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Texas massacre victim has filed Claim against the USAF

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Claiming that the USAF's failure to inform the data base of the shooter's DV convictions allowed the killer to legally buy a rifle. Under the Federal Tort Claim Act, people seeking tort damages against federal agencies must first file a claim that is adjudicated administratively. If the claim is denied, that gives the plaintiff a right to sue in federal court but only in the amount the same or less than the amount contained in the claim (usually). If the government finds the claim is meritorious, that generally is the end of the matter though in some cases the agency (USAF) can appeal.
 
TurtleDude said:
Claiming that the USAF's failure to inform the data base of the shooter's DV convictions allowed the killer to legally buy a rifle. Under the Federal Tort Claim Act, people seeking tort damages against federal agencies must first file a claim that is adjudicated administratively. If the claim is denied, that gives the plaintiff a right to sue in federal court but only in the amount the same or less than the amount contained in the claim (usually). If the government finds the claim is meritorious, that generally is the end of the matter though in some cases the agency (USAF) can appeal.
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might as well sue Jebus; it happened in his casa .......... and have about the same odds (terrible, at best) of recouping a slug copper penny .......


in bocca al lupo ............
 
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JLee1977 said:
USAF will settle out of court with tax payer money!
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I don't know about that. There is a foreseeability issue. but for the "negligence" of the USAF. could the killer have obtained another rifle from other sources? of course he could have.
 
Someone in the AF needs to go to jail for screwing up badly enough it got people killed. Pretty stupid to have laws if the government isn't even going to follow them.
 
Moon said:
Someone in the AF needs to go to jail for screwing up badly enough it got people killed. Pretty stupid to have laws if the government isn't even going to follow them.
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I tend to agree especially if somewhere along the line it was q purposeful omission. I hope at least it's caused the AF to double check it's reporting procedure and identified and corrected the foul up
 
Moon said:
Someone in the AF needs to go to jail for screwing up badly enough it got people killed. Pretty stupid to have laws if the government isn't even going to follow them.
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Clerical error, you think?
 
They will drag it out in court until all interested parties are all too old to give a ****.

Just like the Iowa gun turret lawsuits from 1991.
 
Moon said:
Someone in the AF needs to go to jail for screwing up badly enough it got people killed. Pretty stupid to have laws if the government isn't even going to follow them.
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since when has OUR government followed any of the laws?
 
The Air Force will pay big and be made an example of.
 
joG said:
Clerical error, you think?
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Could be. Doesn't matter who made the error, it was made. And since it is just one of many, there's a problem.

The Air Force did not report the convictions of dozens of service members to a national background check database used for gun sales, The New York Times reported Tuesday, highlighting a gap that’s come to light in the wake of this month’s deadly Texas church shooting.

Air Force didn't report dozens of convictions to background check database | TheHill
 
jet57 said:
The Air Force will pay big and be made an example of.
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Think we should do the same with medical/mental health professionals, judges, law enforcement etc. Who let someone slip through the cracks?
 
holbritter said:
Could be. Doesn't matter who made the error, it was made. And since it is just one of many, there's a problem.

The Air Force did not report the convictions of dozens of service members to a national background check database used for gun sales, The New York Times reported Tuesday, highlighting a gap that’s come to light in the wake of this month’s deadly Texas church shooting.

Air Force didn't report dozens of convictions to background check database | TheHill
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I really don't know. Is the military supposed to give that information to civilians? Is it required to?
 
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