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Gun banning Groups

TurtleDude said:
duh, they are part of the many groups that want to prevent honest Americans from owning commonly used firearms. these groups prove that when anti gun advocates claim "NO ONE WANTS TO BAN GUNS" those anti gun advocates are LYING because Diane Feinstein claims (and I have no reason to disbelieve her claims in this area) that all those groups are gun banning groups
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So because she said it then it must be true? Is that your point? That is freaking hilarious
 
jet57 said:
Of course all of these gun people were left off the OP list of endorsers:

International Association of Campus Law Enforcement Administrators
International Association of Chiefs of Police
Major Cities Chiefs Association
National Association of Women Law Enforcement Executives
National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence
National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives
Police Executive Research Forum
Police Foundation
Women in Federal Law Enforcement
Chaska, Minn., Police Chief Scott Knight, former chairman of the Firearms Committee, International Association of Chiefs of Police
Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca
Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck
San Diego Police Chief Bill Lansdowne
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So there's even more support for a ban? Do any of these or the groups in TD's list support banning M1 Carbines?
 
Rucker61 said:
So there's even more support for a ban? Do any of these or the groups in TD's list support banning M1 Carbines?
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We only seem to have the word of Diane Feinstein....someone you completely believe. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
We only seem to have the word of Diane Feinstein....someone you completely believe. Lol
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this is typical of a vegas pathetic attempt to try to contradict information he doesn't have any clue about. he cannot figure out that if those groups aren't gun banning groups, I am sure some of them would have objected to DIFIs claims. If you actually do some research (LOL) you will find that almost all of those groups invariably support Democrats as well
 
TurtleDude said:
this is typical of a vegas pathetic attempt to try to contradict information he doesn't have any clue about. he cannot figure out that if those groups aren't gun banning groups, I am sure some of them would have objected to DIFIs claims. If you actually do some research (LOL) you will find that almost all of those groups invariably support Democrats as well
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More lies. Prove they knew anything about this. This is all Feinstein....who you believe completely now. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
We only seem to have the word of Diane Feinstein....someone you completely believe. Lol
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I believe her when she says she wants to ban ownership of MSR15s.
 
vegas giants said:
More lies. Prove they knew anything about this. This is all Feinstein....who you believe completely now. Lol
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so you claim Feinstein is lying? that can be the only possible interpretation of your stupid post. and you don't have even the shred of an honest belief that she is. Its another case of you trying to divert and disrupt posts that you don't like but since you don't have any legitimate information you just make crap up.

lets see your evidence that Feinstein would lie about which groups support her gun banning agenda.
 
vegas giants said:
You are a big fan of her now. Lol
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another stupid lie. No one with a shred of honesty could possibly interpret what he said as what you claim.
 
TurtleDude said:
so you claim Feinstein is lying? that can be the only possible interpretation of your stupid post. and you don't have even the shred of an honest belief that she is. Its another case of you trying to divert and disrupt posts that you don't like but since you don't have any legitimate information you just make crap up.

lets see your evidence that Feinstein would lie about which groups support her gun banning agenda.
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Suddenly she is a beacon of truth for you. I love it. Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Suddenly she is a beacon of truth for you. I love it. Lol
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do you have any evidence those groups are not gun banning supporters?

lets see how many ways you can avoid answering the easy question
 
TurtleDude said:
do you have any evidence those groups are not gun banning supporters?

lets see how many ways you can avoid answering the easy question
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Do you have any evidence they are? Any e vidence at all? Anything? Lol
 
vegas giants said:
Do you have any evidence they are? Any e vidence at all? Anything? Lol
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I guess you didn't read the opening post. geez what a stupid comment
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess you didn't read the opening post. geez what a stupid comment
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So you believe Feinstein now. Got it. When she speaks you listen. Shall I pull up some of her comments you now believe in? Lol
 
vegas giants said:
So you believe Feinstein now. Got it. When she speaks you listen. Shall I pull up some of her comments you now believe in? Lol
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another stupid lie. I believe her when she says she is a gun banner. I believe her when she notes who her gun banning allies are.
 
