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Took long enough, but that's OK

TurtleDude said:
In Ohio, if your ccw license is somewhat recent, the FFL does not have to do a background check though some do so anyway
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Same here in Texas. Before I got mine the background check took anywhere between 20 minutes up to 3 weeks, now it takes as long as it takes to ring up the sale.
 
TurtleDude said:
Its idiotic to take that long. when I went to get my carry license renewed, it took ten minutes to have the fingerprints done and approved. Under the current law, if you are not denied in three days you are cleared. Especially if you put your social security number on the 4473
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I did, and it was supposed to take nor more than 3 days. I just found out what happened. Primary Arms forgot to call me, and tell me I was good to go, and with all the work and gigs I was doing, I didn't have time to call them. When I finally did, almost a month later, they had me come in and sign off on the paperwork. I wasn't in a hurry, anyways. Deer season isn't for a few months, but at least, until then, I can have some pork in my freezer. LOL.
 
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pleasantvalley said:
i agree.

You should see the anal probing you get when you want to put a silencer on the end of one of your rifles.
I paid for mine saturday, and sig had a 2 for 1 sale, so i got a .22 caliber silencer for free. It had a $445 price tag on it. I had no idea.
They just wrapped it up with the one i bought.
Then while in the same shopping center, i thought i would visit the shop again and they stopped me and gave me two free boxes of .308 match ammo ($35 each) a deck of sig cards and two sig hats. Glad i went back in.

Now the 2 to 6 month waiting game starts.
No problem with that at all.
I bought the cans because when i shoot in my property up north of here i like to be a good neighbor.
The boom of a short barreled .308 can rattle your fillings.

I did not even ask them if the .22 free silencer was 5.56 / .223 or .22lr.
I was too much in awe.

Tomorrow i go back for some more anal probing paperwork, so i can ask then.
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22lr.
 
I don't mind a longer wait as long as it means they are actually doing a thorough search. If it's just to make you wait when nothing came up initially, that's silly.
 
danarhea said:
After a month long delay in my Federal NICS background check, I was finally cleared, the firearm transfer paperwork has been completed, and I am now in possession of a Mossberg AR-15 Hunter MMR rifle. Can't believe it took that long, but I think I understand. With all the crazy shootings going on, I can see why the Feds are taking so long to process background checks for this kind of weapon. So I am OK with it. I do support the Second Amendment strongly, but I also believe that background checks, like the one I went through, should be universal. Yea, it was a pain in the ass, but to me that's worth it, even if it stops only one mass shooting.

Discussion?
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A month? :confused:

My checks were completed in about 15 minutes.
 
Polar Bum said:
A month? :confused:

My checks were completed in about 15 minutes.
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Turns out the delay was lifted after 3 days, and the place the transfer was taking place forgot to call me. LOL.
 
danarhea said:
After a month long delay in my Federal NICS background check, I was finally cleared, the firearm transfer paperwork has been completed, and I am now in possession of a Mossberg AR-15 Hunter MMR rifle. Can't believe it took that long, but I think I understand. With all the crazy shootings going on, I can see why the Feds are taking so long to process background checks for this kind of weapon. So I am OK with it. I do support the Second Amendment strongly, but I also believe that background checks, like the one I went through, should be universal. Yea, it was a pain in the ass, but to me that's worth it, even if it stops only one mass shooting.

Discussion?
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Well, there have been a butt-load of holes in enforcement in general lately...in some cases blatant, in some cases, not enough/proper guidelines for follow up. So *if* more thorough attention is being paid to background checks, I certainly hope it pays off.

Good for you taking a pragmatic view.
 
SoulFire77 said:
Setting aside "the way things ought to be" for a moment... let's face facts. There is no doubt that the same government that tracks your emails, listens to your phone calls, spies on your internet activity, and records your features in their facial recognition software is going to know about your gun purchase eventually. So, the concept of not doing a background check because you "don't want to end up on a government list" is rather naive.

Make all the lists you want, I say... But, when you write "for confiscation" at the top of one of them - *then* we have a problem.
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Not sure you know how private sales work....
 
danarhea said:
Turns out the delay was lifted after 3 days, and the place the transfer was taking place forgot to call me. LOL.
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ouch!

Death by beaurocracy.
 
