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Bernie attends anti gun rally with armed security

Checkerboard Strangler said:
Let's pretend that it wasn't more important, does that still justify some insane demand that he show up with NO protection of any kind whatsoever?
Let's pretend that YOU ARE Bernie Sanders, would YOU show up without security?
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I wouldn't run my mouth if I believed in armed security. Don't get me wrong, Bernie is my man, but even he is human. No?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
A former presidential candidate who received more than his share of death threats FROM right wing whackos employs professional trained security and the Right goes nuts.

Where's the story?
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The hypocrisy. I do not care he has armed security, just don't stop me from using the same tool to protect myself.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Is it an anti-gun rally or an anti-gun-violence rally? There is a difference.
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They are protesting violence committed with ....guns, or else they would rally to ban big bad vans.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Sure he is.
Yes they are. I worked professional security for 7 years. They are civilians.
He isn't a liberal he's a socialist.

Wait a minute... men with guns are protection? So if I buy a gun and receive training I can protect myself? If men with guns can protect Bernie Sanders, i can protect myself with one.

So the only reason Bernie Sanders doesn't get shot is because there are good guys with guns protecting him?

Wow, how incredibly pro gun you are. Do you think that sane reality transfers to anybody else?
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...and women.
 
Lovebug said:
They are protesting violence committed with ....guns, or else they would rally to ban big bad vans.
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I don’t see a problem with that in itself. I mean, when somebody is an activist for finding a cure for cancer do we dismiss them by saying, “what about heart disease?”
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I don’t see a problem with that in itself. I mean, when somebody is an activist for finding a cure for cancer do we dismiss them by saying, “what about heart disease?”
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That is a good point. But I don't think messing with everybody that obeys the law is a good way to effect those that don't.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Your premise is weak, not very many people are calling to disarm all Americans, just the whack jobs who prove routinely that they don't deserve the responsibility.

But I see what you're doing here, so I am clearly wasting my time.
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And in order to disarm the whack jobs they seem to advocate disarming all. Except their bodyguards.
 
Polar Bum said:
Unless his protection detail is Military, yeah....they are.
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I think if politicians did their jobs and not worry about(here a favor there a favor and OMG elections are coming up)what will get them re-elected none of them would need bodyguards.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
What a damn hypocrite. Attends an anti gun rally with armed gaurds. What is with these anti gun politicians, always do as I say, not as I do. Have they no shame? Are their lives more important than yours? That is what their words and deeds say.

Bernie Sanders Called a Hypocrite by Gun-Rights Advocates for Armed Police Guard at Student Walkout

Senator Bernie Sanders joined students participating in a national walkout to protest gun violence outside the Capitol in Washington, D.C., Wednesday. But while his appearance was cheered by those in attendance, it garnered predictable criticism in conservative circles. It was not merely his surprise presence at the event, however, that attracted a backlash but rather the appearance alongside him of multiple armed police officers.
Related: Gun Control Protests Aren't Going Away This Time: More Rallies to Come After National School Walkouts
Videos and photos of the event showed students reacting with frenzied excitement to the arrival of the independent senator from Vermont, who was helped through the mass crowds, shaking hands and greeting protesters, via a police accompaniment.
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The images led to calls of hypocrisy on conservative news sites such as the Daily Caller.

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Ya think?
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Yes, definitely hypocritical of him. Guns are bad, except when they are protecting him. :lol:
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Is it an anti-gun rally or an anti-gun-violence rally? There is a difference.
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Everyone is anti-gun violence.

If its a pro-gun control rally, if the proposed measures are infringements of the 2A, then its an anti-gun rights rally, which also makes it an anti-gun rally.

Also, considering gun violence (if you include suicides) costs ~30k lives/year but gun rights defend lives (according to the CDC) 500k-3million times a year, then the effect of the rally, if measures were adopted, would cause more disarmed victims than lives saved (if any, all proposed measures have been proven by Harvard to have no measurable effect on saving lives, or are even counter-productive)
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Your premise is weak, not very many people are calling to disarm all Americans, just the whack jobs who prove routinely that they don't deserve the responsibility.

But I see what you're doing here, so I am clearly wasting my time.
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Openly doing so would be politically foolish. People still bring up Senator Diane Feinstein's "Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in" statement.

Like a frog to a boiling pot, the incrementalists approach is to turn up the heat slowly, chip away at the 2A, get the reasonable people who would oppose confiscation on your side with the more targetting prohibitions. As people get used to the current limitations, you turn up the heat.

But the fact remains, there are enough open anti-2A types here and out there for us to point to whenever someone tries to claim "no one wants to take all the guns." Yes, many do. They exist by the millions actually.
 
Spartacus FPV said:
Everyone is anti-gun violence.

If its a pro-gun control rally, if the proposed measures are infringements of the 2A, then its an anti-gun rights rally, which also makes it an anti-gun rally.

Also, considering gun violence (if you include suicides) costs ~30k lives/year but gun rights defend lives (according to the CDC) 500k-3million times a year, then the effect of the rally, if measures were adopted, would cause more disarmed victims than lives saved (if any, all proposed measures have been proven by Harvard to have no measurable effect on saving lives, or are even counter-productive)
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Do people in europe not need to defend themselves with a gun 500k - 300 million times?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
A former presidential candidate who received more than his share of death threats FROM right wing whackos employs professional trained security and the Right goes nuts.

Where's the story?
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Its the typical idiotic, right wing non-argument. God, some of these people are so dumb and dishonest. They think they are making a point? Just like the dumb border wall argument that "walls work for our house"

Jesus christ, the stupid is astounding

GUn control doesn't mean no guns anywhere. Bernie does not believe their should be absolutely no guns. Stop with this dishonest stupidity. How about arguing against what liberals actually say, not the stupid made up things fox news tells you liberals say
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Its the typical idiotic, right wing non-argument. God, some of these people are so dumb and dishonest. They think they are making a point? Just like the dumb border wall argument that "walls work for our house"

Jesus christ, the stupid is astounding

GUn control doesn't mean no guns anywhere. Bernie does not believe their should be absolutely no guns. Stop with this dishonest stupidity. How about arguing against what liberals actually say, not the stupid made up things fox news tells you liberals say
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It is amazing that people can not see this.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Private citizens are ALWAYS the perpetrators of criminal attacks
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so cops and politicians and the military have perfect criminal records. And so what-

if criminals obeyed laws we wouldn't have to have cops. Only fools believe that people who disobey laws against murder or robbery will obey a law telling them they cannot have a gun
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Private citizens are ALWAYS the perpetrators of criminal attacks
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Is that so?

Now there is an answer: Police officers are arrested about 1,100 times a year, or roughly three officers charged every day, according to a new national study. The most common crimes were simple assault, drunken driving and aggravated assault, and significant numbers of sex crimes were also found. About 72 percent of officers charged in cases with known outcomes are convicted, more than 40 percent of the crimes are committed on duty, and nearly 95 percent of the officers charged are men.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-arrested-nationwide/?utm_term=.dd89a528f23f
 
Sampson Simpson said:
Private citizens are ALWAYS the perpetrators of criminal attacks
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I guess the final solution and the Armenian genocides were perpetrated by private citizens?
 
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