TurtleDude said:
according to arch gun banner Diane Feinstein (D-California) these groups all supported a ban on honest private citizens being able to own commonly owned semi auto rifles. So the next time someone says no one is trying to ban guns, read this list


https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-endorsements

Some of the groups she claims are gun banners

  • Doctors for America
  • National Association of School Nurses
  • National Physicians Alliance
  • Physicians for Social Responsibility
  • San Francisco Mental Health Association
  • Society for the Advancement of Violence and Injury Research
  • Society of General Internal Medicine

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The 2013 AWB grandfathers all existing "assault weapons", doesn't ban the Mini14, the gun used by the Norway mass shooter and still allows the "New York Assault Weapon" to be sold. It's more security theater.
 
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Rucker61 said:
The 2013 AWB grandfathers all existing "assault weapons", doesn't ban the Mini14, the gun used by the Norway mass shooter and still allows the "New York Assault Weapon: to be sold. It's more security theater.
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true, I think even Feinstein understands what would happen if she tried to confiscate millions of rifles. but I think more current versions are even more idiotic. the fact is, when gun banners claim no one is trying to ban guns its a blatant lie,
 
TurtleDude said:
true, I think even Feinstein understands what would happen if she tried to confiscate millions of rifles. but I think more current versions are even more idiotic. the fact is, when gun banners claim no one is trying to ban guns its a blatant lie,
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They are coming....lol
 
I'm all for a voluntary registration for anyone wanting to register their firearms. If there was such a system I would personally require a firearm I sold to be registered by the New owner as a condition of the sell.
 
Chillfolks said:
I'm all for a voluntary registration for anyone wanting to register their firearms. If there was such a system I would personally require a firearm I sold to be registered by the New owner as a condition of the sell.
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what good is that? other than to CYA? do you think it would have any impact on criminals?
 
TurtleDude said:
what good is that? other than to CYA? do you think it would have any impact on criminals?
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It is nothing more than a CYA no illusions about it. Protecting myself and my loved ones has many levels.
 
TurtleDude said:
according to arch gun banner Diane Feinstein (D-California) these groups all supported a ban on honest private citizens being able to own commonly owned semi auto rifles. So the next time someone says no one is trying to ban guns, read this list


https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-endorsements

Some of the groups she claims are gun banners

  • Doctors for America
  • National Association of School Nurses
  • National Physicians Alliance
  • Physicians for Social Responsibility
  • San Francisco Mental Health Association
  • Society for the Advancement of Violence and Injury Research
  • Society of General Internal Medicine

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let's start with the dishonest thread title: "Gun banning Groups"

those organizations want to regulate guns, not violate the second amendment

there is a specific category of guns that those organizations propose to make unlawful to bear

not unlike the present unlawful category of machine guns

and even for machine guns, there are stringent requirements one must follow and still be able to legally own such weapons

so, once again, the OP has misrepresented the intent of those identified organizations seeking a particular reform of gun laws to instead insist they are indeed gun "banners"
 
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justabubba said:
let's start with the dishonest thread title: "Gun banning Groups"

those organizations want to regulate guns, not violate the second amendment

there is a specific category of guns that those organizations propose to make unlawful to bear

not unlike the present unlawful category of machine guns
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Banning the right to keep and bear any class of firearms makes one a gun banner.

From the PTA letter linked in the OP:

"The proposed legislation falls in line with National PTA’s positions on gun violence prevention and
National PTA agrees with Sen. Feinstein in that Congress must act to:
Ban the sale and possession of military-style assault weapons;
 Ban large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds;"

That's a ban no matter how you word it, and it's significantly more strict that the NFA 1934.
 
Rucker61 said:
Banning the right to keep and bear any class of firearms makes one a gun banner.

From the PTA letter linked in the OP:

"The proposed legislation falls in line with National PTA’s positions on gun violence prevention and
National PTA agrees with Sen. Feinstein in that Congress must act to:
Ban the sale and possession of military-style assault weapons;
 Ban large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds;"

That's a ban no matter how you word it, and it's significantly more strict that the NFA 1934.
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no, it makes one a gun regulator

just as the stringent restrictions imposed on machine gun owners did not in any way prevent a citizen his/her right to bear unregulated arms

once semi automatic arms are prohibited from being publicly borne that will not prevent citizens from continuing to exercise their second amendment right to bear (other) arms

voila, no banning of guns
 
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