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Would You Comply?

Would You Comply?

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Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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Yep..
 
Nope. Actually, that's part of the reason I never got a CCW. I don't need one here in AZ and while reciprocity with other states would be nice it doesn't outweigh my concern of a registration/confiscation scheme coming up...even out here.
 
I might be willing to wait for the likely challenge.
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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By "comply", do you mean "buy a canoe"?
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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Yes. If only because it is my duty to comply with the law, even unjust laws, and lobby my congressmen and women to have the law changed back.
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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No.

Of course, that would present a problem if I were stopped by a cop while taking my rifle to the range...if he asked for my proof of registration.
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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Nope. Such a law would be un-Constitutional and as such should be challenged before the courts. Until the Constitution is amended to reflect the legality of such a law, such a law should be challenged in every legal manner possible.
 
Of course I'd comply. I don't get enough PTO to cover jail time for an illegal weapon.
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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Kind of a stupid question since it will never happen.
 
Of course you comply. Unless you want to become a criminal. Good luck with that. The law isn't a pick-and-chose proposition.

I do suspect it would not be enforced until it wound through the courts, so we'd probably be "on hold" until SCOTUS weighs-in.

But there's no such thing as being a part-American. You either support the Constitution and respect the law, or you don't. There's no half-way, about it.
 
In your scenario, has the 2nd Amendment been changed?
 
Lutherf said:
Nope. Actually, that's part of the reason I never got a CCW. I don't need one here in AZ and while reciprocity with other states would be nice it doesn't outweigh my concern of a registration/confiscation scheme coming up...even out here.
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Exactly how do you think that a registry would somehow make confiscation possible?

Firstly, who would go house to house and take the guns? Police Officers? Military? Good luck getting any of them to comply with something like confiscation, other than something like confiscating guns from a mentally deranged person who shouldn't have them. I imagine you'd be better at find a needle in a hay stack than a group of officers or military guys willing to go in to people's homes and confiscate guns.

It just simply wouldn't happen. It's this magical thing that people are so scared of yet isn't possible. That's why every single time anyone has tried to ban any type of gun in this country ever they have written the law to grandfather in existing weapons and the law only affects the gun store's ability to sell that type of weapon. Because trying to go out and get the existing ones, even with a registry, would be a monumental task.

Confiscation is only brought up because the slippery slope is literally the only argument against gun laws. You have to scare people so that they fear the government taking their guns more than they appreciate a good possibility of a reduction in gun violence.
 
Old Trapper said:
Kind of a stupid question since it will never happen.
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Never say never, power distribution will change and all it takes is the right circumstances.
As for the Constitutionality​ of Registration, that would be up to the courts, and as we know the courts can surprise us with their rulings.
 
Chomsky said:
Of course you comply. Unless you want to become a criminal. Good luck with that. The law isn't a pick-and-chose proposition.

I do suspect it would not be enforced until it wound through the courts, so we'd probably be "on hold" until SCOTUS weighs-in.

But there's no such thing as being a part-American. You either support the Constitution and respect the law, or you don't. There's no half-way, about it.
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What about those laws that ban firearms "in common use for lawful purposes" or having "a reasonable relationship to the preservation and efficiency of a well regulated militia"?
 
Old Trapper said:
Kind of a stupid question since it will never happen.
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I am not sure, the history and nature of this debate suggests something has to give.
 
Casper said:
Simple Question:
If the Federal Government made it Law that all Privately owned Firearms must be Registered and you had six months to comply with you comply or not?
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I have a Constitutional right to self defense or just to own a fine hand gun or rifle if I want to. Any law passed by the federal government requiring me to register my firearms would almost certainly be seen as a precursor to confiscation of those firearms. So I would not answer the question.

The individual states might be on surer footing to require registration but still could run into constitutional challenges. I would see that as less dangerous than federal registration, but I think liberty minded Americans would strenuously oppose it.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I have a Constitutional right to self defense or just to own a fine hand gun or rifle if I want to. Any law passed by the federal government requiring me to register my firearms would almost certainly be seen as a precursor to confiscation of those firearms. So I would not answer the question.

The individual states might be on surer footing to require registration but still could run into constitutional challenges. I would see that as less dangerous than federal registration, but I think liberty minded Americans would strenuously oppose it.
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You are registered with the government in a hundred ways. If they want to come and get you they can at any time.

But that is ok with you
 
Rucker61 said:
What about those laws that ban firearms "in common use for lawful purposes" or having "a reasonable relationship to the preservation and efficiency of a well regulated militia"?
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It's obviously for the courts to decide. The Constitution will prevail.

It's clear the OP is tossing out an impossible premise, to get theoretical responses and ideas. We'll never ban guns. But my point is, we do work within the framework of the Constitution & courts. It's what makes us American - adherence to the Constitution.
 
With the exception of a few family heirloom guns, all my guns are already registered. I mean, I guess they are seeing as I filled out the necessary paperwork for the purchases.
 
vegas giants said:
You are registered with the government in a hundred ways. If they want to come and get you they can at any time.

But that is ok with you
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I do not intend to give up my constitutional rights to help them out with that. If that's okay with you.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I do not intend to give up my constitutional rights to help them out with that. If that's okay with you.
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Then don't. Just register your gun if it becomes the law.....or not
 
vegas giants said:
Then don't. Just register your gun if it becomes the law.....or not
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I am not participating in the poll.

But a little factoid for your consideration:

Mass killings of civilians by military dictatorships in the 1900s were more often than not preceded by the confiscation of firearms from targeted populations, a task made easier by laws requiring the registration and/or licensing of privately-owned weapons.​
 
AlbqOwl said:
I am not participating in the poll.

But a little factoid for your consideration:

Mass killings of civilians by military dictatorships in the 1900s were more often than not preceded by the confiscation of firearms from targeted populations, a task made easier by laws requiring the registration and/or licensing of privately-owned weapons.​
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I will let canada and hawaii know what risk they are taking. LOL
 
I have a tendency to ignore laws that I believe to be unethical.
 
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