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Nope, they're illegal in California.
"scary"; right, sure, whatever you say
Isn't that law on hold right now?
Nope, they're illegal in California.
"scary"; right, sure, whatever you say
given our rights and our freedoms what exactly do you think should be done?
Do you see anyone here defending Trump's claims?
Keep your guns on your side of the border, again Canada and Mexico do not have a second amendment and I don't think most Canadians and Mexicans want these guns there. Do American freedoms trump Canadian sovereignty, most Canadians do not want these guns in our country, is that irrelevant? Does ''American freedom'' make the sovereignty of other countries irrelevant?
If Trump gets to blame Mexico for contraband coming in to US, then Canada, Mexico and other neighboring countries get to blame the US for contraband going into their countries from the US?
Isn't that law on hold right now?
He's the President and most conservatives I see seem to love him and buy his claims that Mexico is solely responsible for the drug trade across the border. If people here want to distance themselves from that, well then they can declare it, I can't assume that conservatives here don't disagree with Trump on this issue (Which makes it a double standard to say US guns going into Canada and Mexico are their problem).
Not that I'm aware of. They've been illegal for a long time; and why would anybody really need a 15 round clip? Or a 30 for that matter?
I don't think our government helps illegal gun running into other nations (at least not now)
as to illegal drugs, I don't think Mexico makes much effort to stop the exportation of narcotics
C'mon. Mexico doesn't help illegal drug running into other nations, and the US doesn't make much effort to stop the exportation of guns, either. I personally don't buy the arguments about the US and gun smuggling in this thread but don't make such logical fallacies. There's much simpler ways to make your point.
deep down I see a pattern. Gun owners were a major reason why Trump won the election. Those upset with that win often blame gun owners in general and the NRA specifically for the outcome of the 2016 election that they didn't like. This seems to be the case here. I blame Americans who buy and sell drugs. Not the Mexicans. If we didn't have a demand for it here, they wouldn't have a market. Our stupid drug laws create the demand as well. Stupid gun laws in canada are a problem up there
If Canadian gun laws are the problem, why aren't more Canadian guns used more often in Canadian crimes? Are you saying Canada would have less gun crime if it had its own second amendment?
Not that I'm aware of. They've been illegal for a long time; and why would anybody really need a 15 round clip? Or a 30 for that matter?
you completely ducked my question. Its illegal to run guns across the border.
try again
there would be less guns illegally flowing across the border I suspect.
Okay, then what do you suggest be done to stop gun smuggling? You talk about freedom, but you never seem to talk about responsibility. If you are just going to say every suggestion I have is somehow morally invalid and offer no solutions of your own, you offer nothing. A neighbor does not have the right to dump his trash on his neighbor's lawn, if you make the guns, you have a responsibility to keep them out of countries that do not want them, if guns are so easily to acquired by these smugglers, that seems failure on the US' part.
I think if the shoe was on the other foot, a lot of Americans would be mad at Canada if most guns used in crimes came from Canada, many Americans would be mad at Canada.
What responsibility do American citizens have to prevent criminals from smuggling guns into Canada?
there would be less guns illegally flowing across the border I suspect.
What responsibility do American citizens have to prevent criminals from smuggling guns into Canada?
Would there be less gun violence though? Canada has far less gun violence then the US and most of the guns used by criminals in Canada, come from the US.
Also, do Trump supporters think personal responsibility does not apply to them, because it seems like most of them disagree with your opinions on the cross border drug trade and solely blame Mexico for it. I think for most conservatives, personal responsibility is something that only applies to others.
I think if you make something you should responsible for ensuring it is not used for criminal purposes, IMO. No law abiding citizen in Canada is asking for these guns to be here and if this were strictly a Canadian problem, why don't criminals use Canadian guns instead, when committing crimes in Canada?
If drugs were legal in the US there'd be less drugs flowing across that southern border.
Should the Mexican government take steps to stop the flow of drugs into the US?
I think if you make something you should responsible for ensuring it is not used for criminal purposes, IMO. No law abiding citizen in Canada is asking for these guns to be here and if this were strictly a Canadian problem, why don't criminals use Canadian guns instead, when committing crimes in Canada?
your silly stereotypes of "Trump supporters" are neither supported by facts nor attributable to me, and as such, have no relevance here.
Really, you don't think most Trump supporters don't blame Mexico for the cross border drug trade, news to me, how many of them would disagree with Trump's statements on the matter:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ents-connecting-mexican-immigrants-and-crime/
If that's not your opinion, fine, but if you are a Trump supporter, that is the company you keep. Which means there is a double standard at play here, where contraband coming from the US into other countries is the fault of those other countries, but the US is blameless when it comes to contraband coming out of the US into these other countries. It seems like a lot of Trump supporters want it both ways.
There aren't much gun making in Canada. I shot a para-ord 45 frame to make USPSA ltd Master. It was made in Canada. The company later located to the USA. off the top of my head, that's the only Canadian made modern gun I can think of though Inglis made lots of Copies of the browning P35 years ago