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What we learned from Parkland-it's not good.

straykatz said:
1st you would have to believe you can pull the trigger to main/kill another person. Personally, I do not believe I could but really don't know. I'm sure there are other citizens who feel the same way. Doesn't make someone like me bad or cowardly...just means we don't believe we are capable of killing another person. Honestly....I'm pretty sure I would panic ... and pray I never have to find out one way or the other.
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And afterwards, seeing all of the dead children laying around knowing that you had a gun, would you wish you had used it? And how would you feel if you were a child watching your friends getting gunned down knowing that an adult had a pistol but realized they couldn't use it...what would you think of that adult?
 
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holbritter said:
While I agree Peterson, a 33 year veteran of the department, did not do his job, you or I do not know what was going through his mind. I haven't seen any pictures of him yet, is he fat? Is he lazy?
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I found a pic of him:

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I'm 71 years old and in very good physical shape. I just had my yearly checkup and my doctor says If he didn't know me he would guess I was about 50. I went to Planet Fitness yesterday and a guy walking by while I was pumping a nautilus machine dropped face first to the floor. It was early and there were just two kids in there running the place. I was useless to the guy because I don't know CPR. One of the kids got one of those electrical paddle devices shocked and him because he definitely wasn't breathing. It brought his breathing back. But he was gone in every other way. I should know CPR and so should everyone else.

I haven't held or fired a gun since Vietnam and even though I was trained with an M-16 all I had back then was a 45 caliber automatic pistol because I was in a radar unit. The 45 was so powerful that it lifted my hand and arm every time I fired it and accuracy was a joke.

Next week I am signing up for a CPR course and I am also joining a local gun club where I can rent firearms and learn to use them. I feel I need to do this because the world we live is very different from the world we grew up in. I don't want to just stand around when things go bad if I am the only thing between a bad guy and a victim. I support police and respect them as a whole but I may need to act to protect innocent people if there is no other choice.

I will put my life on the line to save kids. Bank on it
 
Deuce said:
I think it's impractical to teach a football coach or history teacher to handle a gun as effectively as a police officer. (because then they will no longer adequately perform their core function). Teachers tend to be underpaid and overworked as it is, asking this of them is.... lunacy.

You want more armed security in schools? Hire more police officers.
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Sorry, but what is 'lunacy' is the argument that someone cannot be a teacher or a coach AND be proficient at handling a weapon. But if you prefer police on duty at every school to armed civilians, I have no problem with that.
 
Ray9 said:
Scot Peterson, the Florida campus cop who cowered outside the building with other cops while students died just sent a message to all potential mass shooters: the cops will wait until the shooting stops because they might be outgunned just like Columbine. This raises a perplexing question: If the cops just stand there figuring out if they are outgunned, why are they there collecting a paycheck in the first place? Even the local good humor man can just sit on his ass while kids die but he is not paid by the state to protect them.

It’s pretty obvious that Peterson was just a lazy state employee cashing in on a cushy state job paid for by local taxpayers. When he was urgently needed to save lives, he swung into action and did nothing so he could protect what was really important-his state pension which he earned risking his life probably by eating a double cheeseburger and choking on the pickle.

While it’s unlikely Peterson could have saved all those kids he might have been able to save a few just by distracting the shooter but we’ll never know because Peterson acted on his own behalf to save his own skin. Like a lot of state employees, Peterson is the closest thing in nature to an immovable object so it is all but impossible to fire him which is why he chose to retire with a full pension paid for with the tax money of the grieving parents.

As the public has come to expect the media has jumped into the fray defending Peterson as a hero deserving of a Profile in Courage award for allowing the carnage to go uninterrupted. Peterson can now be crafted into poster boy against the National Rifle Association. As with a lot of the liberal media’s heroes that lay the foundation for the moral decay of our society, it wouldn’t be surprising if Peterson already has a book deal pending.

Peterson is a fat, lazy state hack but he is not the only reason seventeen people died in a public school of all places. There were warning signs everywhere with the mass killer including his own statements to just about anyone who would listen including the FBI that was apparently too busy interfering in the selection process of the next president.

Have we learned anything from this? Don’t hold your breath.
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Mush of what you have posted is opinion, unverified and libelous slander.

You cannot possibly know what another person was thinking in a life and death situation....even if you have been in one yourself.

IF, it is true he cowered outside, then he must be suspended pending review of the actions and a psychological evaluation. IF he has said police wouldn't go in until the shooting stops then he needs to be tried for gross negligence causing death, failure to exercise his sworn duty and made into a poster boy for what police should never do.

From here, I have images of cops shooting unarmed suspects, from which they escape without a reprimand, and this other side of the coin, an armed officer of the law who did nothing....

If that's American justice you're all ****ed
 
JC Callender said:
And afterwards, seeing all of the dead children laying around knowing that you had a gun, would you wish you had used it? And how would you feel if you were a child watching your friends getting gunned down knowing that an adult had a pistol but realized they couldn't use it...what would you think of that adult?
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I don't know what I would think since I've not been in that position....easy to assume I will do one thing but no way of truly knowing...but I do believe I would not blame anyone not capable of shooting another person. I don't think it's as simple as you make it to be. Taking another person's life is not something the average person can do and I certainly don't think teachers should be made responsible or held accountable for protecting their classroom with a gun. There has to be a better way.
 
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