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What should disqualify you from owning a gun?

TurtleDude said:
in addition to that being as stupid as the OP, its moronic that you don't understand what an assault rifle is. lots of people legally own them and the incidents of such a weapon being used illegally is basically zero. Your concept of "libertarian" appears to be out of order
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Seems I touched a raw nerve there,Turtle Dude. Is there really a need to go into full on hysteria mode and call me 'moronic' and 'stupid'?
 
Bucky said:
IMO:

Anyone under the age of 21-years old
Anyone that is guilty of a felony.
Anyone that is guilty of a misdemeanor involving assault
Anyone that is not a U.S Citizen
Anyone that has a medical prescription
Anyone that fails a mental health evaluation

Am I missing anything else? If you want a license to drive a car, you need to pass a written test as well as a performance test. If you obtain too many DUIs, do not pay your parking tickets etc.. your license can be suspended. Shouldn't the same standard (to be honest it should be stricter) be applied to owning a firearm?

Just my two cents.
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Well, how fortunate that Physicians don't write prescriptions for heroin and crack cocaine. :roll:

Though I may have to give up my firearms due to my Metformin use.
 
Sweden said:
Seems I touched a raw nerve there,Turtle Dude. Is there really a need to go into full on hysteria mode and call me 'moronic' and 'stupid'?
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He loses it on occasion as evidenced by my signature.....and then he calls gun control advocates hateful. LOL
 
Bucky said:
IMO:

Anyone under the age of 21-years old
Anyone that is guilty of a felony.
Anyone that is guilty of a misdemeanor involving assault
Anyone that is not a U.S Citizen
Anyone that has a medical prescription
Anyone that fails a mental health evaluation
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You were doing okay until the last 2.

FAIL!
 
Bucky said:
Lol

Comparing a butter knife with a firearm.

Does this country have a problem with drive by stabbings or knife violence?
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Well Bucky,given your stupid criteria,and something like that were to come to pass then yeah it would be a problem.
 
Sweden said:
Seems I touched a raw nerve there,Turtle Dude. Is there really a need to go into full on hysteria mode and call me 'moronic' and 'stupid'?
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I didn't call you moronic or stupid. that violates the rules here. Your posts however, are pretty stupid when it comes to gun rights. You see, real libertarians have rather jaundiced views towards big government trying to disarm honest people for stupid reasons. Real assault rifles are not used for "assault" as most gun banners or ignorant people would have you believe. IN military terms, real assault rifles have a select fire switch that allows several soldiers to pour suppressive fire on a fortified position to keep the defenders from engaging engineers who try to get close to the position to blast it with a satchel charge or a bazooka. Real assault rifles have been owned by private citizens and there is not a single case of a legally owned assault rifle being used for violent crime in the USA in the 60 or so years that said rifles have been available for citizens to buy. In 1986, in order to derail a pro gun bill, anti gun politicians improperly added a poison pill to the bill mainly to stop the sale of unregistered conversion kits for MI carbines (that turned the carbines into M2 select fire weapons). However, probably with collusion with ATF officials, the ATF ruled that this poison bill banned the registration of any machine gun made after May 19, 1986 which essentially banned private citizens from buying automatic weapons (including assault rifles) made after that date

dishonest or ignorant people call semi automatic modern sporting rifles "assault rifles or assault weapons". since those firearms lack fully automatic fire capability, they cannot be used effectively for military assault strategies. Gun banners call them that hoping ignorant voters will think of "Assault and battery" and want to ban said firearms
 
Bucky, any medication, prescribed or over the counter (like aspirin) is considered a "drug." So, your criteria pretty much disqualifies everybody from owning a gun.
 
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Studies have shown if you own a gun in the home, the likelihood of death increases significantly.

I don't think anyone that is taking DRUGS should be owning firearms.
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And I said

zsu2357 said:
So what you mean is don't get sick and stay away from anything prescribed? Don't go to the doctor or anyone that may prescribe something.
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And you say
Isnt that how our healthcare bill works?
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No idea what that means.
 
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Bucky said:
So people like oj simpson and mike tyson should be able to buy a gun no questions asked?
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Sure.

The fourteenth amendment cucks state police powers that otherwise could have been used to prevent people like him getting a gun if people are so inclined to extend punishments beyond their original sentences.
 
Bucky said:
I don't think anyone that is taking DRUGS should be owning firearms.
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Oh man, you've never fired a fully automatic AR-15 at night while trippin' on LSD? The trails, the trails man. Far out.
 
Bucky said:
IMO:

Anyone under the age of 21-years old
Anyone that is guilty of a felony.
Anyone that is guilty of a misdemeanor involving assault
Anyone that is not a U.S Citizen
Anyone that has a medical prescription
Anyone that fails a mental health evaluation

Am I missing anything else? If you want a license to drive a car, you need to pass a written test as well as a performance test. If you obtain too many DUIs, do not pay your parking tickets etc.. your license can be suspended. Shouldn't the same standard (to be honest it should be stricter) be applied to owning a firearm?

Just my two cents.
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You don't NEED a license to own a car.

BTW - I have had prescriptions in the past to combat cholesterol.

Is that a deal killer?

How about aspirin?
 
Fledermaus said:
You don't NEED a license to own a car.

BTW - I have had prescriptions in the past to combat cholesterol.

Is that a deal killer?

How about aspirin?
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its all dishonest anyway since Bucky is on record wanting to end all private gun ownership.
 
countryboy said:
Oh man, you've never fired a fully automatic AR-15 at night while trippin' on LSD? The trails, the trails man. Far out.
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I'll tell ya really blows.....tracers or star cluster flares causing vision washout on the older NVG's.
 
