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What would gun control citizens do???

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Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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Are the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year in the US a price worth paying in case your hypothetical situation comes true?

I'm not opposed to guns per se, but America has shown that it's not mature enough to deal with this freedom (probably a combination of gang culture, Hollywood films, and 2nd amendment mythology).

The Czech republic has relaxed gun control and the czech people can conceal carry yet their gun death rate is much lower because they don't fetishise guns and gun laws.
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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Seeing how many of them tend to be globalist, socialist, communist and they view patriotism with scorn then they would probably snitch on their neighbors.
 
Aristaeus said:
Are the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year in the US a price worth paying in case your hypothetical situation comes true?

I'm not opposed to guns per se, but America has shown that it's not mature enough to deal with this freedom (probably a combination of gang culture, Hollywood films, and 2nd amendment mythology).

The Czech republic has relaxed gun control and the czech people can conceal carry yet their gun death rate is much lower because they don't fetishise guns and gun laws.
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How about an answer for the question instead of getting on a soap box with your own diatribe?

jamesrage said:
Seeing how many of them tend to be globalist, socialist, communist and they view patriotism with scorn then they would probably snitch on their neighbors.
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Bingo bongo!
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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Are you saying we need guns in case of a foreign occupation? Because in the event of a foreign occupation, even if we had guns at the outset, we wouldn't have them very long. And you are going to need a lot more than guns anyway.

I believe that if the need is great enough (which it is not, currently), Americans are more than capable of making all the guns required, underground if necessary.
 
Cameron said:
Are you saying we need guns in case of a foreign occupation? Because in the event of a foreign occupation, even if we had guns at the outset, we wouldn't have them very long. And you are going to need a lot more than guns anyway.

I believe that if the need is great enough (which it is not, currently), Americans are more than capable of making all the guns required, underground if necessary.
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I have faith that my fellow American's that think along the same line as the stipulated in our founding documents will make it to the armory and utilize whatever weapons that are available.
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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Here is the problem. Its a common problem of many who are against gun control. They assume people for gun control want to ban all guns. That is just completely laughable. You can have guns.....and gun control
 
Aristaeus said:
Are the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year in the US a price worth paying in case your hypothetical situation comes true?

I'm not opposed to guns per se, but America has shown that it's not mature enough to deal with this freedom (probably a combination of gang culture, Hollywood films, and 2nd amendment mythology).

The Czech republic has relaxed gun control and the czech people can conceal carry yet their gun death rate is much lower because they don't fetishise guns and gun laws.
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You do realize that the Czech Republic is much smaller than we are in both size and population, right? Also you do realize that most of our gun homivides happens in inner cities by gangs, right?
 
Maccabee said:
You do realize that the Czech Republic is much smaller than we are in both size and population, right? Also you do realize that most of our gun homivides happens in inner cities by gangs, right?
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I'll let the vegas victims know they are an anomoly
 
Aristaeus said:
Are the tens of thousands of gun deaths each year in the US a price worth paying in case your hypothetical situation comes true?

I'm not opposed to guns per se, but America has shown that it's not mature enough to deal with this freedom (probably a combination of gang culture, Hollywood films, and 2nd amendment mythology).

The Czech republic has relaxed gun control and the czech people can conceal carry yet their gun death rate is much lower because they don't fetishise guns and gun laws.
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The gun deaths in this country have very little to do with concealed carry and law abiding citizens. They have everything to do with gang bangers, violent thugs...you know...all the people leftists make excuses for and refuse to deal with. Take those people out of the equation and statistically our gun death rates due to criminal acts drop to statistical zero.


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VanceMack said:
The gun deaths in this country have very little to do with concealed carry and law abiding citizens. They have everything to do with gang bangers, violent thugs...you know...all the people leftists make excuses for and refuse to deal with. Take those people out of the equation and statistically our gun death rates due to criminal acts drop to statistical zero.


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Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? Where is my magic wand? LOL
 
vegas giants said:
Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? Where is my magic wand? LOL
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You don’t need a magic wand. You need a willingness to target perpetrators. That means passing mandatory minimum sentencing laws and locking away violent offenders for 30-40 years in addition to the sentence for their crimes for the commission of violent crimes using firearms. That means targeting actual problems instead of the same mindless idiotic leftist gun control mantras of background checks, waiting periods, magazine capacity laws, attacks on assault weapon ownership, etc.


