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Condi Rice stuns the view audience with story about 2nd Amendment

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“Let me tell you why I’m a defender of the Second Amendment,” she began.

“I was a little girl growing up in Birmingham, Alabama, in the late fifties, early sixties,” she explained. “There was no way that Bull Connor and the Birmingham Police were going to protect you.”

“And so when White Knight Riders would come through our neighborhood,” she said, “my father and his friends would take their guns and they’d go to the head of the neighborhood, it’s a little cul-de-sac and they would fire in the air, if anybody came through.”

“I don’t think they actually ever hit anybody,” she continued. “But they protected the neighborhood. And I’m sure if Bull Connor had known where those guns were he would have rounded them up.”

“And so, I don’t favor some things like gun registration,” she said to a suddenly silent crowd.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/...with-amazing-story-about-2nd-amendment-rights


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This is what our Second Amendment defends:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.



We should not have security problems in our free States.
 
danielpalos said:
This is what our Second Amendment defends:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.



We should not have security problems in our free States.
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What security problems are you talking about? We are not currently being invaded.
 
It's a powerful story.

I do question how factually accurate it is. I tend to question any politician that pulls out on of these childhood memories that fit to perfect into a political position.
 
I'm glad they cut the video off when Goldie started talking about what "most NRA members...". I don't think she has any idea or knowledge about NRA members.
 
I know I am a bit paranoid however I do not want the government to know what guns I have or how many.

I sold guns for many years however out of all my guns only one has a yellow sheet behind it..

It was just a movie but I was in the military when Red Dawn came out.

The first thing the Russians did when they invaded was to look up firearm ownership records and go door to door confiscating them.

The way Russia has proven they can hack or records I'm willing to bet they already have gun ownership records.

The Brady bill and the "Patriot" act were two of the biggest steps backwards this country has taken and we are now weakend to the point we can be taken down from within.
 
GDViking said:
I know I am a bit paranoid however I do not want the government to know what guns I have or how many.

I sold guns for many years however out of all my guns only one has a yellow sheet behind it..

It was just a movie but I was in the military when Red Dawn came out.

The first thing the Russians did when they invaded was to look up firearm ownership records and go door to door confiscating them.

The way Russia has proven they can hack or records I'm willing to bet they already have gun ownership records.

The Brady bill and the "Patriot" act were two of the biggest steps backwards this country has taken and we are now weakend to the point we can be taken down from within.
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Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and regulate them well! Well regulated militia are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.
 
danielpalos said:
Don't grab guns, grab gun lovers and regulate them well! Well regulated militia are declared Necessary to the security of a free State.
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I live in the middle of nowhere, I rarely get phone reception without going outside, and even if I could get a 911 call it will be over twenty minutes before LE could arrive.

Our militia is my 14 year old daughter and myself. She has been taught that out here 911 is for when the shooting is over.
 
KLATTU said:
“Let me tell you why I’m a defender of the Second Amendment,” she began.

“I was a little girl growing up in Birmingham, Alabama, in the late fifties, early sixties,” she explained. “There was no way that Bull Connor and the Birmingham Police were going to protect you.”

“And so when White Knight Riders would come through our neighborhood,” she said, “my father and his friends would take their guns and they’d go to the head of the neighborhood, it’s a little cul-de-sac and they would fire in the air, if anybody came through.”

“I don’t think they actually ever hit anybody,” she continued. “But they protected the neighborhood. And I’m sure if Bull Connor had known where those guns were he would have rounded them up.”

“And so, I don’t favor some things like gun registration,” she said to a suddenly silent crowd.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/...with-amazing-story-about-2nd-amendment-rights


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That story sounds like bull****, in that time if black people had guns and shot them off, the cops would come and put them in jail. The cops were not just protecting them, they were attacking and arresting black people as well. They were part of the people in that group coming after black people. THey defended these people.

Just like today if a black man walks around with an AR-15 he is immediately questioned and arrested by cops, while white people can walk around willy nilly without police treating them like a criminal.

A mic drop occurs when you actually make a sound argument. Telling an anecdotal (probably BS) story and then saying this is why I support the second amendment and am against gun registries without any reasoning is not providing an argument.

And the "I support the 2nd amendment" as the entire basis of an argument is stupid. So do liberals, because the second amendment has a "well regulated" clause in it, and it doesn't say what infringed and arms means, so you can be for background checks, other gun control measures and still be for the gun.

God damn, why are so many people incapable of actually making an argument. Actually, I think I know, they are dead wrong and have nothing to actually argue their case, so just rely on talking points and deflections
 
Sampson Simpson said:
That story sounds like bull****, in that time if black people had guns and shot them off, the cops would come and put them in jail. The cops were not just protecting them, they were attacking and arresting black people as well. They were part of the people in that group coming after black people. THey defended these people.

