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muzzleloaders and felons

should felons own blackpowder guns

  • felons should own blackpowder

    Votes: 9 69.2%
  • no they should not

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • other

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • let them use slingshots

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • make them chuck sticks

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • other other

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Total voters
    13

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How do you all feel about this,, me personally I have no issue with it, most states allow felons to buy muzzle and certain breech loaders, for the purpose of hunting as well as the fact the atf does not list them as firearms. I am sure some people would oppose, myself I can buy any firearm on the shelf short of those requireing a tax stamp, and I could likely get that tax stamp. I love blackpowder firearms though however for reformed felons that is all they can legally own in many states.

What is your opinion on the sunject
 
I don't have a problem with it.
 
I have no issue with it either.
I feel few are going to risk going back to a life of crime with a .36 Navy.
...and even fewer still know you need to point it straight up when cocking it after firing so the crushed cap falls away and does not get jammed up in the works.
 
How do you all feel about this,, me personally I have no issue with it, most states allow felons to buy muzzle and certain breech loaders, for the purpose of hunting as well as the fact the atf does not list them as firearms. I am sure some people would oppose, myself I can buy any firearm on the shelf short of those requireing a tax stamp, and I could likely get that tax stamp. I love blackpowder firearms though however for reformed felons that is all they can legally own in many states.

What is your opinion on the sunject

Once a person pays their dues and serves their time then their full rights should be restored automatically. If they're not trustworthy enough to own a gun then they're not trustworthy enough to be out on the streets.
 
Once a person pays their dues and serves their time then their full rights should be restored automatically. If they're not trustworthy enough to own a gun then they're not trustworthy enough to be out on the streets.

I agree to an extent, how I view it the punishment should fit the crime, meaning their right to arms should only be infringed if they are convicted of abusing that right. many felons are not violent felons who abused that right, so in my ming they should not be restricted from owning.

On the same note I believe a felon should be allowed to vote with the exception being those that abused that right and committed voter fraud.
 
I agree to an extent, how I view it the punishment should fit the crime, meaning their right to arms should only be infringed if they are convicted of abusing that right. many felons are not violent felons who abused that right, so in my ming they should not be restricted from owning.

On the same note I believe a felon should be allowed to vote with the exception being those that abused that right and committed voter fraud.

You idea is still far more reasonable that what it currently is and what many gun haters want. I also have no problem with it.
 
I agree to an extent, how I view it the punishment should fit the crime, meaning their right to arms should only be infringed if they are convicted of abusing that right. many felons are not violent felons who abused that right, so in my ming they should not be restricted from owning.

On the same note I believe a felon should be allowed to vote with the exception being those that abused that right and committed voter fraud.
This strikes me as eminently reasonable.

Before a Constitutional Right is removed, there should be a very high & narrowly defined bar as to specifically why the right should be removed, and it would seem to me that bar should be limited to something involving the right itself, as you've done here.
 
I agree to an extent, how I view it the punishment should fit the crime, meaning their right to arms should only be infringed if they are convicted of abusing that right. many felons are not violent felons who abused that right, so in my ming they should not be restricted from owning.

On the same note I believe a felon should be allowed to vote with the exception being those that abused that right and committed voter fraud.

Right so just commit murders with knifes so you can keep your gun rights :roll:

Felonies are supposed to be crimes of moral turpitude, just doing your punishment should not be enough to restore rights. You should have to show that you deserve to have them back.
 
How do you all feel about this,, me personally I have no issue with it, most states allow felons to buy muzzle and certain breech loaders, for the purpose of hunting as well as the fact the atf does not list them as firearms. I am sure some people would oppose, myself I can buy any firearm on the shelf short of those requireing a tax stamp, and I could likely get that tax stamp. I love blackpowder firearms though however for reformed felons that is all they can legally own in many states.

What is your opinion on the sunject

People who served out their sentence and are no longer in prison should have all their rights restored. IF they can't be trusted with those rights then they should not be let out in the first place. Because if that former criminal is hell bent on murdering,raping or robbing someone then a restriction on their constitutionally protected right isn't going to stop them.Laws generally don't stop criminals, they are mostly punitive for when the criminal gets caught.Its why our prisons are full of these people.Because those people didn't give a rats ass what the law says.
 
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This strikes me as eminently reasonable.

Before a Constitutional Right is removed, there should be a very high & narrowly defined bar as to specifically why the right should be removed, and it would seem to me that bar should be limited to something involving the right itself, as you've done here.
I agree completely. To many people get classified as felons and the way it's set up is one size fits all. Where a lot of felons are no more violent than my cat.
 
Right so just commit murders with knifes so you can keep your gun rights :roll:

Felonies are supposed to be crimes of moral turpitude, just doing your punishment should not be enough to restore rights. You should have to show that you deserve to have them back.

Would not murder in general fall under the same pretext whether it was with a gun or not as to removing rights?

Felonies are supposed to be but are not, in reality your right to firearms can be removed simply for being caught with a joint, a dishonerable discharge from the military, knocking over a mailbox, heck I can list many things, the fact felonies cover so much it is rediculous.
 
I agree completely. To many people get classified as felons and the way it's set up is one size fits all. Where a lot of felons are no more violent than my cat.
Depending on your cat, they may well be true! :2razz:
 
Does no one else think that maybe it should matter what felony these people committed? There are a plenty of nonviolent felonies such as fraud and illicit drug possession, all of which will prohibit you from buying a gun.
 
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