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Ingraham losing advertisers for attacking Hogg

calamity said:
IMO, she underestimated his Twitter cred. To her detriment.
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Actually I had to double check it..... OMG..... SNOWFLAKE.....seriously. Shes a D!XK for pointing it out on twitter...

but ITS NOT a lie, he was rejected, WHY? Maybe the schools DONT want to be associated with him?

Really an her comments could ruin her carrier and this kid is trying to start his?? GAWD.... Hes got balls to talk crap on national TV, but gets butt hurt over this... .....
 
Exactice said:
I get it, but again, should you not take what you put down, He put himself in the spot light. No matter who he is, hes going to catch fire... Look at Bruno Mars, aint hurt no one and catching cracks for "taking advantage of X music industry".


I might not fully agree with Ingrahm's attack. But Ingrahm's is a political opinion show same as Carlson, she can pretty much say what ever the hell she wants.... Same with Hogg, he can say what ever the heck he wants... but they BOTH will catch heat...

I dont feel sorry for him, Nor for her....I am not defending neither. But if you want spot light time and you make statements, you better be prepared to catch heat, period... BOTH Sides.
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Just because he put himself in the public sphere doesn't mean that Hogg looses his right to fight back. He had no obligation to suddenly become a doormat just because Ingraham wants to wipe her feet.
 
bearpoker said:
Just because he put himself in the public sphere doesn't mean that Hogg looses his right to fight back. He had no obligation to suddenly become a doormat just because Ingraham wants to wipe her feet.
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OH ABSOLUTELY he is and will be, IN my very FIRST post in the CURRENT society that is HOW things work. With social media, Trolls, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter. You need to be prepared that if YOU put yourself in the public eye and try to speak on behalf of someone, YOU are NOT immune to criticism. IF YOU think you are some how IMMUNE, than you are living in a dream world.

He can fight back all he wants..... but he has to be prepared to take just as much criticism period.
 
Exactice said:
I get it, but again, should you not take what you put down, He put himself in the spot light. No matter who he is, hes going to catch fire... Look at Bruno Mars, aint hurt no one and catching cracks for "taking advantage of X music industry".


I might not fully agree with Ingrahm's attack. But Ingrahm's is a political opinion show same as Carlson, she can pretty much say what ever the hell she wants.... Same with Hogg, he can say what ever the heck he wants... but they BOTH will catch heat...

I dont feel sorry for him, Nor for her....I am not defending neither. But if you want spot light time and you make statements, you better be prepared to catch heat, period... BOTH Sides.
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Ultimately you are right, in that the court of public opinion decides who's ethically right & wrong. And I think it came out today.

But one's coming out in the public to discuss issues, should not have to entail attacks upon one's person. Unfortunately though, it seems we've devolved to this as a society. And it seems Ingram got slapped for throwing a low punch. I have no sympathy for her. And let's hope we don't devolve any further, where Ingram's or any other's attacks like this on high school kids becomes accepted.
 
bearpoker said:
Just because he put himself in the public sphere doesn't mean that Hogg looses his right to fight back. He had no obligation to suddenly become a doormat just because Ingraham wants to wipe her feet.
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Yes, but the problem here is how low does one stoop to defend themselves?

Should Hogg get involved in personal attacks on some facet or perceived facet of Ingram's character? She clearly wanted to distract from the issues by going after him personally, and if he played along she would have succeeded in her distraction.

Unfortunately for many, personal distraction has become the name of the game and is being taken as reality. Check-out the Breitbart comment section, if you want to see how far this can devolve to. And then think, "Is this whee we want to go as a society?".
 
Chomsky said:
Ultimately you are right, in that the court of public opinion decides who's ethically right & wrong. And I think it came out today.

But one's coming out in the public to discuss issues, should not have to entail attacks upon one's person. Unfortunately though, it seems we've devolved to this as a society. And it seems Ingram got slapped for throwing a low punch. I have no sympathy for her. And let's hope we don't devolve any further, where Ingram's or any other's attacks like this on high school kids becomes accepted.
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Taking out the "highschool kid" because he wanted to discuss Adult issues and speak at a national rally. he will be treated like an adult. Court of public opinion is speaking and Im sure Laura is back tracking as yeah probably a low blow, but Laura has been opinionated from the get go so again I take it with a grain of salt.


Let me question it again... with a 4.1 gpa... why was he NOT accepted from those 4 schools? HMMM, is there something that we need to know why?
 
Chomsky said:
Ultimately you are right, in that the court of public opinion decides who's ethically right & wrong. And I think it came out today.