Just like today if a black man walks around with an AR-15 he is immediately questioned and arrested by cops, while white people can walk around willy nilly without police treating them like a criminal.

A mic drop occurs when you actually make a sound argument. Telling an anecdotal (probably BS) story and then saying this is why I support the second amendment and am against gun registries without any reasoning is not providing an argument.

And the "I support the 2nd amendment" as the entire basis of an argument is stupid. So do liberals, because the second amendment has a "well regulated" clause in it, and it doesn't say what infringed and arms means, so you can be for background checks, other gun control measures and still be for the gun.

God damn, why are so many people incapable of actually making an argument. Actually, I think I know, they are dead wrong and have nothing to actually argue their case, so just rely on talking points and deflections
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You should contact Ms Rice and tell her you know more about being Black in the South in the 60s than she does.
 
I'll buy Condi Rice's story whole, but that doesn't change the fact that she's using it to defend something ridiculous, namely the notion that we're about to lose the 2A to a bunch of "librul gun grabbers" who "want to take away everyone's guns".

That's a fringe idea, screeched about by fringe gun nuts and advanced by fringe lefties.
Most liberals just want some regulations, let the gun owners keep their guns, as long as they're not lunatics.
If that means one or two hosts on The View are fringe lefty gun grabbers who "want to take away everyone's guns", then that just means that one or two hosts on The View are "fringe lefty gun grabbers who want to take away everyone's guns".

It does NOT mean that those hosts on The View speak for all liberals, or even most of them.
It's The View, a TV show, a daytime TV talk show, and I am taking the viewer demographic into account.

Yes, Bull Connor was everything Condi Rice probably described, and if you know your history, you know she's probably not exaggerating. And yes, it is not surprising that there were black heads of households who stuck themselves out there with their shotguns at the sign of Connor's gendarmerie.
Most of them got a flaming cross placed in their yard or got their homes burned down, but a few managed to get lucky, and I suspect that Condi Rice had a relatively safe upbringing in a neighborhood "slightly" more upscale than the dirt floor wood shacks found in some parts of Deep South black neighborhoods.
Her father was Dean of Students at Stillman College, and her mother was a science teacher.
That's not as easy a target as some poor sharecroppers out in the woods. Titusville was a relatively upper middle class neighborhood.

If anything, Condi's father might have been one of the few people who could get away with pulling such a stunt.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'll buy Condi Rice's story whole, but that doesn't change the fact that she's using it to defend something ridiculous, namely the notion that we're about to lose the 2A to a bunch of "librul gun grabbers" who "want to take away everyone's guns".
That's a fringe idea, screeched about by fringe gun nuts and advanced by fringe lefties.
Most liberals just want some regulations, let the gun owners keep their guns, as long as they're not lunatics.
If that means one or two hosts on The View are fringe lefty gun grabbers who "want to take away everyone's guns", then that just means that one or two hosts on The View are "fringe lefty gun grabbers who want to take away everyone's guns".

It does NOT mean that those hosts on The View speak for all liberals, or even most of them.
It's The View, a TV show, a daytime TV talk show, and I am taking the viewer demographic into account.
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Attempting to take away any guns from law abiding citizens is the issue, and that's a very real threat.
 
Sampson Simpson said:
That story sounds like bull****, in that time if black people had guns and shot them off, the cops would come and put them in jail. The cops were not just protecting them, they were attacking and arresting black people as well. They were part of the people in that group coming after black people. THey defended these people.

Just like today if a black man walks around with an AR-15 he is immediately questioned and arrested by cops, while white people can walk around willy nilly without police treating them like a criminal.

A mic drop occurs when you actually make a sound argument. Telling an anecdotal (probably BS) story and then saying this is why I support the second amendment and am against gun registries without any reasoning is not providing an argument.

And the "I support the 2nd amendment" as the entire basis of an argument is stupid. So do liberals, because the second amendment has a "well regulated" clause in it, and it doesn't say what infringed and arms means, so you can be for background checks, other gun control measures and still be for the gun.

God damn, why are so many people incapable of actually making an argument. Actually, I think I know, they are dead wrong and have nothing to actually argue their case, so just rely on talking points and deflections
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So if you believe that the powers that be at that time would have quickly confiscated legally owned firearms if they were aware of the wrong color people owning them, why would you support registration of all firearms?

Maybe next time you will be the wrong color...

The government will never know what or how many guns I own.
 
