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Democrat Congressman: Force Gun Owners to Surrender Guns.

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Are you sure this guy isn't a secret Trump supporter? It sure as hell sounds like he wants Trump to win in 2020.
 
MrPeanut said:
Are you sure this guy isn't a secret Trump supporter? It sure as hell sounds like he wants Trump to win in 2020.
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You might want to ask him...lol
 
apdst said:
But, they don't want to confiscate our guns.
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There's little I can add to your comment but:


First they came for the "assault weapons", and I did not speak out—
Because I did not own an "assault weapon".
Then they came for the handguns, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not own a handgun.
Then they came for the rifles and I did not speak out—
Because I did not own a rifle
Then they came for the shotguns —and then I learned what "common sense" gun control "for the children" really meant.

(Apologies to Martin Niemöller)
 
MrPeanut said:
Are you sure this guy isn't a secret Trump supporter? It sure as hell sounds like he wants Trump to win in 2020.
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If he pushes this...yeah...Trumps definitely going to win even if Trump is sitting in a jail cell. American's do NOT like this kind of talk. Every time Democrats have even slightly suggested anything remotely like this they have suffered for it around election time.
 
Just one more loony congress-critter. Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif
Something like this is red meat for his district. A great way to raise money.

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apdst said:
But, they don't want to confiscate our guns.
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They're here now! The Confiscation Police.

Oh ... sorry. It's just a cop selling raffle tickets.

God that was close. Please Wayne LaPierre, protect usssssssssssssssssss!

Jeez you guys are wussies lol.
 
Kal'Stang said:
If he pushes this...yeah...Trumps definitely going to win even if Trump is sitting in a jail cell. American's do NOT like this kind of talk. Every time Democrats have even slightly suggested anything remotely like this they have suffered for it around election time.
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It would be unconstitutional base on ex post facto law.
 
Rogue Valley said:
They're here now! The Confiscation Police.

Oh ... sorry. It's just a cop selling raffle tickets.

God that was close. Please Wayne LaPierre, protect usssssssssssssssssss!

Jeez you guys are wussies lol.
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Did you read the article?
 
Rogue Valley said:
They're here now! The Confiscation Police.

Oh ... sorry. It's just a cop selling raffle tickets.

God that was close. Please Wayne LaPierre, protect usssssssssssssssssss!

Jeez you guys are wussies lol.
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There are no cops nor raffle tickets at issue anywhere in this thread.
 
Rucker61 said:
Did you read the article?
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Yes ONE dem proposes this. Wow I guess that must mean the whole Dem party is out to confiscate guns huh? Can we take ONE crazy idea from a republican and broad brush the entire Republican Party?
 
apdst said:
It would be unconstitutional base on ex post facto law.
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While I enjoy fiction as much as the next guy (more really), that is not settled law.

While the legal analysis is undecided, previous bans and restrictions and decisions suggest that the courts try to strike a balance between the competing interests here. Not even Heller goes as far as you seem to be going.

Opinion analysis: Four differing views leave ex post facto doctrine muddled but the result for the Guidelines is clear - SCOTUSblog
 
Praxas said:
Yes ONE dem proposes this. Wow I guess that must mean the whole Dem party is out to confiscate guns huh? Can we take ONE crazy idea from a republican and broad brush the entire Republican Party?
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One?

 
Praxas said:
Yes ONE dem proposes this. Wow I guess that must mean the whole Dem party is out to confiscate guns huh? Can we take ONE crazy idea from a republican and broad brush the entire Republican Party?
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Isn't one sufficient? There's two in Ohio, de Leon, Feinstein, etc. And yes, Republicans say some stupid things too.
 
Kal'Stang said:
One?

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Yes one in this instance is proposing it now. Perhaps you can show how these two (different times) represents the thoughts of the majority of Dems. Again using your logic all I have to do is find three republicans proposing something stupid and I can CORRECTLY apply it to the entire Republican Party. I love watching the chicken littles :lamo
 
Rucker61 said:
Isn't one sufficient? There's two in Ohio, de Leon, Feinstein, etc. And yes, Republicans say some stupid things too.
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So then I can take dumb Republican comments and apply it correctly to the entire Republican Party right?
 
Praxas said:
So then I can take dumb Republican comments and apply it correctly to the entire Republican Party right?
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Why should I care?
 
Rucker61 said:
Why should I care?
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Well that’s fair since I don’t give a **** about your rant about a few Dems Proposing something that will never get passed. Feel free to post more of your snowflake comments.
 
Praxas said:
Yes ONE dem proposes this. Wow I guess that must mean the whole Dem party is out to confiscate guns huh? Can we take ONE crazy idea from a republican and broad brush the entire Republican Party?
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Why stop now?
 