But one's coming out in the public to discuss issues, should not have to entail attacks upon one's person. Unfortunately though, it seems we've devolved to this as a society. And it seems Ingram got slapped for throwing a low punch. I have no sympathy for her. And let's hope we don't devolve any further, where Ingram's or any other's attacks like this on high school kids becomes accepted.
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I do feel sorry for her, but even more so for the populaces declining coherence and rationality. What is becoming "more accepted" is cathartic collective rages (and material harm to "the enemy") as a normal course of business. What is becoming "more accepted" is not a cerebral debate on "Firing Line", or an issue debate in "The advocates" but screaming shout fests, emotional slurs, followed by actions to shut each other down with twitter mobs and boycotts.

I'm far less concerned with an opportune personal snark on character limited twitter, than I am the disintegration into personal destruction.
 
Exactice said:
Actually I had to double check it..... OMG..... SNOWFLAKE.....seriously. Shes a D!XK for pointing it out on twitter...

but ITS NOT a lie, he was rejected, WHY? Maybe the schools DONT want to be associated with him?

Really an her comments could ruin her carrier and this kid is trying to start his?? GAWD.... Hes got balls to talk crap on national TV, but gets butt hurt over this... .....
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Butthurt or just cleverly played?

I'm looking at results, and picking "B."
 
calamity said:
Butthurt or just cleverly played?

I'm looking at results, and picking "B."
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Could very will be, could very will be...LOL I dont like the guy so I dont want to give him credit though AHHAHA!!!
 
Exactice said:
Taking out the "highschool kid" because he wanted to discuss Adult issues and speak at a national rally. he will be treated like an adult. Court of public opinion is speaking and Im sure Laura is back tracking as yeah probably a low blow, but Laura has been opinionated from the get go so again I take it with a grain of salt.


Let me question it again... with a 4.1 gpa... why was he NOT accepted from those 4 schools? HMMM, is there something that we need to know why?
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He was rejected for the reasons Ingraham stated: presumably his school uses the five point scale and a 1270 SAT while very good, is not usually good enough for the UC Campuses he applied to - (and, of course, he is not a minority that contributes to "diversity").

California's UC campuses are very selective of high school applicants - less so if they are Community/Junior college transfers from within California (or, it seems, an illegal).

Hogg would have no trouble getting into California State Universities (as opposed to UC) or many well regarded private colleges. Besides, with his recent virtue signaling I am sure some left-of-center applicant official will immediately forward an offer.
 
maxparrish said:
He was rejected for the reasons Ingraham stated: presumably his school uses the five point scale and a 1270 SAT while very good, is not usually good enough for the UC Campuses he applied to - (and, of course, he is not a minority that contributes to "diversity").

California's UC campuses are very selective of high school applicants - less so if they are Community/Junior college transfers from within California (or, it seems, an illegal).

Hogg would have no trouble getting into California State Universities (as opposed to UC) or many well regarded private colleges. Besides, with his recent virtue signaling I am sure some left-of-center applicant official will immediately forward an offer.
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Exactly my point, While it was a low blow it was not lies or defamation, it was just using facts to make a low blow? Honestly.... Nothing wrong... but like trump kinda of a D!xk head move thats about it?
 
maxparrish said:
He was rejected for the reasons Ingraham stated: presumably his school uses the five point scale and a 1270 SAT while very good, is not usually good enough for the UC Campuses he applied to - (and, of course, he is not a minority that contributes to "diversity").

California's UC campuses are very selective of high school applicants - less so if they are Community/Junior college transfers from within California (or, it seems, an illegal).
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I toured UC Irvine with my kid a couple of weeks ago. I noticed an awful lot of brunettes walking around. I checked the demographics of UCI online:

https://www.collegefactual.com/coll...nt-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
 
maxparrish said:
I do feel sorry for her, but even more so for the populaces declining coherence and rationality. What is becoming "more accepted" is cathartic collective rages (and material harm to "the enemy") as a normal course of business. What is becoming "more accepted" is not a cerebral debate on "Firing Line", or an issue debate in "The advocates" but screaming shout fests, emotional slurs, followed by actions to shut each other down with twitter mobs and boycotts.

I'm far less concerned with an opportune personal snark on character limited twitter, than I am the disintegration into personal destruction.
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Of course.

You present the big picture very well, in my opinion! :thumbs:
 
maxparrish said:
He was rejected for the reasons Ingraham stated: presumably his school uses the five point scale and a 1270 SAT while very good, is not usually good enough for the UC Campuses he applied to - (and, of course, he is not a minority that contributes to "diversity").

