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Phoenix man posts photos of giving up his guns, gets death threats [W:259]

Well he is a Brit so the decision was pretty easy for him to make.
 
Bucky said:
Phoenix man turns over guns to police in response to Vegas shooting

Here you go
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Oh my gosh... from the link....

Mr. Pring:

I have an answer. If civilians do not have guns then mass shooting events will occur less frequently.
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"Phoenix police will accept guns that people no longer want,'' Howard said. "The guns will be tested and entered into NIBIN, which will allow us to compare them with known crime guns. In accordance with state law, the guns are then sold."


So he disarmed himself, and the police will sell the guns to another person.

All he did was relinquish ownership to someone else, reducing the number of guns in private hands by .... lets see let me do the math.... NADA.


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Genius. :doh
 
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Southern Dad said:
Now all the ne'er do wells in the area know there is one more unarmed sheep waiting for the wolves. Good job!
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I know right? How dare he not subscribe to the myth of the militia!

:roll:
 
Would it be wrong for one of his neighbor's to put a big sign in the yard that says that he promises not to use his firearms to protect the neighbors or their property?
 
Crovax said:
Or he will be killed because he no longer can defense himself and his son will grow up hating him
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Would you be able to live yourself if your kids got hold of your guns and killed themselves or someone else?

No matter how responsible the gun owner is, kids are very smart and likely can gain access to their parent's guns.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Yeah, even if you don't want guns in your house it doesn't seem the wisest course of action to advertise the fact. Like advertising publicly when you will be away on vacation.
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If you read through the entire article, he didn't sell all his guns.

A baseball bat will likely lead more protection for his family than his guns. The guns will actually more likely lead to an innocent civilian being killed.
 
Bucky said:
Would you be able to live yourself if your kids got hold of your guns and killed themselves or someone else?

No matter how responsible the gun owner is, kids are very smart and likely can gain access to their parent's guns.
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Well gosh. Who'dy thunkit.

Oddly enough me and my sisters grew up with out shooting ourselves.

So did my kids and their kids.

Come to think of it so do ALMOST ALL kids in gun owning households, statistically... otherwise the numbers of kids dying by accident from firearms annually would be in the millions instead of about 110.
 
Bucky said:
Would you be able to live yourself if your kids got hold of your guns and killed themselves or someone else?

No matter how responsible the gun owner is, kids are very smart and likely can gain access to their parent's guns.
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I have a biometric lock on my gun safe. If my kid is smart enough to get in the safe then they are smart enough not to shoot themselves
 
Crovax said:
I have a biometric lock on my gun safe. If my kid is smart enough to get in the safe then they are smart enough not to shoot themselves
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In 1 minute you can find out how to unlock a biometric lock with a paperclip on the internet.
 
Bucky said:
If you read through the entire article, he didn't sell all his guns.

A baseball bat will likely lead more protection for his family than his guns. The guns will actually more likely lead to an innocent civilian being killed.
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hey bucky-if an intruder has a knife and you have a baseball bat what happens

he leaves with a broken arm at worst

you die



seriously, that' how it works. I don't know how old you are but your typical knife attacking thug is 20 something, fast and tough. when one of those guys decides to creep on you, you best have more than a baseball bat

the current military knife fighting stance almost begs someone with a club or bat to attack your free arm-and when they do, the guy with the bat ends up being fillet o fish.

I beat a guy with a knife once and I had a stick. he was stoned and I was well trained. and I didn't first swing the stick-I used it as a bayonet and when I hit him hard then I broke his collarbone and his wrist and kicked his knife down the sewer-and then broke a bunch of other things just because I was pissed he ruined a jacket of mine
 
Goshin said:
For instance, despite all the fearmongering about firearms and suicide, I decline to concern myself with it... I am not suicidal. If I ever feel I might be at risk of suicidal ideation, then I might give my guns to a relative to hold until I get straightened out. But no suicidal ideation = no risk of suicide just because of have guns. Same same for other things like mass murder, something I'd never do so it is silly for me to worry about it.
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What we can conclude from the shooting is that Paddock was fairly typical of a gun user. He was a law-abiding gun owner and then snapped.

If it could happen to him, it can happen to anyone. Deteriorating mental health is something beyond our control. He became a law-abiding citizen with guns and then a terrorist with a gun, just like that.

I am all for indiviudual rights but some rights need massive regulation and control.
 
