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How do you feel about gun accessories

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I bring up this topic because of people I see at the gun range, loaded with flashlights, lasers, a red dot, a bipod, extra mags on the buttstock etc. I know some gun control advocates complain about such accessories, as do fudds, and if you do not know what a fudd is, they are hunters that believe only the most basic hunting rifles should be legal, and anything outside hunting should be illegal.

In my opinion I laugh at people with quad rails loaded with accessories, as a rifle is only as usefull as the person wielding it, while more accessories can be a burden rather than a help. But I believe all accessories should stay legal, as well as mods and even things like pistol grips and collapsible stocks.

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I can understand how hobbiests could get into it. The only accessory I use is a laser sight on my home defense weapon. It makes for easier target acquisition in the dark. And it blinds the target. And it scares the target, hopefully making it less likely I would have to fire.
 
beerftw said:
I bring up this topic because of people I see at the gun range, loaded with flashlights, lasers, a red dot, a bipod, extra mags on the buttstock etc. I know some gun control advocates complain about such accessories, as do fudds, and if you do not know what a fudd is, they are hunters that believe only the most basic hunting rifles should be legal, and anything outside hunting should be illegal.

In my opinion I laugh at people with quad rails loaded with accessories, as a rifle is only as usefull as the person wielding it, while more accessories can be a burden rather than a help. But I believe all accessories should stay legal, as well as mods and even things like pistol grips and collapsible stocks.

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The only accessories I have is a spare magazine or two for the Ruger 10-22, and custom grips for the .357 revolvers.

Oh, and sling swivels.
 
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I think that most folks really have no practical use for them, but some peeps want all the "tacti-cool" stuff so they look good on the range.

Just my opinion.

We have "door kicker" contractors here that run around with AN/PEQ 9's and an assortment of other items on their rifles despite the fact they are restricted to the base during hours of darkness.
 
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I have very little on my various AR 15s

my national match service rifles have the following

an "ace-wedge to tighten up the lock up between the top and lower receiver
some weight in the stock and National Match Rear Sight
and of course a military sling for shooting kneeling and prone


On my SIG MCX home defense rifle I have an AIMPOINT military red dot sight and I sure fire flashlight-both extremely useful for close quarters shooting in what most likely will be inside and dark. it has flip up back up iron sights in case the red dot fails

On the other rifle-if I have to engage threats outdoors, I have a Eotech Holographic night vision compatible forward mounted sight and a Gen3+ military night vision scope. It also has back up iron sights

On my 3G competition rifles I have both an open and a stock/tactical set ups

the Open has a match trigger (Gieselle) with a JP compensator to cut recoil with a Burris 3G competition 1-4X scope with a Burris Fastfire red dot on top of it for short range targets

the stock/Tactical is pretty much the same but the rules restrict the rifle to one optical sight so it has the Burris with 45 degree Gryphon iron sights for close range targets.

several years ago, a young man I coach was shooting a National Match rifle I had once owned that his parents bought for him to practice military style shooting. It was a plain-Jane Rock River NM target rifle. At the range we were at were two very wealthy sisters that the range master called the "tactical twins" or the Rambettes. they had Colt ARs that had more crap bolted on them than you can imagine. 1300 rifles now with 3000 dollars of add ons. they were shooting prone with rests at 100 yards. the boy I coached was wearing a light jacket (no support) and shooting at the same type of target as the ladies. STANDING.

we go to replace the targets and one of the women walks over to his target-20 rounds in the 3 inch black middle circle. I looked at their targets-not many in the black. They go back to the Range master and ask why. He sort of smirked and said-see that boy-he has a thousand dollar rifle-nothing else. he spends all his money on practice ammo and hiring a good coach. He doesn't need all that crap.

most of the stuff people put on their rifles isn't based on a predicted problem that needs a solution
 
TurtleDude said:
I have very little on my various AR 15s

my national match service rifles have the following

an "ace-wedge to tighten up the lock up between the top and lower receiver
some weight in the stock and National Match Rear Sight
and of course a military sling for shooting kneeling and prone


On my SIG MCX home defense rifle I have an AIMPOINT military red dot sight and I sure fire flashlight-both extremely useful for close quarters shooting in what most likely will be inside and dark. it has flip up back up iron sights in case the red dot fails

On the other rifle-if I have to engage threats outdoors, I have a Eotech Holographic night vision compatible forward mounted sight and a Gen3+ military night vision scope. It also has back up iron sights

On my 3G competition rifles I have both an open and a stock/tactical set ups

the Open has a match trigger (Gieselle) with a JP compensator to cut recoil with a Burris 3G competition 1-4X scope with a Burris Fastfire red dot on top of it for short range targets

the stock/Tactical is pretty much the same but the rules restrict the rifle to one optical sight so it has the Burris with 45 degree Gryphon iron sights for close range targets.