California's UC campuses are very selective of high school applicants - less so if they are Community/Junior college transfers from within California (or, it seems, an illegal).

Hogg would have no trouble getting into California State Universities (as opposed to UC) or many well regarded private colleges. Besides, with his recent virtue signaling I am sure some left-of-center applicant official will immediately forward an offer.
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I believe his being a non-resident applicant played the most strongly, though.
 
Rucker61 said:
I toured UC Irvine with my kid a couple of weeks ago. I noticed an awful lot of brunettes walking around. I checked the demographics of UCI online:

https://www.collegefactual.com/coll...nt-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
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Call it generalizing or stereotyping, but there aren't many ethnic groups much bigger on family and education than Asians. And both of those qualities are good precursors to university acceptance.

The Asians in Californian are dominating the entrance process to UC so strongly, that UC was talking about weighting the process against them in order to give others a break! This was around ten years ago, so I don't know if they actually followed through or not.
 
Rucker61 said:
I toured UC Irvine with my kid a couple of weeks ago. I noticed an awful lot of brunettes walking around. I checked the demographics of UCI online:

https://www.collegefactual.com/coll...nt-life/diversity/chart-ethnic-diversity.html
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Irvine Demographics.jpg

Irvine is considered one of the easier campuses to get into, even so once you look at the "diversity" demographics you know that an out-of-state white kid has a low chance. If he were Latino, his chances would have been significantly better.
 
Exactice said:
Why do you ask? What does that matter?

Dont get me wrong, Ingraham, Carlson are all basically opinion bias shows.


But Hogg also got the screen time to denounce firearms violence, WHY can we NOT criticize him for his statements that were not correct or inflammatory ?? Just because he is a teen, just because he was at the school? If his bias is seemingly "BIAS" is it not my right to disagree with him? Mayby Ingraham was a little much we again her SHOW has always been known to be an opinion show.
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Right you are. He's a anti gun teen who was at "the school" backed by anti gun organizations. Yeah he's not getting paid to be biased at all. And you can bet some of the advertisers have CEO's that are anti gun. Me thinks MISTER Hogg dosen't like equal time given or maybe his handlers.
 
maxparrish said:
He was rejected for the reasons Ingraham stated: presumably his school uses the five point scale and a 1270 SAT while very good, is not usually good enough for the UC Campuses he applied to - (and, of course, he is not a minority that contributes to "diversity").

California's UC campuses are very selective of high school applicants - less so if they are Community/Junior college transfers from within California (or, it seems, an illegal).

Hogg would have no trouble getting into California State Universities (as opposed to UC) or many well regarded private colleges. Besides, with his recent virtue signaling I am sure some left-of-center applicant official will immediately forward an offer.
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Public speaking is often good for a few hundred SAT points. A girl I dated in high school got into U of M with average grades only because she regularly gave speeches during leadership conferences. She was actually quite good at it.

Falling on my sword, I sucked at PS until college. Now I do it all the time without issue. But, in high school, I stumbled over my words and could not keep my head from swimming when up on a stage.
 
maxparrish said:
Or just vicious, attempting to destroy someone for a snark.
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Oh, get off it. Ingraham can take a little heat. Bitch is making millions fooling stupid people on Fox.
 
calamity said:
Did you have a 4.1 GPA?
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Did in HS-so what, who has a 4.1 GPA? LI graduated with the credentials to be a supreme court clerk. that's generally a tougher feat than getting a Rhodes Scholarship
 
TurtleDude said:
Did in HS-so what, who has a 4.1 GPA? LI graduated with the credentials to be a supreme court clerk. that's generally a tougher feat than getting a Rhodes Scholarship
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Ingraham has credentials to be Reichts Fuhrer. So what? She got smoked by a high school buck. :lol:
 
TurtleDude said:
Did in HS-so what, who has a 4.1 GPA? LI graduated with the credentials to be a supreme court clerk. that's generally a tougher feat than getting a Rhodes Scholarship
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Okay.
 
TurtleDude said:
Did in HS-so what, who has a 4.1 GPA? LI graduated with the credentials to be a supreme court clerk. that's generally a tougher feat than getting a Rhodes Scholarship
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4.1 out of a possible _____ ? That's not at you.
It's at the snowflake parents, administrators, students, BOE and flakey teachers.
Always been a sore spot with me, 4.3 out of 4.0; universities laugh at that crap; as they recalculate their GPA;
Such as 4.11 out of a possible 4.22; then scale down to 3.90 out of 4.00.

We had to go to the cum laude system when students would take less courses to 'win' valedictorian by 0.001 ...
 
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