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The kids are taking a stand!

I think that it's more like these kids are being told what to say and do. The day the shooting happened you could tell a lot of the kids were being coached what to say by the gun grabbers.

Lotta gun grabbers in Florida, and they have access to those students? How do you see that happening, busloads of SJW's heading out from California with the last shot still echoing in the school hallway, and spreading out through the neighborhoods, going door-to-door with printed scripts to coach the students with?
Jesus. Is that the best delusion on the 'price-reduced' table.
 
Yet seventeen of them were just shot to death with a gun. What a stupid thing to say.

Show me any one of these kids being afraid to walk to school for fear of getting hit by a stray bullet or a drive-by shooting...every day of the week. If you can, then yeah...I'll concede that they know about gun violence.
 
Especially when right-wing losers like Tomi Lahren thing guns aren't the issue.
So then what you are saying is that the gun walked into the school all by it's self and pulled the trigger it's self.
 
I'm thinking BS.

I'm thinking those vocal kids were too busy with their social life than with worrying about black kids in Chicago getting shot walking down the street by drug dealers.

BS is all those can say who cannot defend their position ...
 
I represented the 180,000 public school students in the entire state of Hawai'i when I was 17 and 18 years old (my senior year as a "high school kid") as the only student member on the state Board of Education. I chaired committees. I drafted policy. I personally had fifteen statewide policies that I wrote passed by committee, passed by the full BOE, and promulgated by the state superintendent and his Department of Education. I wrote three pieces of legislation (that were significantly modified by lawyers, but the intent of the laws never changed) that made it through the committee processes of both houses of the Hawai'i State Legislature, were passed by both houses of the legislature, and were signed into law by the governor of Hawai'i. To this day (it wasn't that long ago), my policies and legislation affect, control, and benefit, in my opinion, the lives of every single one of the 1.4 million residents of the state. Any "adult" who discounts the intelligence and dedication of young people has probably already lobotomized themselves.

I'm sure that was a good PR program they ran for some nice image benefits. There is a reason why kids can't do things like drink alcohol, rent cars, ect...because their brains aren't fully developed. Again, anyone who abdicates their own intellect to listen to high school kids should lobotomize themselves.
 
I'm sure that was a good PR program they ran for some nice image benefits. There is a reason why kids can't do things like drink alcohol, rent cars, ect...because their brains aren't fully developed. Again, anyone who abdicates their own intellect to listen to high school kids should lobotomize themselves.

You don't teach those AP Chem and Physics students with 1400 SAT scores as I continue to do in retirement.
Our students are the 'wind of change' in this Century ...
 
Only because people we refuse to let our rights be taken away

What about innocent people's right not to be shot?

The right not to get shot is rooted in physical security.

Just as every innocent person has the right to not get shot, tortured, assaulted, or raped.

So I said it: The right to not get shot requires the limitation of gun ownership.

You have some give and take here. Your right cannot trump another right.

These brave kids are standing up to people who think the killing of innocent civilians is justified in the name of gun rights. In that sense gun zealots are similar to religious extremists who do things in the name of God, Allah, etc...
 
Originally Posted by Vox View Post
These are "Face in the Phone" children with zero understanding of the issue except "guns are bad."

They're not just young, they're brainless twits.

They have the attention span of gnats and are just as significant.

They'll be back to Snapchiting each other about the latest fashion in a few days.
"Originally Posted by KevinKohler
I think you're wrong.
I think they're wrong, too. But I think you're wrong about them.
Right now they are doing what's in vogue because they think it's expected of them. Vox nailed it.
 
What about innocent people's right not to be shot?

The right not to get shot is rooted in physical security.

Just as every innocent person has the right to not get shot, tortured, assaulted, or raped.

So I said it: The right to not get shot requires the limitation of gun ownership.

You have some give and take here. Your right cannot trump another right.

These brave kids are standing up to people who think the killing of innocent civilians is justified in the name of gun rights. In that sense gun zealots are similar to religious extremists who do things in the name of God, Allah, etc...

There is no such thing as "the right not to get shot", there is a right to life and anyone who violates that is punished accordingly

The only zealot here is you, you use a tragedy to push your anti-gun propaganda. You should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously dude go take some time to evaluate what you have done here because its just sickening
 
There is no such thing as "the right not to get shot", there is a right to life and anyone who violates that is punished accordingly

The only zealot here is you, you use a tragedy to push your anti-gun propaganda. You should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously dude go take some time to evaluate what you have done here because its just sickening

Actually there is a right to not get a shot.

