like that probably would have been scared of a knife too!
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Seems more like something you think should happen than something that actually would.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
If she shot him before he penetrated her, then the defense can easily argue that it wasn't a rape. Even rape cases w/o guns involved don't get high conviction rates.
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The defense would actually be on her side if she's the one accused and you actually don't have to wait for someone to complete whatever crime they have in mind before you can defend yourself. Has something happened in the last, say, 18 months or so that has completely short circuited your ability to reason? :D
 
Polar Bum said:
I think you will find that guns are used just about every day by private citizens to defend themselves, but you wont see it on the front page of most media sources.
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And guns are used every day to kill people. Your point?
 
X Factor said:
Seems more like something you think should happen than something that actually would.
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You do realize that he would likely be charged w/attempted rape too right? I didn't say instead of him being charged. They'd both be charged for crimes they committed. Why is it that hard for you to understand?

In the actual case of the crime, only he committed something. She did not shoot him.
 
X Factor said:
The defense would actually be on her side if she's the one accused and you actually don't have to wait for someone to complete whatever crime they have in mind before you can defend yourself. Has something happened in the last, say, 18 months or so that has completely short circuited your ability to reason? :D
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Are you saying the defense team for the other guy would be on her side??? Because if so, I don't think you know how lawyers work.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Sounds like the gun was the closest object that she could grab... And if she did shoot him, she would be charged w/attempted murder. Not the best argument to be made for pro-gun people.
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Nope. Tennessee has a Castle Doctrine.

She would have acted in self-defense and would likely face no charges at all.

Chalk one up for the good guys here.
 
Aristaeus said:
How many rapes have been committed with the threat of a gun?
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doesn't matter-that's illegal and is severely punished. gun bans or restrictions are many more times likely to disarm victims rather than rapists
 
Aristaeus said:
And guns are used every day to kill people. Your point?
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depends on who gets shot but gun control is far more impacting upon the law abiding
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
You do realize that he would likely be charged w/attempted rape too right? I didn't say instead of him being charged. They'd both be charged for crimes they committed. Why is it that hard for you to understand?

In the actual case of the crime, only he committed something. She did not shoot him.
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You think if she'd shot him while he was attempting to rape her, she would have committed a crime? Maybe I'm just spoiled in Texas. This would be a no brainer even if she'd shot his ass dead, it would be justified under self defense.
 
X Factor said:
The defense would actually be on her side if she's the one accused and you actually don't have to wait for someone to complete whatever crime they have in mind before you can defend yourself. Has something happened in the last, say, 18 months or so that has completely short circuited your ability to reason? :D
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"Hey, could you like rape me first? Then I can go ahead and shoot you. Thanks."
 
TurtleDude said:
depends on who gets shot but gun control is far more impacting upon the law abiding
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Yes it is, it makes them much safer. Compare gun death rates in the US to any developed nation with gun control. As a law abiding person, I'm far less likely to be shot in the UK than the US.
 
TheGoverness said:
"Hey, could you like rape me first? Then I can go ahead and shoot you. Thanks."
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Yes, because up until that point, you're only allowed to ineffectually waive your gun in his general direction. :lol:
 
Aristaeus said:
And guns are used every day to kill people. Your point?
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Point was clearly made in my post.....should I use smaller words for you?
 
HowardBThiname said:
Nope. Tennessee has a Castle Doctrine.

She would have acted in self-defense and would likely face no charges at all.

Chalk one up for the good guys here.
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One would like to think so. However I just read this article: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...erts-tennessees-stand-your-ground-isnt-simple

In fact, legal experts say, Tennessee's laws are so open to interpretation that two people engaged in identical self-defense shootings could be treated very differently by police, prosecutors and the courts.
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But at least she didn't shoot the guy.
 
X Factor said:
You think if she'd shot him while he was attempting to rape her, she would have committed a crime? Maybe I'm just spoiled in Texas. This would be a no brainer even if she'd shot his ass dead, it would be justified under self defense.
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As I said, it depends on the case. It's not so black and white as you might think.
 
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