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The NRA Is Losing

B'smith said:
Do you like this one any better:


"NRA sees a huge surge in membership interest after drawing noisy backlash over Parkland massacre"
NRA sees a huge surge in membership interest after Parkland | Daily Mail Online
EXCERPT "Some otherwise casual gun rights supporters said that the loud attacks on the NRA in the media by young Parkland survivors such as David Hogg drove them to sign up.
'Thank you David Hogg for inspiring me,' one Twitter user wrote. 'I gifted my husband with an NRA membership. I felt now was an important time to support them,' she continued, adding a screenshot of the membership confirmation email."CONTINUED

Maybe you're just wrong in your desperate hope that the NRA is "losing" & the gun bans you support are just around the corner.
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It's the same dubious source regurgitated. Show us actual numbers backing up the claim that NRA membership grew by 10% in less than a month.

It's not believable.
 
calamity said:
It's the same dubious source regurgitated. Show us actual numbers backing up the claim that NRA membership grew by 10% in less than a month.

It's not believable.
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I've posted 2 different, credible sources that would be enough to convince any reasonable person to dismiss your claim that the NRA is losing.
Your opinion is not important enough for me to post a 3rd.

I dare you to show ONE source that claims that NRA membership is falling.
 
B'smith said:
I've posted 2 different, credible sources that would be enough to convince any reasonable person to dismiss your claim that the NRA is losing.
Your opinion is not important enough for me to post a 3rd.

I dare you to show ONE source that claims that NRA membership is falling.
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Their money tree is certainly drying up.
 
calamity said:
It's the same dubious source regurgitated. Show us actual numbers backing up the claim that NRA membership grew by 10% in less than a month.

It's not believable.
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I'm feeling generous today:


"Data Show Highest Interest In NRA Membership"
https://finance.townhall.com/column...w-highest-interest-in-nra-membership-n2456684
EXCERPTS "Look at the data below and you’ll see that after an initial spike in searches about the Florida shooting, after a week that search declined and searches about the NRA increased. Here’s the data:

The recent spike in interest in NRA membership is larger than anything which has ever appeared in the data.
The theory is cross supported by the fact that the searches in regard to NRA membership correlated closely with search terms about buying a gun.

The American people are a surprisingly stubborn lot. We don’t like to be told what to do, and being suspicious by nature, we prize liberties in direct proportion to the intensity of attempts to undermine those particular liberties. This suggests that if such proposals ever broke through and showed real signs of passing gun control, that interest both NRA membership and gun purchases would likely rise dramatically."CONTINUED
 
B'smith said:
I'm feeling generous today:


"Data Show Highest Interest In NRA Membership"
https://finance.townhall.com/column...w-highest-interest-in-nra-membership-n2456684
EXCERPTS "Look at the data below and you’ll see that after an initial spike in searches about the Florida shooting, after a week that search declined and searches about the NRA increased. Here’s the data:

The recent spike in interest in NRA membership is larger than anything which has ever appeared in the data.
The theory is cross supported by the fact that the searches in regard to NRA membership correlated closely with search terms about buying a gun.

The American people are a surprisingly stubborn lot. We don’t like to be told what to do, and being suspicious by nature, we prize liberties in direct proportion to the intensity of attempts to undermine those particular liberties. This suggests that if such proposals ever broke through and showed real signs of passing gun control, that interest both NRA membership and gun purchases would likely rise dramatically."CONTINUED
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"Searches" increased. Whoa...let's hold a parade. Of course searches re NRA increased, they've been in the news for the past 25 days. Hell, a good 5 or 10 of those searches were probably mine. And, I sure as hell did not join.
 
calamity said:
Their money tree is certainly drying up.
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I've just proved that you were wrong about the NRA "losing" so now you're making another mistaken & unverifiable claim.
Lots of people donate to the NRA but don't become members because they don't need a free hat etc. I'm one of those people & I know several others.
Additionally, there are many other less publicized pro 2nd Amendment organizations that account for millions more 2nd Amendment supporters such as "Gun Owners of America".

The reason that gun control is a losing political position is not because of the money donated to pro 2nd Amendment candidates but because 2nd Amendment supporters are diligent voters who ALWAYS show up to vote regardless of the weather, inconvenience etc
 
B'smith said:
I've just proved that you were wrong about the NRA "losing" so now you're making another mistaken & unverifiable claim.
Lots of people donate to the NRA but don't become members because they don't need a free hat etc. I'm one of those people & I know several others.
Additionally, there are many other less publicized pro 2nd Amendment organizations that account for millions more 2nd Amendment supporters such as "Gun Owners of America".

The reason that gun control is a losing political position is not because of the money donated to pro 2nd Amendment candidates but because 2nd Amendment supporters are diligent voters who ALWAYS show up to vote regardless of the weather, inconvenience etc
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Scoreboard: Florida 1, NRA 0
 
PleasantValley said:
Yeah, I figured as much.
To me, though, the NRA is a non-issue.
If they dissolved tomorrow, gun owners would still win and keep winning.
It is the state and local groups that squash the gun grabbing politicians and laws before they get anywhere.
However, usually a portion of the fees collected go to the NRA too. I am good with that.
That is...in those states that support gun rights.
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I personally don't understand the attack on the NRA as if they are doing mass shootings or enabling people to do them. They aren't law enforcement. If they aren't even related to the subject.