GDViking said:
So if you believe that the powers that be at that time would have quickly confiscated legally owned firearms if they were aware of the wrong color people owning them, why would you support registration of all firearms?

Maybe next time you will be the wrong color...

The government will never know what or how many guns I own.
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The government likely didn't know what or how many guns Mr. Rice owned either but if you think that would stop a racist lawman from trying to confiscate them, you're not the wrong color, you're the wrong person to discuss this with, LOL.

Fighting "the US Government" with your stash of guns? Really? Seriously?
You guys keep talking about fixing the mental health problem. We should. We should also fix the racism problem, and we DID back then, by SENDING the Federal Government DOWN to the Deep South to ENFORCE Civil Rights laws, and to punish racist law enforcement who refused to deal with their own.
The men who killed those three college voter registration activists were convicted of violating their civil rights. The men who bombed that church in Birmingham were only convicted because of federal efforts, otherwise they would have skated.

If "the US Government" gets so nuts that they decide to come for everyone's guns, they'll just toss a mortar into your house, into every house where they think gun owners live.
Your little stash of guns won't have any effect on that, or on an airstrike.

So, let's be realistic here. I'm trying to be when I say that most people just want to get a handle on controlling the lunatics. They don't want to take away guns from normal people.

You're talking to me like I'm "another lefty liberal gun grabber"...it doesn't seem to matter what I say. It's like I am talking to a brick wall. What else is new...

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-control/312415-charlize-theron-idiot-post1068304827.html#post1068304827
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
The government likely didn't know what or how many guns Mr. Rice owned either but if you think that would stop a racist lawman from trying to confiscate them, you're not the wrong color, you're the wrong person to discuss this with, LOL.

Fighting "the US Government" with your stash of guns? Really? Seriously?
You guys keep talking about fixing the mental health problem. We should. We should also fix the racism problem, and we DID back then, by SENDING the Federal Government DOWN to the Deep South to ENFORCE Civil Rights laws, and to punish racist law enforcement who refused to deal with their own.
The men who killed those three college voter registration activists were convicted of violating their civil rights. The men who bombed that church in Birmingham were only convicted because of federal efforts, otherwise they would have skated.

If "the US Government" gets so nuts that they decide to come for everyone's guns, they'll just toss a mortar into your house, into every house where they think gun owners live.
Your little stash of guns won't have any effect on that, or on an airstrike.

So, let's be realistic here. I'm trying to be when I say that most people just want to get a handle on controlling the lunatics. They don't want to take away guns from normal people.

You're talking to me like I'm "another lefty liberal gun grabber"...it doesn't seem to matter what I say. It's like I am talking to a brick wall. What else is new...

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-...eron-idiot-post1068304827.html#post1068304827
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You ever met someone who was immune to rifle fire?

BTW the leaders of the Dem party is chock full of people who want to ban or confiscate firearms. Their hatred of conservative gun owners is pathological
 
Rucker61 said:
You should contact Ms Rice and tell her you know more about being Black in the South in the 60s than she does.
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You are assuming she's telling the truth. Maybe you can pick up a history book of the south during that time and you would see the story is suspect. Or better yet, take some debate classes so you can actually make an argument instead of embarrassing yourself
 
GDViking said:
So if you believe that the powers that be at that time would have quickly confiscated legally owned firearms if they were aware of the wrong color people owning them, why would you support registration of all firearms?

Maybe next time you will be the wrong color...

The government will never know what or how many guns I own.
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What does this have to do with anything I've said?

This isn't the 60's where black people were systematically discriminated against, were beaten and killed. This isnt' 1940s germany. If you own a gun, it should be registered, and a ballistic test. So if your gun is used in the crime, one will know. That would make people a lot more vigilant on how they handle their guns. This isn't about making a list then targeting them. That's just fear mongering nonsense people try to argue because they don't have any rational reasons to oppose it. THey have to make up fictitious scenarios and slippery slope arguments with no basis in reality.

You telling me a black person in the deep south in the 60s who pulled a gun out on white folks wouldn't be arrested or harassed by the cops? I never said their gun confiscated, you made that up. Likely a hell of a lot worse would happen. Do people know nothing of history of this country? Or you just believe the white washed, sugar coated nonsense?
 
Sampson Simpson said:
You are assuming she's telling the truth. Maybe you can pick up a history book of the south during that time and you would see the story is suspect. Or better yet, take some debate classes so you can actually make an argument instead of embarrassing yourself
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I lived in the South during the 60s and 70s. You're assuming that history books capture every event, and that every event followed the narrative.

If you're calling Ms Rice a liar, please have the courtesy to do so to her face, so to speak. Otherwise, you're just acting like a cad.
 
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