Bucky said:
IMO:

Anyone under the age of 21-years old
Anyone that is guilty of a felony.
Anyone that is guilty of a misdemeanor involving assault
Anyone that is not a U.S Citizen
Anyone that has a medical prescription
Anyone that fails a mental health evaluation

Am I missing anything else? If you want a license to drive a car, you need to pass a written test as well as a performance test. If you obtain too many DUIs, do not pay your parking tickets etc.. your license can be suspended. Shouldn't the same standard (to be honest it should be stricter) be applied to owning a firearm?

Just my two cents.
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> Anyone under the age of 21-years old

I'm 18. So I can defend my country overseas but I cannot defend my family here at home? Where's the logic in this?

> Anyone that is guilty of a felony.

So if I was arrested for having over a certain amount of pot, then I cannot ever own a gun? Distribution charges can be brought if baggies or scales are found with MJ in some states.. rethink this one.

> Anyone that is guilty of a misdemeanor involving assault

All guys will end up having at least 1 or 2 fights in their life, most anyway. I've been in 3. I have a job, I work hard, I've never been arrested nor been to prison. So under YOUR plan, I would not have the right to defend my family. Interesting.

Maybe aggravated assault or VIOLENT crimes like murder, attempted murder etc. But not a simple bar fight, this is just.. extreme.

Let me run a scenario by you real fast. Let's say I have a black wife (i'm white), let's also say we live in Mississippi. We live out in the country, hours from the (corrupt) police. Now, let's say that race tensions flare back up and the KKK wants to do their lynching and whipping campaigns again. My family will be targeted. (mixed kids, i'm white, she's black. Well. You know how it all goes)

So we're at home, relaxing by the fire and these THUGS in white hoods come up on my property with gasoline containers, AR-15's and AK47's. They threaten to burn us out, they threaten to hang my wife and to even whip me until death.

Under your plan, I would not be able to shoot armed these thugs and defend my family from this attack.

And why?

Did I kill someone before? Did I rape someone or try to kill someone?

No. I was charged with assault and battery from a simple fight in freshman year, in high school. So now, at 30 or so. I still cannot buy a gun. (Schools nowadays have a love for charging HS kids with assault charges from a simple fight over a girl or something stupid)

So what happens? I have a knife, a tazer and a bat. Ever hear the old adage "don't bring a knife to a gunfight"?

With your plan, my wife is hanged/hung from a tree, I am left with inch+ deep whip marks in my back, my kids were chained up inside and the house was set ablaze. And I couldn't do a darn thing about it just because me and an old buddy of mine had a small altercation in HS which the principal then over-dramatized..

Please rethink what you just wrote here brah.

The rest is somewhat okay.

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As for your question, what about this?


1. Convicted or murder or VIOLENT offenses, attempted murder being a big no-no; states should have the right to customize this law and make it so that only repeat offenders (say 3 strikers for ex.) would be DQ'ed, not just people who assaulted someone in a drunken bar fight one night

2. If you have schizophrenia, you cannot own a gun. Other things? It won't DQ you. INB4 we DQ people for being bipolar or anxious lol.

3. If you have been paroled within the last 5-10 years, you need to wait until after said 5 or 10 years before being able to buy a gun. If you have been released from prison within 3 years and have not been back to jail or prison; then you should be able to buy a gun. That is, all people who are released from PRISON must wait 3 full years before being eligible to purchase a firearm.
 
Polar Bum said:
I'll tell ya really blows.....tracers or star cluster flares causing vision washout on the older NVG's.
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Yeah that's why I have a GEn 3+ on my M4 home defense rifle. I have some old Gen 1 goggles and yeah I was looking for coyotes in the horse pasture when someone lit off a sky burst rocket. I got the GEn 3+ a few days later. I think I might get one of the even newer Gen 4s with the Plasma screen or maybe one of the top of the line thermal jobs.
 
Sweden said:
Seems I touched a raw nerve there,Turtle Dude. Is there really a need to go into full on hysteria mode and call me 'moronic' and 'stupid'?
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Don't take it personally Sweden. He does it to almost everyone yet when someone fights back he will be the first one to click that button on the bottom left faster than you can say AK47.
 
Bucky said:
Don't take it personally Sweden. He does it to almost everyone yet when someone fights back he will be the first one to click that button on the bottom left faster than you can say AK47.
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Ain't that the truth
 
Bucky said:
Don't take it personally Sweden. He does it to almost everyone yet when someone fights back he will be the first one to click that button on the bottom left faster than you can say AK47.
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you don't "fight back" you post complete nonsense that has no honesty or factual basis. I cannot help it if you are clueless about this subject and you constantly contradict your own silly statements.
 
TurtleDude said:
you don't "fight back" you post complete nonsense that has no honesty or factual basis. I cannot help it if you are clueless about this subject and you constantly contradict your own silly statements.
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This coming from someone that thinks our country has a drive-by knife stabbing epidemic in our country.

Ya, the problem isn't guns, its those pesky chefs with their sharp knives!
 
Bucky said:
This coming from someone that think our country has a drive-by knife stabbing epidemic in our country.

Ya, the problem isn't guns, its those pesky chefs with their sharp knives!
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where did I say that? that's an idiotic interpretation of anything I have ever said.

Your posts are constantly seen as idiotic. Your position on guns is fascist, stupid, ignorant and clueless. You want criminals to be able to loot and kill without facing armed opposition
 
TurtleDude said:
where did I say that? that's an idiotic interpretation of anything I have ever said.

Your posts are constantly seen as idiotic. Your position on guns is fascist, stupid, ignorant and clueless. You want criminals to be able to loot and kill without facing armed opposition
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Have you noticed the criminals with arms, they aren't being killed by armed citizens of the NRA?

We already have an armed opposition, its called the police. Our police force/FBI need to focus on tackling the underground drug/gun market led by gangs and the mafia.
 
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