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Shooting Outside my Hotel

calamity said:
So, I'm on the phone, talking to my wife. Suddenly, I hear "Pop pop pop pop..." maybe ten of them. Then a few more "pops" after a little gap, 2-3 seconds maybe.

I tell my wife, "I think I just heard gunshots."
She's like, "No way. It must have been fireworks."
I reply, "Nuh-uh. Those were gun shots."

A few minutes later the sirens begin. Conclusion: definitely gun shots. So, I go outside and see bunches of flashing red and blue lights, at least a dozen cops and several emergency vehicles are across the street. So, I fly down the stairs and head over to the scene. I find out that two people were shot. Something to do with a cab. It's all vague.

Here's the latest on the story.

PD: 2 people shot at CVS parking lot in east Phoenix - Arizona's Family


Oh...the gun control part---this makes one more of many gun incidents happening in my vicinity or to my friends. I am sick of it. Ban guns. Take them and melt them down. And, lock up anyone ever caught running around with one.
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Hey, if they would have used knifes they might not have found them until morning.
 
calamity said:
So, I'm on the phone, talking to my wife. Suddenly, I hear "Pop pop pop pop..." maybe ten of them. Then a few more "pops" after a little gap, 2-3 seconds maybe.

I tell my wife, "I think I just heard gunshots."
She's like, "No way. It must have been fireworks."
I reply, "Nuh-uh. Those were gun shots."

A few minutes later the sirens begin. Conclusion: definitely gun shots. So, I go outside and see bunches of flashing red and blue lights, at least a dozen cops and several emergency vehicles are across the street. So, I fly down the stairs and head over to the scene. I find out that two people were shot. Something to do with a cab. It's all vague.

Here's the latest on the story.

PD: 2 people shot at CVS parking lot in east Phoenix - Arizona's Family


Oh...the gun control part---this makes one more of many gun incidents happening in my vicinity or to my friends. I am sick of it. Ban guns. Take them and melt them down. And, lock up anyone ever caught running around with one.
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Translation: I saw this news story, thought it would make a cool story bro, push stupid gun ban nonsense.
 
Lovebug said:
Hey, if they would have used knifes they might not have found them until morning.
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Let me know the next time some innocent person minding his own business gets hit by a stray knife from 50 feet away.
 
calamity said:
I know what you always were too.
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Regarding this situation, I'm pro second amendment. And first, 3rd, 4th, and the rest. Always have been, always will be.

I've never claimed to be otherwise.
 
jimbo said:
Regarding this situation, I'm pro second amendment. And first, 3rd, 4th, and the rest. Always have been, always will be.

I've never claimed to be otherwise.
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So, I take it the apology isn't coming.
 
calamity said:
Thanks. And, yeah. It's probably an extreme position taken out of the immediate frustration felt at the moment.
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It was obvious that you were venting, being that it was such a short time after the incident.


calamity said:
I'm not surprised by the attacks.
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I wasn't surprised that folks would be very annoyed by your extreme stance to ban all guns. Those comments were inviting strong criticism of your position there and I have no issue with that. It's a position I do not support.

The attacks on your friends though, unforgivable, they go way beyond what could be considered reasonable or acceptable comments. Vile and speaks volumes about the actual level some folks will stoop to. Like I said, no issue with going after your position, but to speak about your deceased friends in such a way is beyond disgusting.
 
Serenity said:
It was obvious that you were venting, being that it was such a short time after the incident.




I wasn't surprised that folks would be very annoyed by your extreme stance to ban all guns. Those comments were inviting strong criticism of your position there and I have no issue with that. It's a position I do not support.

The attacks on your friends though, unforgivable, they go way beyond what could be considered reasonable or acceptable comments. Vile and speaks volumes about the actual level some folks will stoop to. Like I said, no issue with going after your position, but to speak about your deceased friends in such a way is beyond disgusting.
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No one is attacking his friends, they, like his stance and his story aren't real. You are giving way too much weight to his fiction.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:

You know what?
I'm almost tempted now to actually go and GET my California CCW permit.
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What county do you live in? In some it's about as difficult as it is anywhere else. Others, unless you're a major donor to the sheriff, very difficult. In San Francisco, there are about four people with CCW permits.

I might just do it now, because it would make me very happy to prove that a liberal state like California will still allow a properly responsible and stable law abiding person to get one.

I have to decide if I want to devote the time and money to doing it but all this nonsense-talk is pushing me in that direction.
But just remember, we Californians didn't have a problem until Ronald Reagan and a bunch of his frightened fellow CONSERVATIVE WHITE friends got scared at the thought of some pissed off black guys who were sick and tired of getting jacked up every day by crooked cops and Klan types, oftentimes one and the same.
Just remember, your big wonderful National Rifle Association gave Reagan and the Republicans all the help they needed to pass restrictive gun laws out here in The Golden State.
Prior to that, we didn't have these problems with gun rights.
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The law against open carry of loaded guns was passed in 1967. Democrats held both houses of the California legislature. Was that law a racist law?

Here's a listing of all California gun control laws including the year they were passed, and a matrix of which party controlled the California legislature when they were passed. Who passed those laws?

