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Backfire: NRA shatters fundraising records during intense media/political attacks

Parrish said:
So, you are defending mass murder as a right. Thanks for your honesty.
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I don't think it's that to be honest. What often happens is a direct reaction to something taken away without looking at the broader picture. Taking guns away at this stage of the game is almost a pointless endeavor if the majority of the people in the country don't want it. In another thread I had asked a poster who had similar 2nd amendment support views whether the position we should take according to this line of thinking is accepting the increase in these types of incidents should just be accepted as the new norm. No one seems to want to find that as an acceptable situation, but the issue is so polarizing that it prevents practical thinking to look for solutions. The one I can't wrap my head around is arming teachers and everyone else because you can understand the logic from a pure gun owner's perspective, but from a civilized society point of view it boggles the mind.
 
Parrish said:
So, you are defending mass murder as a right. Thanks for your honesty.
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Leap to ridiculous conclusions much? No one is defending a right to commit any crime.
 
Jetboogieman said:
It's a weird response.

Like it's one thing to say one way or another you agree with gun rights or not.

But if you as a society, after a bunch of kids get shot, buy guns at record rates and throw money at what is not a rights group, but an industry lobbying group at record rates, there's something wrong with your country.

I like firearms, I enjoy shooting, I wouldn't go so far as to say I'd like to own one, but I don't have an issue with ownership, but as for the above, that's not something a normal society should do, it's bizarre and only in a right wing bubble universe is it thought to be an appropriate response to such an incident.
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No, if you had read through the thread, the reaction was explained several times. People dont buy guns or donate to the NRA because someone shoots up a school. People buy guns and donate to the NRA because of the hyperbolic, divisive and hate-filled response of the left. The best ad for the NRA i have seen was that CNN town hall.
 
Parrish said:
So, you are defending mass murder as a right. Thanks for your honesty.
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another dishonest lie and misinterpretation of what I posted.
 
Fletch said:
It was a moronic charge. I dont blame him for not answering.
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I was actually watching something on the tube and was not posting. If Parrish doesn't respond to my comments I will lambaste her for the same nonsense :mrgreen:
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I heard a great analogy the other day, blaming the NRA for shooting deaths makes as much sense as blaming AAA for auto deaths.
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I made one up just now- Any idea that can fit on a bumper sticker is worth every hour it takes to read.
 
vegas giants said:
Words. The US has the most lax gun laws in the developed world......but you act like they are banning every gun tomorrow
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Wanna piss 'em off? Tell them the US has the most liberal gun laws in the world.

Stand back...
 
Jetboogieman said:
It's a weird response.

Like it's one thing to say one way or another you agree with gun rights or not.

But if you as a society, after a bunch of kids get shot, buy guns at record rates and throw money at what is not a rights group, but an industry lobbying group at record rates, there's something wrong with your country.

I like firearms, I enjoy shooting, I wouldn't go so far as to say I'd like to own one, but I don't have an issue with ownership, but as for the above, that's not something a normal society should do, it's bizarre and only in a right wing bubble universe is it thought to be an appropriate response to such an incident.
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1. The claims of the NRA being a gun manufacturing lobbyist group are lies spewed by anti-2nd amendment trash who are sick of pro-2nd amendment rights groups standing in their way of enacting more anti-2nd amendment laws. The NRA, GOA and other similar groups are pro-2nd amendment rights groups. It is the job of pro-2nd amendment rights groups to oppose the politicians who want to enact anti-2nd amendment laws.

2. People aren't buying guns and donating money to 2nd amendment rights groups because of some kids got shot. People are buying guns and donating money to 2nd amendment rights groups because anti-2nd amendment in office and in the media are calling for bans on semi-automatic firearms under the guise of an assault weapons bans and all sorts of other anti-2nd amendment laws. Telling people you are going to ban something is the most sure way of getting them to buy the thing you want banned and to donate money to groups who will try to stop you.
 
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Kal'Stang said:
So from reading the article provided by you 1.9 million of the 2.4 million that was donated was donated by individuals from the look of it. Not corporations. So much for gun manufacturers being their biggest donors huh?
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Ummm no. One month's worth of donations after a shrill call from the NRA management doesn't give a very good picture on total annual donations...

In 2016 the NRA spent approx. 400 million- just under 2 million a month during a record setting surge in small donations doesn't come close 400 million...

But the 'gun' rubbers are desperate to 'prove' the firearm lobby isn't the biggest contribution group... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Ummm no. One month's worth of donations after a shrill call from the NRA management doesn't give a very good picture on total annual donations...

In 2016 the NRA spent approx. 400 million- just under 2 million a month during a record setting surge in small donations doesn't come close 400 million...

But the 'gun' rubbers are desperate to 'prove' the firearm lobby isn't the biggest contribution group... :peace
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Ah so corporations just chose this one month to not donate any money? Hmm...odd. :roll:
 
Kal'Stang said:
Ah so corporations just chose this one month to not donate any money? Hmm...odd.
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Not odd at all, more than likely they do quarterly at best, after all they have a process to disperse funds and it isn't alimony with a monthly check- the NRA is still in bed with them... ;)

But how do you explain how much the NRA spends annually (400million) with the record breaking max small donors have managed for the first time ever (1.9 million)??? :confused:

So at best 20 million per year from members vs 400 million spent... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Ummm no. One month's worth of donations after a shrill call from the NRA management doesn't give a very good picture on total annual donations...

In 2016 the NRA spent approx. 400 million- just under 2 million a month during a record setting surge in small donations doesn't come close 400 million...

But the 'gun' rubbers are desperate to 'prove' the firearm lobby isn't the biggest contribution group... :peace
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$400 million?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2016

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
 
Floridafan said:
I wonder just how much of that came from foreign sources, which also makes me ask as to why an foreigner would want to contribute to the NRA.
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why are so many foreigners complaining about the gun rights of American citizens? They are easy to find on this board
 
Rucker61 said:
$400 million?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2016

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
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notquiteright said:
Not odd at all, more than likely they do quarterly at best, after all they have a process to disperse funds and it isn't alimony with a monthly check- the NRA is still in bed with them... ;)

But how do you explain how much the NRA spends annually (400million) with the record breaking max small donors have managed for the first time ever (1.9 million)??? :confused:

So at best 20 million per year from members vs 400 million spent... :peace
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400 million huh? Where'd you get your figures? Some pro-gun control site?
 
Floridafan said:
I wonder just how much of that came from foreign sources, which also makes me ask as to why an foreigner would want to contribute to the NRA.
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That oughta be public information. How about you go find out?
 
apdst said:
That oughta be public information. How about you go find out?
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'We do know that the NRA spent millions more on this election that they did on the last. Again, where did the money come from?
 
Floridafan said:
'We do know that the NRA spent millions more on this election that they did on the last. Again, where did the money come from?
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credible citation needed for this claim. One thing is true, Trump's win has accentuated the NRA hate among the Clintonista fans
 
Rucker61 said:
$400 million?
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Ummm it might be because I spent much of my youth under a ruck I don't get the spread sheets' point....

It appears your chart shows how much and to whom the NRA donated their funds- not the totality of their operation budget (Those K Street lobbyists don't come cheap and the mass panic mailings are not free)

Could you try doing more than a link or two???? :peace
 
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vegas giants said:
Words. The US has the most lax gun laws in the developed world......but you act like they are banning every gun tomorrow
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Florida recently banned bumpstocks and raised the age to purchase a firearm of any sort and Vermont did the same and banned 30 magazines. Both have been rather leniant towards firearms. It's not just words.
 
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