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So, Did the shooter in Santa Fe, Texas use a shotgun?

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So when an armed teacher blows away an innocent - what will you do about that?

And when an armed teacher is mistaken for a hostile gunman - what do you do about that?
HINT: The one that comes through the classroom door with a gun is probably the bad guy. And if an innocent is shot you take solace in knowing you saved more.
 
Beats me(and don't say: OK!) But I think he has AK visions.

5000 rounds from banana clips fired in mere seconds. WMD.




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Apparently the surveys represent fewer than 2 percent of the nation’s Police officers and appears to have been conducted with a stacked deck that virtually guaranteed a desired result.

While I agree with the representation, what evidence do you have that it was stacked?
 
So when an armed teacher blows away an innocent - what will you do about that?

that can already happen
And when an armed teacher is mistaken for a hostile gunman - what do you do about that?
The same thing we do with cops who accidentally shoot innocent bystanders.
 
that can already happen

The same thing we do with cops who accidentally shoot innocent bystanders.

You did not answer my two questions with any direct answer. I wonder why you would do that?
 
HINT: The one that comes through the classroom door with a gun is probably the bad guy. And if an innocent is shot you take solace in knowing you saved more.

How is killing an innocent "saving anyone"?
 
How is killing an innocent "saving anyone"?

Active shooter enters school, no one fights back, ten are killed, or seventeen are killed, or twenty-six are killed. Or, active shooter enters school, opens fire, fire is returned, shooter is killed, an innocent is accidentally shot and a lesser number than those above are killed.

It's as valid of a scenario as tackling a shooter during a reload. In the times that a citizen has intervened in a active shooter scenario with a gun, how many innocents have been shot by accident? How many innocents have been shot by cops?
 
Some schools don't. And those that don't probably wouldn't find a shortage of teachers volunteering to be armed. I mean extra training and no not walk around with a gun on your hip or laying on the desk or stuck in a desk but concealed on the person and no one knows. So there's no what if's about someone getting a hold of it.

I guess you missed my post a few pages before.
A lot of school districts do not want their teachers to be armed

The school districts in state of Florida are overwhelmingly rejecting the idea of arming some of their teaching staff even though the state has set has passed a bill/program and set aside funds to train teachers who meet certain criteria.

From the following article:


Officials in 10 of the state’s largest systems, which educate nearly 60 percent of all Florida school children, said they have no intention of giving teachers or other staff guns to carry into classrooms.


Read more here: Florida's largest districts may not arm school staff | Miami Herald

Florida's largest districts may not arm school staff | Miami Herald

Even Parkland Florida where 17 students and staff were killed in the February 14, 2018 school school which bought about the new bill/program to train and allow certain teachers to carry in the school are refusing to allow their teachers to carry.

From:

Parkland school district votes against arming teachers

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkland-school-shooting-arming-teachers-vote-today-2018-04-10/
 
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Active shooter enters school, no one fights back, ten are killed, or seventeen are killed, or twenty-six are killed. Or, active shooter enters school, opens fire, fire is returned, shooter is killed, an innocent is accidentally shot and a lesser number than those above are killed.

It's as valid of a scenario as tackling a shooter during a reload. In the times that a citizen has intervened in a active shooter scenario with a gun, how many innocents have been shot by accident? How many innocents have been shot by cops?

If an armed teacher shoots a gun and kills an innocent - what will you do to ease their mental pain that they will live with forever?

What will you do for the innocent whose life was taken wrongly?

If an armed teacher is mistaken for the gunman by a police officer or even another teacher in haste and is killed - what will you do for the family of that dead teacher?
 
While I agree with the representation, what evidence do you have that it was stacked?

The survey was limited to police members who subscribe to the police.one newsletters.

Less than half our nations police ( local , state , federal ) most likely were not even aware of the survey.
 
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HINT: The one that comes through the classroom door with a gun is probably the bad guy. And if an innocent is shot you take solace in knowing you saved more.

You just shot a detective
 
I am going to go out on a limb here, you did not grow up around guns, right?
Have not fired many guns, Hunted, target practice, shot a round of skeet, ect?

Wrong: I grew up around guns and owned my first at 12. I was on a rifle team and have a sharpshooter's medal, and I own three guns now. So, what IF that kid had had an AR15? Can you imagine what would have happened with IT? That's why those things need to be banned. Our country has gotten mean and meaner since 1980 and the gun culture has gotten louder and louder, so copycat incidents with weapons that make statements have become the trend. Errant parents need to be prosecuted so that others will learn to keep their's locked up. This is gonna keep goin too unless we really do something about it; November's on the way...
 
The survey was limited to police members who subscribe to the police.one newsletters.

Less than half our nations police ( local , state , federal ) most likely were not even aware of the survey.

*Correction should have said more than half of our nations likely did not see the survey.
 
So much wrong in such a short sentence. No. A shotgun is not a rifle unless it has rifling. Even then it's still considered a shotgun as pistols also have rifling but they are in a different catagory.

A shotgun is a rifle dude.
 
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