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VanceMack said:
You don’t need a magic wand. You need a willingness to target perpetrators. That means passing mandatory minimum sentencing laws and locking away violent offenders for 30-40 years in addition to the sentence for their crimes for the commission of violent crimes using firearms. That means targeting actual problems instead of the same mindless idiotic leftist gun control mantras of background checks, waiting periods, magazine capacity laws, attacks on assault weapon ownership, etc.


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Yeah the GOP is against that
 
vegas giants said:
Yeah the GOP is against that
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Right. Its the GOP that is against that...not pathetic mindless leftist ****s that make excuses for every bad acting moron the left produces. Not pathetic mindless leftist ****s that spend their time braying like asses calling for stupid gun control measures that have proven to not impact violent crimes in this country.

Its the GOP.
 
VanceMack said:
Right. Its the GOP that is against that...not pathetic mindless leftist ****s that make excuses for every bad acting moron the left produces. Not pathetic mindless leftist ****s that spend their time braying like asses calling for stupid gun control measures that have proven to not impact violent crimes in this country.

Its the GOP.
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The most gun deaths per capita happen in GOP states. Lol
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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You are of THE most surveilled population the planet has ever known and you have lost the guarantee of Habeas corpus, all while fweedumb's interpid defenders sat on the couch. Get real.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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if im getting nuked what good would a hand gun or rifle do me

and why do you have to ban all gun ownership to have gun control?
 
vegas giants said:
The most gun deaths per capita happen in GOP states. Lol
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In all instances, they occur in rat strongholds.


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VanceMack said:
In all instances, they occur in rat strongholds.


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GOP states have the highest per capita gun deaths. If you think they are rats....so be it
 
blarg said:
if im getting nuked what good would a hand gun or rifle do me

and why do you have to ban all gun ownership to have gun control?
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if one's solution to stop some crime is to pass laws that only restrict the current rights of law abiding people, wouldn't one's solution to stop more crime be further such restrictions?

once you have decided that the rights of lawful gun owners are subordinate to restricting their rights for "public safety" you don't have to make any further decisions to support gun bans
 
TurtleDude said:
if one's solution to stop some crime is to pass laws that only restrict the current rights of law abiding people, wouldn't one's solution to stop more crime be further such restrictions?

once you have decided that the rights of lawful gun owners are subordinate to restricting their rights for "public safety" you don't have to make any further decisions to support gun bans
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thats what you are afraid of rather then what has to happen
 
lefty louie said:
Let us assume for a second that for some reason China Russia or who ever dropped a few nukes on our major cities and our politicians got on TV and surrendered. I doubt the gun owners of this country would just hand over their weapons, would the gun grabbers all of a sudden want a gun or would they be dropping a dime on their neighbor to rat them out to the enemy?

I understand this is not a very plausible scenario but humor me. Just kind of wondering if those that oppose guns would all of a sudden realize the need is real.

If the first one doesn't get you, how about this, Trump declares himself dictator and his chief of staff takes control of the military in defense of Trump. Should we still give up our guns or maybe we'd be your friends, because I don't think any American would stand for a dictator.
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Actually, something like that first scenario (foreign invasion) is eventually bound to happen. Maybe tomorrow, maybe (more likely) a couple decades or a century or two from now. Corporations are also already trying to effect the kind of domestic takeover you envision. This is why, despite my rather liberal stances on other issues, I recognize gun control is a very foolhardy idea. Ordinary citizens must be able to bring to bear whatever kind of force can be brought to bear upon them.

Yes, events like Las Vegas, Pulse, Sandy Hook, and etc. are horrific, and enough gun control might prevent them. What history teaches us is that the population that gives up its weapons always comes to regret it. The massacres that would eventually result would make all the mass shootings in our history combined look insignificant. This is one thing the founding fathers got right, and a point that does not seem to change as do many others. So long as we will murder and steal, we will murder and steal on national and international levels. And those who think themselves protected by laws and noble ideals will quickly find themselves at the wrong end of the barrel of a gun, with no possible response but to kneel in the mud.

Nietzsche had some very prescient things to say about all of this. People should read and think very carefully about what he had to say about the "last human beings."
 
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