LegalCaliforniaTimeline < Gunwiki < TWiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party_strength_in_California

Liberals just want some SANITY about this issue.
I can't speak for Calamity but I know most liberals just want to make life difficult for crazy people, abusive bullies and criminals, so that the rest of us can enjoy our 2A rights AND sleep at night.
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If no one in San Francisco can get a CCW, and very few living in LA County can, does that mean that the majority of the people in those locales are "crazy people, abusive bullies and criminals"?
 
jimbo said:
Nope.
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So, you besmirch the dead without regret or any idea of who they were before being killed because why exactly?
 
calamity said:
So, I'm on the phone, talking to my wife. Suddenly, I hear "Pop pop pop pop..." maybe ten of them. Then a few more "pops" after a little gap, 2-3 seconds maybe.

I tell my wife, "I think I just heard gunshots."
She's like, "No way. It must have been fireworks."
I reply, "Nuh-uh. Those were gun shots."

A few minutes later the sirens begin. Conclusion: definitely gun shots. So, I go outside and see bunches of flashing red and blue lights, at least a dozen cops and several emergency vehicles are across the street. So, I fly down the stairs and head over to the scene. I find out that two people were shot. Something to do with a cab. It's all vague.

Here's the latest on the story.

PD: 2 people shot at CVS parking lot in east Phoenix - Arizona's Family


Oh...the gun control part---this makes one more of many gun incidents happening in my vicinity or to my friends. I am sick of it. Ban guns. Take them and melt them down. And, lock up anyone ever caught running around with one.
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If you don't like guns what were you doing in AZ? CA would be much more your liking.
 
calamity said:
So, you besmirch the dead without regret or any idea of who they were before being killed because why exactly?
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People are doubting the existence of your friends, and should they actually be real, the very honest point is you chose poorly your friends.
 
calamity said:
Nope. Your gun rights have infringed on my right not to be around gunshots once too ****ing often.
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Than go to CA or NJ or HI, you won't find that many guns in those places.
 
calamity said:
I don't need more info. I'm done with this gun crap. Melt the guns. Ban 'em, and lock up anyone caught carrying one for 50 ****ing years.
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how about we just lock up the criminals using one

minimum 30 year sentence for any felony where a gun is used

minimum life sentence if someone is shot

and all guns seized must be melted down by authorities

gets the criminals and their guns off the street....win/win
 
Renae said:
No one is attacking his friends, they, like his stance and his story aren't real. You are giving way too much weight to his fiction.
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Open your eyes.

jimbo said:
If you've had over a dozen people you know shot and killed, it's not the guns, it's your choice of friends.
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Renae said:
People are doubting the existence of your friends, and should they actually be real, the very honest point is you chose poorly your friends.
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calamity said:
Look. I'm sick of this snide crap. A mother of a small baby, a mother of two adolescents, a business owner, his innocent neighbor who heard a noise, a building superintendent, a soldier, a hard working dock worker...the only thing wrong is that these were the wrong people to be shot dead by those stupid guns.


I think you should apologize for besmirching these good folks.
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calamity said:
So, I take it the apology isn't coming.
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Life becomes so much easier when you learn to accept an apology you will never get.
 
Serenity said:
Open your eyes.
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I saw that, I agree with jimbo. It's just neither I nor anyone aside you it seems, believes his claim of so many known victims of gun crime.
 
calamity said:
Then why are you doing it?

I just went through some crap thanks to stupid guns. Of course, you could not care less because all you care about is the stupid guns.
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you didn't go through any crap. someone else did. Its like saying you passed a wreck on the other side of the highway and claiming that caused you problems even though your travel was not delayed.
 
calamity said:
Hmm....maybe I'll join the gun grabber brigade. That actually sounds like a worthwhile profession.
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good, your pathetic rants will only help our side
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You of all people?
Good God, you really DO live in some Right wing dream world where you're convinced that no one is allowed to have guns in California.
That is pathetic.
Please, do yourself a favor, if you're going to be all gung-ho about guns, stop with the ridiculous partisan hackery.
Yes, California restricted OPEN CARRY laws years ago, because BLACK MEN decided to try doing what you WHITE GUYS claim you should be able to do and suddenly YOUR heroes, the NRA, together with our COWBOY governor, Ronald Reagan, passed The Mulford Act.
Gee, wonder why? I know why.
You'll never admit it in a thousand years, but the reason why is, WHITE GUYS were scared ****less at the thought of BLACK GUYS exercising the rights that you think were given to you by God Almighty and the Constitution.

Yes, it IS difficult to get a CCW permit here now. You can thank racist white gun owners for that.
That's NOT partisan hackery at all, it's an inconvenient TRUTH.

But I betcha if I really wanted a CCW I could get one. I'd just have to jump through some hoops, that's all, and if I thought it was really important to me, I'd jump through the hoops and have my CCW.

But I have guns, we have already been through this before. Two of my neighbors have guns, too.
I suspect a bunch of my neighbors have guns, and they're all legal, too.

TD, you are not helping things. In fact, you know what I think? I think you would much rather we NEVER EVER solve this issue, because then you'd have to change your thinking and I don't think that will ever happen. I think you are far happier being pissed off about this issue and believing that liberal states are all about taking away guns.

Hasn't happened here yet.
You just have to be sensible here.
And "HERE" just happens to be one of the most liberal states in the country.
It was THE CONSERVATIVES that screwed things up for us gun owners out here.
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wow, that's hilarious
 
Renae said:
I saw that, I agree with jimbo. It's just neither I nor anyone aside you it seems, believes his claim of so many known victims of gun crime.
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You're words, specifically the underlined.

Renae said:
People are doubting the existence of your friends, and should they actually be real, the very honest point is you chose poorly your friends.
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Such a despicable thing to say.
 
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