Perhaps these people are just using a mass shooting to attack everything to the right of them. I find it rather ghoulish to use the corpses of dead children for political pawns
 
CLAX1911 said:
I personally don't understand the attack on the NRA as if they are doing mass shootings or enabling people to do them. They aren't law enforcement. If they aren't even related to the subject.

Perhaps these people are just using a mass shooting to attack everything to the right of them. I find it rather ghoulish to use the corpses of dead children for political pawns
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Well said. Quoted for truth.
 
The Daily Beastiality says the NRA is losing and we're supposed to believe? Not!
 
apdst said:
The Daily Beastiality says the NRA is losing and we're supposed to believe? Not!
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How about the Washington Post? They say that roughly 51% of households owned at least one firearm on Jan '78. Jun '16 roughly 36%. Looks like a loss to me... :roll:

Now the NRA hasn't confirmed the increase in membership but let's pretend it is 100% accurate. This means roughly 10% of the firearm owning households have an NRA member- roughly 55 million households own a firearm and 5 million NRA members. Not exactly impressive numbers... :roll:

For the cost of one person's meal at Applebee's the Constitution loving 'gun' rubber can show their solidarity with the NRA for a year. (and get a really cool hat you'll never wear) I have a pile of them in my closet.

So the question is, if it costs so little and the ardent 'gun' rubbers believe the NRA is soooo vital to 'protecting' the 2ndA why so few firearm owners actual members??? :confused:

Ponying up 30 bucks for membership is one thing, but the real test will be how many of those late joiners will send in checks at every shrill call from the ILA/NRA? Lobbyist's 3 grand suits require many Applebee's meals to be skipped... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
How about the Washington Post? They say that roughly 51% of households owned at least one firearm on Jan '78. Jun '16 roughly 36%. Looks like a loss to me... :roll:

Now the NRA hasn't confirmed the increase in membership but let's pretend it is 100% accurate. This means roughly 10% of the firearm owning households have an NRA member- roughly 55 million households own a firearm and 5 million NRA members. Not exactly impressive numbers... :roll:

For the cost of one person's meal at Applebee's the Constitution loving 'gun' rubber can show their solidarity with the NRA for a year. (and get a really cool hat you'll never wear) I have a pile of them in my closet.

So the question is, if it costs so little and the ardent 'gun' rubbers believe the NRA is soooo vital to 'protecting' the 2ndA why so few firearm owners actual members??? :confused:

Ponying up 30 bucks for membership is one thing, but the real test will be how many of those late joiners will send in checks at every shrill call from the ILA/NRA? Lobbyist's 3 grand suits require many Applebee's meals to be skipped... :peace
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Those are bull**** stats because there's no way to know what households own guns and what households don't.
 
jet57 said:
Yeah it's not strong enough on its own merits and the founders were just messin around; sure, whatever you say. We need the NRA to tel what it really means.
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well what it means is almost guaranteed to be exact opposite as the tripe you spew about it
 
calamity said:
The public is smart enough to see that we have a problem with gun violence in the US.
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you don't care about that-you're mad that the NRA helped elect Trump. So stop the crocodile tear nonsense
 
KevinKohler said:
Which shootings?

Citation?
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He's lying because over 80% of all gunshot murders are perpetrated by people who were not legally able to own firearms at the time they killed. And you violate the law if you have a clean record but you buy a firearm for the purpose of using it illegally.
 
apdst said:
Those are bull**** stats because there's no way to know what households own guns and what households don't.
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So how do you know 500,000 joined the NRA??? ;)

Now I didn't say I could tell you which home has a firearm now did I??? I simply said the number of households and adults...

How about the Pew Research Center Feb 2013- 37% of adults live in a household with a firearm. 24% say they own a firearm. 58% say they don't own a firearm.

Gallup poll 2011- 47% of adults report a firearm in their home.

Gallup poll 2000 34% own a firearm.

There are roughly 250 million citizens over 18 so let's say 117 million Americans have a firearm in their home, 85 million own at least one firearm (see how math works???)

So why only 5 million are NRA members? Roughly 85 million own at least one firearm but only 6% pay dues to the NRA... :peace
 
TurtleDude said:
you don't care about that-you're mad that the NRA helped elect Trump. So stop the crocodile tear nonsense
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Well to be fair the NRA tried twice to block Obama and failed so to claim the NRA was much of a help with Trump might be a bit of stolen valor... :peace
 
Rucker61 said:
Even the NRA can't make the list of the top 50 donors to politicians.
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Don't got to be top, just highly selective and very good at targeting... ;)

let us not forget they don't have to just finance their guy but help smear the other guy and the NRA is pretty good with mud... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
So how do you know 500,000 joined the NRA??? ;)

Now I didn't say I could tell you which home has a firearm now did I??? I simply said the number of households and adults...

How about the Pew Research Center Feb 2013- 37% of adults live in a household with a firearm. 24% say they own a firearm. 58% say they don't own a firearm.

Gallup poll 2011- 47% of adults report a firearm in their home.

Gallup poll 2000 34% own a firearm.

There are roughly 250 million citizens over 18 so let's say 117 million Americans have a firearm in their home, 85 million own at least one firearm (see how math works???)

So why only 5 million are NRA members? Roughly 85 million own at least one firearm but only 6% pay dues to the NRA... :peace
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There is no way that those numbers are credible.
 
notquiteright said:
Don't got to be top, just highly selective and very good at targeting... ;)

let us not forget they don't have to just finance their guy but help smear the other guy and the NRA is pretty good with mud... :peace
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Actually, to win red voters they just have to point out that the Democrat is antigun.
 
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