Praxas said:
Yes one in this instance is proposing it now. Perhaps you can show how these two (different times) represents the thoughts of the majority of Dems. Again using your logic all I have to do is find three republicans proposing something stupid and I can CORRECTLY apply it to the entire Republican Party. I love watching the chicken littles :lamo
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You're missing the point. Yesterday I could only point towards one senator. Today I can point towards 1 Senator and 1 Congressman. How many will I be able to point towards tomorrow? Day after tomorrow? Next day? Next year? Slippery slopes don't have to be fast. They can take years or even decades. In the end, the bottom will still be reached.
 
Kal'Stang said:
You're missing the point. Yesterday I could only point towards one senator. Today I can point towards 1 Senator and 1 Congressman. How many will I be able to point towards tomorrow? Day after tomorrow? Next day? Next year? Slippery slopes don't have to be fast. They can take years or even decades. In the end, the bottom will still be reached.
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Well to answer your question there was one in 1995, how many in 2018 have you found? Sorry not buying the chicken little dance.
 
Praxas said:
Well to answer your question there was one in 1995, how many in 2018 have you found? Sorry not buying the chicken little dance.
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How many would it take for you to buy the chicken little dance?

"Democratic senators seen as possible contenders for the White House in 2020 are all taking positions in strong support of an assault weapons ban, pressuring their colleagues up for reelection this year.
Though the positioning may not effect the prospects of legislation, its support by all of the 2020 would-be candidates puts lawmakers like Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) in a tough spot months before the November midterm elections. "

"Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist, added: “The reason for the tension within the party is pretty obvious. Democrats have no choice but to press this issue. With 69 percent in favor of a complete ban, they’re on the right side of public opinion on the issue … For the 2020 Dems, a ban on assault weapons is a no-brainer.” "

"All of the prospective 2020 Democratic candidates in the upper chamber — Sens. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) Kamala Harris (Calif.), Cory Booker (N.J.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Chris Murphy (Conn.) are all co-sponsors of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (Calif.) legislation to ban assault weapons. Sanders has also said he favors banning assault weapons. “These weapons are not for hunting,” he said. “They’re for killing human beings.” "

"Support for the ban on assault weapons has grown among Democrats over the last 11 years. In 2007, 67 Democrats supported a ban. That number continued to grow in 2013 with 83 Democrats co-sponsoring legislation. The number grew to 149 in 2015 before settling on 167 co-sponsors this year"

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lt-weapons-ban-putting-pressure-on-colleagues
 
Rucker61 said:
How many would it take for you to buy the chicken little dance?

"Democratic senators seen as possible contenders for the White House in 2020 are all taking positions in strong support of an assault weapons ban, pressuring their colleagues up for reelection this year.
Though the positioning may not effect the prospects of legislation, its support by all of the 2020 would-be candidates puts lawmakers like Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) in a tough spot months before the November midterm elections. "

"Brad Bannon, a Democratic strategist, added: “The reason for the tension within the party is pretty obvious. Democrats have no choice but to press this issue. With 69 percent in favor of a complete ban, they’re on the right side of public opinion on the issue … For the 2020 Dems, a ban on assault weapons is a no-brainer.” "

"All of the prospective 2020 Democratic candidates in the upper chamber — Sens. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) Kamala Harris (Calif.), Cory Booker (N.J.), Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) and Chris Murphy (Conn.) are all co-sponsors of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s (Calif.) legislation to ban assault weapons. Sanders has also said he favors banning assault weapons. “These weapons are not for hunting,” he said. “They’re for killing human beings.” "

"Support for the ban on assault weapons has grown among Democrats over the last 11 years. In 2007, 67 Democrats supported a ban. That number continued to grow in 2013 with 83 Democrats co-sponsoring legislation. The number grew to 149 in 2015 before settling on 167 co-sponsors this year"

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...lt-weapons-ban-putting-pressure-on-colleagues
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Again, show me where a president can solitarily ban all weapons and force confiscation of said firearms. Also show me where a bill has actually been brought to the floor to van all firearms. Yes your chicken little comments are exactly that.

I can point to many prominent republicans that think the Bible should take precedence over the constitution. Does that mean they will throw out the constitution should they be elected president? Does that mean republicans as a whole hate the constitution? Give me a break .
 
Praxas said:
Well to answer your question there was one in 1995, how many in 2018 have you found? Sorry not buying the chicken little dance.
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It is a bit far-fetched that the Democrat party gun-banners will ever be able to find political allies sufficient to actually pass anything substantive. When something similar was tried in 1994, many of the supporting Democrat congresscritters were looking for a job after the subsequent election. I believe these guys love their offices too much to endanger their political longevity.
 
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