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Heroes of the Second Amendment

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back in January of 2011 I wrote this right here after the monthly gun massacre in the news at that time

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...massacre-4.html?highlight=NRA+wall+of+martyrs
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I would hope this incident encourages the NRA to build a massive wall in Washington DC at their headquarters. They could call it the Heroes of the Second Amendment. On it could be inscribed all the names of innocent people who died so what we can live in a society which has more guns than people and any discussion of guns ultimately becomes a measuring contest of ones private parts.

I guess the only problem with the Heroes of the Second Amendment monument is that they quickly would run out of space.

Did that wall every get built?
 
back in January of 2011 I wrote this right here after the monthly gun massacre in the news at that time

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...massacre-4.html?highlight=NRA+wall+of+martyrs
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Did that wall every get built?

Well, as usual, Haymarket, you know you’re a favorite for sure. But I have to say it was a useless idea then, and it still is. ;)

However, it is about time you actually acknowledged what you want... the repeal of the Second Amendment. Git ta’ work!
 
back in January of 2011 I wrote this right here after the monthly gun massacre in the news at that time

https://www.debatepolitics.com/gene...massacre-4.html?highlight=NRA+wall+of+martyrs
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Did that wall every get built?

Well if you are wanting a “wall to the heroes of the second amendment” how about putting the names of all the people that have been saved by someone having a gun. There are lots of home invasions where the perpetrator (who was going to kill a family) was STOPPED by someone legally owning a firearm.
 
Well if you are wanting a “wall to the heroes of the second amendment” how about putting the names of all the people that have been saved by someone having a gun. There are lots of home invasions where the perpetrator (who was going to kill a family) was STOPPED by someone legally owning a firearm.

Because that wouldn't accomplish what he wants done.
 
Well if you are wanting a “wall to the heroes of the second amendment” how about putting the names of all the people that have been saved by someone having a gun. There are lots of home invasions where the perpetrator (who was going to kill a family) was STOPPED by someone legally owning a firearm.

sure - include them also.
 
Well, as usual, Haymarket, you know you’re a favorite for sure. But I have to say it was a useless idea then, and it still is. ;)

However, it is about time you actually acknowledged what you want... the repeal of the Second Amendment. Git ta’ work!

There is no need to repeal the Second Amendment. It is fine as written.
 
I'm sure that wall will get built when Trumps southern border wall gets finished. :roll:
 
The passage of nearly 7 years has not turned that comment into something profound however.

Quite the opposite as the passage of time and events like Orlando and Vegas and now Texas have only made it even more relevant.
 
Quite the opposite as the passage of time and events like Orlando and Vegas and now Texas have only made it even more relevant.

Please, do elaborate.
 
Please, do elaborate.

I am sure you realize that those and more were mass killings with firearms since I originally posted this idea.

You see, it is rather simple. We are NOT going to do a damn thing with laws or policy to speak to the problem of gun violence. The NRA owns too many Republicans in Congress and the rest are afraid of them. And we are going in the other direction regarding mental health.

The problem is NOT the Second Amendment or the vast vast majority of gun owners. The problem is the radical right wing of the NRA and their supporters who have hijacked the Amendment and the political movement around it and their refusal to enact any law - no matter how benign it is if touches upon firearms. They live permanently at the intersection of Slippery Slope Street and Paranoia Place and are holding the nation hostage tied to a cross right there at that intersection.

So lets just all stop the hypocrisy and the crying and the phony baloney hand writing and just admit it straight aloud - in a society such as ours where there are as many guns as people and we glorify gun culture and violence - there will be a price to pay for it. And the people who pay the price are the dead of in a small church in Texas and Sandy Hook and Vegas and Orlando and all the other such massacres that have happened here.

So lets admit these dead innocents at least paid the price so the rest of us can enjoy the perverted version of the Second Amendment that the NRA and the right wing have foisted upon the nation in the name of freedom and rights. Lets admit that others not only pay a price but they pay the ultimate price... they pay with their lives so that millions more than pretend that they can have any gun they want anywhere they want to use it and society be damned as their will and their desire and their need comes first above that of society.

So the least we can do is build a monument to them. That is what we do in this country to memorialize the innocent dead who paid a price that others did not. Wayne La Pierre did not pay the price. Charlton Heston did not pay the price. The delegates who hijacked the NRA at Cincinnati did not pay the price.

Dead innocents paid the price so its about time we honored them.

And maybe if the NRA has a giant wall in Washington with thousands of names on it , each a foot high, and each reminding us every day of the price these innocents paid, maybe after a year, or five or ten or even fifty, we will stop worshiping guns and the culture around them and we will take back the Second Amendment from the dangerous radicals who have hijacked it.

We can only hope.
 
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I am sure you realize that those and more were mass killings with firearms since I originally posted this idea.

Your wall idea is symbolic and does nothing to address the problem in a meaningful way. In other words, its excellent virtue signaling that solves nothing.
 
I am sure you realize that those and more were mass killings with firearms since I originally posted this idea.

And that warrants building a wall?
 
Your wall idea is symbolic and does nothing to address the problem in a meaningful way. In other words, its excellent virtue signaling that solves nothing.

Read the rest of the post.
 
Read the rest of the post.

If you cant bother to repost it, I cant be bothered to read it.

Edit: NM, its more posturing hand wringing virtue signaling crap.

We need to step up enforcement of existing laws, have harsher gun crime sentencing, and better mental health procedures.
 
I added much which explains it. Please go back and read it.

Already read it.
Still not seeing the point or the need for a wall.
 
It was a disgusting thread then, and it's more disgusting now.

You have something against honoring the dead who paid the ultimate price while you enjoy your rights?

That is incredibly insensitive, not to mention ... what was your word .... oh yes .... disgusting.
 
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