several years ago, a young man I coach was shooting a National Match rifle I had once owned that his parents bought for him to practice military style shooting. It was a plain-Jane Rock River NM target rifle. At the range we were at were two very wealthy sisters that the range master called the "tactical twins" or the Rambettes. they had Colt ARs that had more crap bolted on them than you can imagine. 1300 rifles now with 3000 dollars of add ons. they were shooting prone with rests at 100 yards. the boy I coached was wearing a light jacket (no support) and shooting at the same type of target as the ladies. STANDING.

we go to replace the targets and one of the women walks over to his target-20 rounds in the 3 inch black middle circle. I looked at their targets-not many in the black. They go back to the Range master and ask why. He sort of smirked and said-see that boy-he has a thousand dollar rifle-nothing else. he spends all his money on practice ammo and hiring a good coach. He doesn't need all that crap.

most of the stuff people put on their rifles isn't based on a predicted problem that needs a solution
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Now take all those accessories you use on various rifles with a purpose and shove them on one rifle with a quad rail system or you ain't tacticool.
 
beerftw said:
Now take all those accessories you use on various rifles with a purpose and shove them on one rifle with a quad rail system or you ain't tacticool.
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the only thing I want people to look at is the target or the standings after the match
 
It's been more than a dozen years since I've gone hunting other than birding. A function of bad legs, age, laziness. I've an assortment of old rifles, bought, gifted and inherited. Chambered mostly to .35 and 308, .22 for smaller game. 1 350. The last carried for protection against bears, never purposefully went after bear, but did it use it on very large pig that had been wrecking havoc. Marlin, Ruger, Winchester, Savage, Henry, Berreta mostly bolt action, 2 levered. An assortment of older scopes, Leupold, Bushnell, and Nikon. A few with custom stocks, mostly decorative, all with flat butts. Military slings. I never saw the need for much else. Mostly I hunted white tails, pigs, an occasional Elk. Elk are just large deer. All for the table. All capable of taking down men if necessary, all accurate. Dependable accuracy, no matter how many rounds have been fired, is all that matters, even tho more than 2 or 3 rounds to down a target, and you shouldn't be shooting. Ideally, a single round for white tails. For birding, I have an assortment of older Berretas, an auto Browning and semi auto Mossbergs, 1 Parker Bros. field grade. Does the trick. All are kept clean, oiled, and locked in a gun vault, with trigger locks. Firing pins removed to a secondary but handy location. Common sense.

Range practice I leave for pistolas. BTW, I own 2 matched .50 Parker Colts, and I've used them with paper cartridges. Always hand loaded. Still accurate after all these years, not for the average shooter, and if you don't know what you are doing, the recoil can cost an arm. The heaviest hand arms I ever used. They've been in the family since the Civil War. Most were chambered for .45 or .44. I also possess a LeMat 9 round .42 with a second mechanism for firing shotgun shells. Surprisingly, not as heavy as the Parkers, but close. Perhaps a more dangerous weapon. Also used paper cartridges. I've never fired it.
 
It's been more than a dozen years since I've gone hunting other than birding. A function of bad legs, age, laziness. I've an assortment of old rifles, bought, gifted and inherited. Chambered mostly to .35 and 308, .22 for smaller game. 1 350. The last carried for protection against bears, never purposefully went after bear, but did it use it on very large pig that had been wrecking havoc. Marlin, Ruger, Winchester, Savage, Henry, Berreta mostly bolt action, 2 levered. An assortment of older scopes, Leupold, Bushnell, and Nikon. A few with custom stocks, mostly decorative, all with flat butts. Military slings. I never saw the need for much else. Mostly I hunted white tails, pigs, an occasional Elk. Elk are just large deer. All for the table. All capable of taking down men if necessary, all accurate. Dependable accuracy, no matter how many rounds have been fired, is all that matters, even tho more than 2 or 3 rounds to down a target, and you shouldn't be shooting. Ideally, a single round for white tails. For birding, I have an assortment of older Berretas, an auto Browning and semi auto Mossbergs, 1 Parker Bros. field grade. Does the trick. All are kept clean, oiled, and locked in a gun vault, with trigger locks. Firing pins removed to a secondary but handy location. Common sense.

Range practice I leave for pistolas. BTW, I own 2 matched .50 Parker Colts, and I've used them with paper cartridges. Always hand loaded. Still accurate after all these years, not for the average shooter, and if you don't know what you are doing, the recoil can cost an arm. The heaviest hand arms I ever used. They've been in the family since the Civil War. Most were chambered for .45 or .44. I also possess a LeMat 9 round .42 with a second mechanism for firing shotgun shells. Surprisingly, not as heavy as the Parkers, but close. Perhaps a more dangerous weapon. Also used paper cartridges. I've never fired it.
 
