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Good for Hornady Ammunition

Ive never tried Hornady ammo. I usually go for Federal and Cor-bon.
 
Excellent, if they do want people to own guns then they do not need high quality ammo.


Here's hoping that firearms manufacturers take the cue and refuse sales of firearms to New York's law enforcement agencies as well.
 
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Ive never tried Hornady ammo. I usually go for Federal and Cor-bon.

good choices-I carried Federal Hydra shock for years since I got it from the FBI firearms instructor. But I like the 110 Grain Hornady critical defense in my 38 revolver

here is the stuff I like for the revolvers-this box is on my desk

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Guess Cuomo will have to find another source for his officers guns ammo.
 
good choices-I carried Federal Hydra shock for years since I got it from the FBI firearms instructor. But I like the 110 Grain Hornady critical defense in my 38 revolver

here is the stuff I like for the revolvers-this box is on my desk

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Clean the keyboard dude! :mrgreen:
 
Reverse boycott?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this won't last long. Makes good news now but by deer season it might have lost it's momentum.

several smaller makers have done similar things. Spikes Tactical (upper middle AR 15) Maker and Barrett (top of the line big $$$ sniper rifles) have refused to sell their stuff to states that ban their weapons for private citizens. Barrett refused to service or sell new rifles to LA after the bannerrhoids who run that city banned those 13000 dollar rifles for private citizens.
 
several smaller makers have done similar things. Spikes Tactical (upper middle AR 15) Maker and Barrett (top of the line big $$$ sniper rifles) have refused to sell their stuff to states that ban their weapons for private citizens. Barrett refused to service or sell new rifles to LA after the bannerrhoids who run that city banned those 13000 dollar rifles for private citizens.

Wait a minute. People pay $13,000 for a rifle? Yikes. Some people have 'way too much money.
But the thing about boycotts is, you have to be holding the money for it to be effective. At all effective- even then it's just for show. For manufacturers to boycott a market sounds like an empty-handed gesture. If the good-will and rah-rah extra business doesn't equal the sales lost to all those white-tail hunters in upstate New York, Hornady might soften it's activist stance.
 
Reverse boycott?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this won't last long. Makes good news now but by deer season it might have lost it's momentum.

From what I understand and read this is just a ban towards the government. Regular civilians will still be able to buy the ammo.
 
good choices-I carried Federal Hydra shock for years since I got it from the FBI firearms instructor. But I like the 110 Grain Hornady critical defense in my 38 revolver

here is the stuff I like for the revolvers-this box is on my desk

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Make sure to save bucks for a can of keyboard duster! :)

This is poetic justice.
 
From what I understand and read this is just a ban towards the government. Regular civilians will still be able to buy the ammo.

I'm pretty sure that the ammo that was being sold to state agencies isn't the same type of ammo used to hunt whitetail, anyway.
 
Reverse boycott?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this won't last long. Makes good news now but by deer season it might have lost it's momentum.

I am no bullet expert but I am pretty sure the bullets used to hunt deer are not the same used to defend against people.Deer might need a larger caliber.Although I could be wrong on this and someone who does actually use firearms to hunt and for law enforcement and or personal defense can correct me on this.
 
I am no bullet expert but I am pretty sure the bullets used to hunt deer are not the same used to defend against people.Deer might need a larger caliber.Although I could be wrong on this and someone who does actually use firearms to hunt and for law enforcement and or personal defense can correct me on this.

Might be, I wouldn't know. All I have is a 30-30 for the little blacktails hereabouts. I never considered what calibre might be needed to shoot people. I guess once you've decided to shoot someone you want to hit them as hard as possible.
 
Might be, I wouldn't know. All I have is a 30-30 for the little blacktails hereabouts. I never considered what calibre might be needed to shoot people. I guess once you've decided to shoot someone you want to hit them as hard as possible.

Law enforcement agencies typically use 9mm and .40 S&W JHP and 5.56mm FMJ, with perhaps some 5.56mm 69/77 grain SMK or .308 SMK for sniper work. I read that two of the deals put on hold were for 9mm.

None of this is for hunting.
 
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Law enforcement agencies typically use 9mm and .40 S&W JHP and 5.56mm FMJ, with perhaps some 5.56mm 69/77 grain SMK or .309 SMK for sniper work. I read that two of the deals put on hold were for 9mm.

None of this is for hunting.

I don't think NYS is very worried. LOL
 
Law enforcement agencies typically use 9mm and .40 S&W JHP and 5.56mm FMJ, with perhaps some 5.56mm 69/77 grain SMK or .309 SMK for sniper work. I read that two of the deals put on hold were for 9mm.

None of this is for hunting.

All Greek to me. Those first two are handgun rounds, no? That's my only beef with Canada's gun laws- I'd rather be able to hunt with a handgun.
Never heard of a '.309 SMK for sniper work' but just from that it sounds like a sheep hunter might be interested. He's liable to take long shots and want the animal to drop on the spot, countryside considered. Moose, bears, elk, sheep, there's lots of different game hunted out here. Going by the standard 7mm used by lots of guys who hunt big game, sounds like most of what you mentioned is kind of light.
 
All Greek to me. Those first two are handgun rounds, no? That's my only beef with Canada's gun laws- I'd rather be able to hunt with a handgun.
Never heard of a '.309 SMK for sniper work' but just from that it sounds like a sheep hunter might be interested. He's liable to take long shots and want the animal to drop on the spot, countryside considered. Moose, bears, elk, sheep, there's lots of different game hunted out here. Going by the standard 7mm used by lots of guys who hunt big game, sounds like most of what you mentioned is kind of light.

Sorry, .309 was a typo. .308 is a pretty standard cartridge, and SMK is Sierra Match King, probably the most common long range bullet for .223 and .308. They don't expand sufficiently to be considered a good hunting round. I don't know of any police forces that use anything larger than .308, but my knowledge isn't complete there.
 
Ive never tried Hornady ammo. I usually go for Federal and Cor-bon.

Hornady V-max is good ammo. I handload 69gr V-max in .223 and shoot 1 moa at 100 yards with an out of the box AR.
 
Wait a minute. People pay $13,000 for a rifle? Yikes. Some people have 'way too much money.
But the thing about boycotts is, you have to be holding the money for it to be effective. At all effective- even then it's just for show. For manufacturers to boycott a market sounds like an empty-handed gesture. If the good-will and rah-rah extra business doesn't equal the sales lost to all those white-tail hunters in upstate New York, Hornady might soften it's activist stance.

They're boycotting state agencies, not citizens.
 
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