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Would you support gun control if someone close to YOU died in a mass shooting?

AtlantaAdonis

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Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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Suzannah Hupp certainly looked to change the gun laws after the Luby massacre.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

Mark Mattioli didn't ask for more gun laws

Sandy Hook hearing reveals sharp divide on gun control - CNN

Then there's Evan Todd

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/...a-rejecting-gun-control-whose-side-are-you-on

Colorado state senator and Columbine survivor Patrick Neville

https://theslot.jezebel.com/we-need-to-stop-gun-related-deaths-in-school-but-how-1760914371
 
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AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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Well I had a coworker who was shot in a mass shooting, he barely survived yet he still supports guns. he survived the killeen luby's shooting fyi.
 
Rucker61 said:
Suzannah Hupp certainly looked to change the gun laws after the Luby massacre.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

Mark Mattioli didn't ask for more gun laws

Sandy Hook hearing reveals sharp divide on gun control - CNN

Then there's Evan Todd

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/...a-rejecting-gun-control-whose-side-are-you-on

Colorado state senator and Columbine survivor Patrick Neville

https://theslot.jezebel.com/we-need-to-stop-gun-related-deaths-in-school-but-how-1760914371
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Two of those people are mass shooting survivors and not victim family members. One of those links is to the Blaze (LoL).
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Two of those people are mass shooting survivors and not victim family members. One of those links is to the Blaze (LoL).
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edify us why there is a difference
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Leave it to a right-winger to compare having a scare in a shooting to losing a child.
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so you think its less traumatic to have someone almost kill you?
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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Why mass shootings and not regular shootings?
 
Soopairik said:
No, I'd support it regardless.
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of course, its common among lefties to want to push laws that harass people who tend to vote against welfare socialists
 
TurtleDude said:
of course, its common among lefties to want to push laws that harass people who tend to vote against welfare socialists
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of course, its common among right wingers to want to push lefties to stop supporting things by insulting them.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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No, I would not support gun control after the death of someone in my family. :no:

I would grieve, of course. Then I would recall that the perpetrator is personally responsible, and is the ONLY person who deserves my ire and vengeance (within the law).

That the mass of other law-abiding, gun-owning citizens bear no such responsibility, and thus no liability for this action.

It is appeals to emotion resulting in a rush to judgement, desire for vengeance, condemnation of the innocent along with the guilty, and a "never again" prevention mentality that has always been the problem.

A problem which has necessitated establishing formal rules and courts of law. (Thank God.)

So no, I would not call for more gun control. I would call for stricter punishments for those who break the law while using a gun.
 
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Soopairik said:
of course, its common among right wingers to want to push lefties to stop supporting things by insulting them.
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why don't you tell us why almost EVERY single poster who pushes for more restrictions on lawful gun ownership is a left-winger?
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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I would wish there had been someone there capable of an armed response. The only effective defense against an active shooter (especially one who has no criminal record and has their guns legally) is another active shooter returning fire.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-control/306540-guns-kill-people-just-not-enough-bad-people.html
 
TurtleDude said:
why don't you tell us why almost EVERY single poster who pushes for more restrictions on lawful gun ownership is a left-winger?
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Because tighter gun control is naturally a left wing thing?
 
Would you support gun control if someone close to YOU died in a mass shooting?
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No, I do not and would not.
 
Rucker61 said:
Why mass shootings and not regular shootings?
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Because it does not sound as horrific and attention grabbing on a news headline.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Just saying, I don't know if I can ever remember a parent or spouse or child of a mass shooting victim ever speak out in support of guns after the fact. Not even one. In fact they seem to be heavily in favor of new gun laws.

So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it? These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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If your opposition to new gun control laws is that you don't think they would be effective, and I would say that makes up at least part of most people's reasons who are against them, does it make any sense to think that would change just from being involved in a shooting or having a loved one involved?
 
This was my church back when I was religious. Gunman Kills 7, and Himself, At Baptist Church in Fort Worth - The New York Times It was within walking distance of my apartment and I knew several of the people shot. I had stopped attending a few years prior because I enlisted in the Army. And no, I don’t want to make it harder for law abiding people to own guns.

And on the flip side, I and one other person are alive today because I had a sidearm when we found ourselves in the wrong place at the wrong time many years ago.

I personally am not a fan of guns. And if we ever come up with a way to guarantee that bad guys can’t hurt innocent people, then I won’t care if my guns are taken away. But until that happens, I don’t believe in making it more difficult for innocent people to defend themselves.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
So can you absolutely be sure that if some mass shooting would affect you that you wouldn't change your mind about it?
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I have no problem with gun control as long as it does not take away our rights and freedom and actually does prevent the killings.

AtlantaAdonis said:
These shootings always seem so distant from us that we think they can never happen to any of the most important people to us but the truth is any of us could be affected by it.
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That is because they are so distant and rare. I know too many friends and family that have been killed and injured by thousands of different things but never by a gun. So I will continue to focus my efforts on solving the problems that actually do kill and injure people in my circle of family and friends. The sad truth is the people so concerned about gun control do nothing to protect themselves from the real danger out their. In my opinion that is just plain stupidity.
 
AtlantaAdonis said:
Progressives think the right to not get blown away in a mass shooting is more important than the freedumb to own 50 assault pistols?
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Is this right not to get blown away in a mass shooting analogous to the right not to die in a car accident? What is an "assault pistol", anyway?
 
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