For home defense, I believe that lasers are a wise choice, especially at night when most people have very limited lighting on.

Most of the other stuff is eye candy in my opinion.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I can understand how hobbiests could get into it. The only accessory I use is a laser sight on my home defense weapon. It makes for easier target acquisition in the dark. And it blinds the target. And it scares the target, hopefully making it less likely I would have to fire.
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Same here for much the same reason but found it great for training too.
 
Polar Bum said:
I think that most folks really have no practical use for them, but some peeps want all the "tacti-cool" stuff so they look good on the range.

Just my opinion.

We have "door kicker" contractors here that run around with AN/PEQ 9's and an assortment of other items on their rifles despite the fact they are restricted to the base during hours of darkness.
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I have about 4 dozen fishing buddies that are more equipped than a telephone lineman and they haven't a clue how to get onto fish.

Golf buddies same thing.......................2-3 grand wrapped up in equipment and they can't break 90.

;)
 
Once you have arrived at this point, you can probably do more damage to someone just by dropping it on them.....

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OldFatGuy said:
It's been more than a dozen years since I've gone hunting other than birding. A function of bad legs, age, laziness. I've an assortment of old rifles, bought, gifted and inherited. Chambered mostly to .35 and 308, .22 for smaller game. 1 350. The last carried for protection against bears, never purposefully went after bear, but did it use it on very large pig that had been wrecking havoc. Marlin, Ruger, Winchester, Savage, Henry, Berreta mostly bolt action, 2 levered. An assortment of older scopes, Leupold, Bushnell, and Nikon. A few with custom stocks, mostly decorative, all with flat butts. Military slings. I never saw the need for much else. Mostly I hunted white tails, pigs, an occasional Elk. Elk are just large deer. All for the table. All capable of taking down men if necessary, all accurate. Dependable accuracy, no matter how many rounds have been fired, is all that matters, even tho more than 2 or 3 rounds to down a target, and you shouldn't be shooting. Ideally, a single round for white tails. For birding, I have an assortment of older Berretas, an auto Browning and semi auto Mossbergs, 1 Parker Bros. field grade. Does the trick. All are kept clean, oiled, and locked in a gun vault, with trigger locks. Firing pins removed to a secondary but handy location. Common sense.

Range practice I leave for pistolas. BTW, I own 2 matched .50 Parker Colts, and I've used them with paper cartridges. Always hand loaded. Still accurate after all these years, not for the average shooter, and if you don't know what you are doing, the recoil can cost an arm. The heaviest hand arms I ever used. They've been in the family since the Civil War. Most were chambered for .45 or .44. I also possess a LeMat 9 round .42 with a second mechanism for firing shotgun shells. Surprisingly, not as heavy as the Parkers, but close. Perhaps a more dangerous weapon. Also used paper cartridges. I've never fired it.
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That's a bit of overkill don't you think?
 
Right now I'm in the process of dolling up my duty weapon. It has a laser, flashlight, and I ordered night sights. That's all I'm doing to it.
 
It depends on which weapons we are talking about. My ranch rifles...I wouldnt do anything to them...not even a scope. Ive got a bunch of 10/22s...some with scopes, some without. Ive got a several Sub2Ks with angled rails that allow the weapon to still fold for function, shoot straight sights, and then I have a Spitfire tactical red dot on the side. All of them are configured the same way (except for the one I use for home defense). The only other addition is a hogue grip cover for all three.

The most heavily modded gun I have is the Zastava M92 pistol. Its not overly so...I changed out the wood for a US Machinegun Rail System, a red dot, laser, and strobe, single contact sling point and Im going to add a blade. I mostly did it for fun but it would be a formidable weapon if needed. But the reality is that once I get the blade on it, I'll probably sell it.
 
My 6mm Sako has a bipod because it did double duty as a deer and varmint gun and would routinely use it on woodchuck out to 200 meters.

I have a speedloader for my Python if that qualifies as an accessory. Otherwise nothing.
 
Winchester said:
That's a bit of overkill don't you think?
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Yes. With 16 grandchildren and their friends in and out of my home on a daily basis, I view safety as a crucial responsibility.

My daily carry is either on my person or in a lockbox.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Yes. With 16 grandchildren and their friends in and out of my home on a daily basis, I view safety as a crucial responsibility.

My daily carry is either on my person or in a lockbox.
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Fair enough.
 
I have a bobble head on the rail of my Sig AR, and a pine air freshener.
 
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