Crovax said:
You don't see the irony in giving up your guns and then having the leave the area because you no longer have any guns to protect yourself?
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You don't see the irony of people with guns issuing death threats to a now-unarmed civilian?

Sound familiar?
 
Bucky said:
What we can conclude from the shooting is that Paddock was fairly typical of a gun user. He was a law-abiding gun owner and then snapped.

If it could happen to him, it can happen to anyone. Deteriorating mental health is something beyond our control. He became a law-abiding citizen with guns and then a terrorist with a gun, just like that.

I am all for indiviudual rights but some rights need massive regulation and control.
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Typical gun owners don't commit mass murder.

Proof: depending on what study you believe, there are at least 80 million gun owners in the US.

If any significant percentage were inclined to mass mayhem, like say even 1% per lifetime, the annual body count for mass mayhem would be in the millions.
 
Bucky said:
What we can conclude from the shooting is that Paddock was fairly typical of a gun user. He was a law-abiding gun owner and then snapped.

If it could happen to him, it can happen to anyone. Deteriorating mental health is something beyond our control. He became a law-abiding citizen with guns and then a terrorist with a gun, just like that.

I am all for indiviudual rights but some rights need massive regulation and control.
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People don't snap. And mass shooters are no exception. you obviously are talking out of your ass on this.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...he-pentagon-shooting-they-don-t-just-snap?amp

Insights on why people 'snap' and kill - CNN.com

In almost...if not all of these cases...someone knew something. The person was off. So your are way off base. And as usual you take a swing at gun owners by saying anyone could just snap.

Well that certainly isn't shown in the numbers. How many lawful gun owners commit mass murder?
 
blackjack50 said:
People don't snap. And mass shooters are no exception. you obviously are talking out of your ass on this.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...he-pentagon-shooting-they-don-t-just-snap?amp

Insights on why people 'snap' and kill - CNN.com

In almost...if not all of these cases...someone knew something. The person was off. So your are way off base. And as usual you take a swing at gun owners by saying anyone could just snap.

Well that certainly isn't shown in the numbers. How many lawful gun owners commit mass murder?
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The Vegas shooter up until last week was a lawful gun owner. If I am taking a swipe at gun owners, so be it.
 
Goshin said:
Typical gun owners don't commit mass murder.

Proof: depending on what study you believe, there are at least 80 million gun owners in the US.

If any significant percentage were inclined to mass mayhem, like say even 1% per lifetime, the annual body count for mass mayhem would be in the millions.
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Sir, you fail to consider that the right wing media, funded by the NRA, is covering up a good 60-70 million massacres a year.
 
Crovax said:
I have a biometric lock on my gun safe. If my kid is smart enough to get in the safe then they are smart enough not to shoot themselves
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I grew up on a farm. I do not know a single one of the kids where I grew up in rural Ohio that didn't have access to guns. And none of us shot another person. When you live on a farm, you take a gun when you go into the fields and you take a gun when your ride the pastures. It's what you do. Today, kids are braindead from too much Call of Duty.
 
Southern Dad said:
I grew up on a farm. I do not know a single one of the kids where I grew up in rural Ohio that didn't have access to guns. And none of us shot another person. When you live on a farm, you take a gun when you go into the fields and you take a gun when your ride the pastures. It's what you do. Today, kids are braindead from too much Call of Duty.
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At least it makes them good shots
 
That clever old Indian, Ghandi, also said "You will invite Herr Hitler and Signor Mussolini to take what they want of the countries you call your possessions. Let them take possession of your beautiful island, with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these, but neither your souls, nor your minds. If these gentlemen choose to occupy your homes, you will vacate them. If they do not give you free passage out, you will allow yourself, man, woman and child, to be slaughtered, but you will refuse to owe allegiance to them." Ghandi was....kind of a douche IMO. But if you want to follow the guy...well...God Bless America, its a free country. Disarm yourself if you will.
 
cuban smokes said:
IMO this proves several things, two of which are foremost in my thoughts

(1) Pring set himself up for failure by publicly pumping his own agenda = stupid
(2) those offering messages of hate and/or death threats = stupid

yep; plenty of STUPID in the US ...................
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How do you know that the death threats were real?
How do you know that they came from Americans?
 
BTW...if you know guns, you will recognize that he is turning over to law enforcement a Ruger 10/22...on a tactical stock. Dood should have had his man card stripped just for that alone.
 
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