Lursa said:
Not sure you know how private sales work....
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My point is... Let's say you walk into a gun store, and walk out with a gun today - no background check, no paperwork, no waiting period... Let's just pretend that it were possible... The first time you post on facebook about it, or mention it in an email, or speak about it through your smartphone - you have potentially put yourself on a list of "Gun Owners."

I'm simply saying that opposing background checks on the grounds that you don't want to "wind up on a confiscation list" is redundant.
 
=danarhea;1068440747]After a month long delay in my Federal NICS background check, I was finally cleared, the firearm transfer paperwork has been completed, and I am now in possession of a Mossberg AR-15 Hunter MMR rifle. Can't believe it took that long, but I think I understand. With all the crazy shootings going on, I can see why the Feds are taking so long to process background checks for this kind of weapon. So I am OK with it.
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I do support the Second Amendment strongly, but I also believe that background checks, like the one I went through, should be universal. Yea, it was a pain in the ass, but to me that's worth it, even if it stops only one mass shooting.
Discussion?
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Why should it take longer?Is the BC somehow different for that weapon or rather the person buying said weapon. If you were buying lets say an AK clone would the BC be somehow different? Would it be different for say a pump action .12GA? I think the AR-15 has been vilified pure and simple.
So I see you have bought into the if it only stops one. The BC took a month? It sounds as though you are blaming the type of weapon for the delay and not the BC its self.
 
SoulFire77 said:
My point is... Let's say you walk into a gun store, and walk out with a gun today - no background check, no paperwork, no waiting period... Let's just pretend that it were possible... The first time you post on facebook about it, or mention it in an email, or speak about it through your smartphone - you have potentially put yourself on a list of "Gun Owners."

I'm simply saying that opposing background checks on the grounds that you don't want to "wind up on a confiscation list" is redundant.
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Or on boards like this. I am so fu*ked.
 
SoulFire77 said:
My point is... Let's say you walk into a gun store, and walk out with a gun today - no background check, no paperwork, no waiting period... Let's just pretend that it were possible... The first time you post on facebook about it, or mention it in an email, or speak about it through your smartphone - you have potentially put yourself on a list of "Gun Owners."

I'm simply saying that opposing background checks on the grounds that you don't want to "wind up on a confiscation list" is redundant.
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You really believe that?

I cant say you're wrong but I dont think it's to that point yet.
 
Lursa said:
You really believe that?

I cant say you're wrong but I dont think it's to that point yet.
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The NYPD has been monitoring social media for posts indicative of gun violence since at least 2013. “We have identified the bad guys and we are going after them,” Deputy Inspector Joseph Gulotta, commander of the 73rd Precinct, in Brownsville, said. “Social media has changed everything.”
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- Here's What Happens When You Post a Gun on Social Media and You're Not Jeb
 
Rucker61 said:
Because you can have a single AR lower with a nice trigger, and multiple uppers:

1. .5.56mm, 16" barrel, 3 gun
2. 6.5 Grendel, deer/antelope rifle
3. .300 Blackout/suppressed, home defense
4. .224 Valkyrie, long range rifle
5. .458 SOCOM, feral hog gun.
6. .204, varmint rifle.

All of those uppers are cheaper than an entire rifle is.
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An extensive list. A few I didn't even know existed. I see the value of multiple calibers. That kind of stuff was not available in the early 70's when I was a hunter. The only multi -frame I ever had was a Barretta over under. It had an auto safety I really hated.
 
SoulFire77 said:
My point is... Let's say you walk into a gun store, and walk out with a gun today - no background check, no paperwork, no waiting period... Let's just pretend that it were possible... The first time you post on facebook about it, or mention it in an email, or speak about it through your smartphone - you have potentially put yourself on a list of "Gun Owners."

I'm simply saying that opposing background checks on the grounds that you don't want to "wind up on a confiscation list" is redundant.
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Then the owner of the gun store is in really deep doo-doo, since it is federal law for them, according to the Brady law, to run an NCIS background check on you. Not only would he be put out of business by the Feds, but he could go to prison as well.
 
danarhea said:
Then the owner of the gun store is in really deep doo-doo, since it is federal law for them, according to the Brady law, to run an NCIS background check on you. Not only would he be put out of business by the Feds, but he could go to prison as well.
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You ignored this part: Let's just pretend that it were possible..
 
danarhea said:
I don't pretend what's not possible. LOL.
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actually, in some states, including Ohio, if you have a Current CCW issued after a certain date, the store doesn't have to run a background check on you. In some states if you have certain credentials, the its the same.
 
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