One thing is certain however. The Constitution says NOTHING about an individuals right to own a gun.
 
Survivors Of The Florida School Shooting Organize D.C. March



These high school kids understand more about gun violence and the dangerous element within the NRA than the Harvard-educated gun supporters.

Those like Ted Cruz and Rick Scott are on the losing side of this issue. At this point, they are too scared to even discuss the subject.

IMO cowardly. When communities are being killed and shot up, they won't tolerate the NRA bs anymore.

Kids need to learn about guns and the laws that already there


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Too bad that all they are doing is parroting the left's political lines and positions, so they won't garner any more a solution or any more a constructive discussion than what has come before on those basis.

This position of "you’re either with us or against us" isn't going to lead to more solutions or constructive discussion, and in fact actually hinders them.

Also noted as false is the assumption that just because someone experienced those circumstances that they somehow have more expertise than people who have made careers in researching and studying these issues.

While I'm glad that these kids are going to be taking an active participation role in politics and public policy, I think they need to learn a lot more before taking this active participation role.
Im not taking marching orders from a group of tramuatized 14yr olds nor am i going to allow myself to be emotionally blackmailed into doing something harmful to society.

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Kids need to learn about guns and the laws that already there

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These kids are taking a brave stand and refuse to stand by and being another statistic. As a society we deserve better than having to worry about getting a phone call that your son or daughter has been shot to death because of faulty gun laws.
 
Especially when right-wing losers like Tomi Lahren thing guns aren't the issue.
Is it just her thats the loser or is everyone that disagrees with you a loser. Why did you single her out. Am i loser too, because i believe soft targets contribute more to these mass killings than the guns do?

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=Bucky;1068191304]I completely disagree.
Well Bucky,if someone said the sun rises in the East you would disagree.
The brainless twits exist in the NRA who keep saying crap like people kill people guns don't people.
They are right. God help us if we get smart guns.
One of the most idiotic arguments I hear is, "I don't care if more guns lead to higher suicides. You killing yourself has no bearing on my life."
Suicide is the highest rate. Are we all deemed to be suicidal tell proven different?
Again, completely misguided. Do they realize these shooters kill other people before they commit suicide?
Your talking about shooters eating a bullet. The idea is to get them to so they can't kill anymore.
 
And everyone who's child did not survive should be outraged that so many knew h was a ticking bomb and said nothing.
It never stops amazing me how many people want to put their welfare into an entity (gov) tjat absolves itself of accountability when it fails to live up to the expectations they set for themselves

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Is it just her thats the loser or is everyone that disagrees with you a loser. Why did you single her out. Am i loser too, because i believe soft targets contribute more to these mass killings than the guns do?

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It really takes a committed zealot to attack victims of gun violence.

When you have Republicans get shot up in a baseball field, and that still doesn't change their perspective on life, that just shows what type of people you are dealing with. I think a Christian has a better chance of reaching a member of ISIS than a supporter of gun control trying to reach a member of the NRA.
 
I think that it's more like these kids are being told what to say and do. The day the shooting happened you could tell a lot of the kids were being coached what to say by the gun grabbers.

Prove it.
 
It really takes a committed zealot to attack victims of gun violence.

When you have Republicans get shot up in a baseball field, and that still doesn't change their perspective on life, that just shows what type of people you are dealing with. I think a Christian has a better chance of reaching a member of ISIS than a supporter of gun control trying to reach a member of the NRA.
Who attacked the victims?

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From day one they were just a little to articulate on the subject. Yeah they were parroting and coached.

Too articulate? They're high schoolers, not infants. Some of them are getting ready to go to college. Some of them are probably getting ready to go to Ivy League colleges. They're not idiots; and they don't have to be told what to say in order to sound intelligent, even if you don't like what they're saying.
 
These are "Face in the Phone" children with zero understanding of the issue except "guns are bad."

They're not just young, they're brainless twits.

They have the attention span of gnats and are just as significant.

They'll be back to Snapchiting each other about the latest fashion in a few days.

Please stop that. These kids speak out of grief, they lash out against something and anything to cope. Please stop.
 
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