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Glowpun

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The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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Immediate counterfire?
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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You mean you think a liberal terrorist would be willing to go that far? ;)
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
And then we would have a situation similar to a Wild West saloon gun fight
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Yet we've had incidents where armed civilians have taken out active shooters with no collateral damage, and none where the involvement of an armed civilian has resulted in collateral damage.
 
Redundant, Haymarket already went down this ugly road.
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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I do not know, but I do know that some of us have thought through what we believe far enough that if that thing visits our lives we tend to not change our minds.

If we found ourselves doing that often then the inescapable conclusion would be that we do poor quality work.

I like to think that I am good.

:2wave:
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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the NRA has been very good in exposing the fact that gun banners main goal is to harass their political opponents and PRETEND those stupid laws are going to stop criminals who already ignore laws against murder or btw BEING A FELON IN POSSESSION OF A FIREARM. since GUNS are already COMPLETELY banned for felons and other people adjudicated too dangerous to possess firearms.

so people like YOU want laws that ONLY restrict and harass people who have never done anything wrong

and the reason why crime continues is because your side spends all its time trying to harass honest gun owners and honest gun owners retaliate by raising lots of money trying to defeat the morons who pretend that gun control is crime control when BOTH SIDES know it isn't

so why won't democrats drop the facade and stop pretending they care about stopping violent crime when their solutions are patently stupid or demonstrate a complete ignorance of firearms, firearms use and how criminals get guns
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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oh BTW I doubt such a massacre would be as easy at said convention. just saying..........
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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Actually, that would be Congress. In DC and at the state level.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
And then we would have a situation similar to a Wild West saloon gun fight
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LOL, are you speaking from having a clue? I don't think so. the reason why I doubt it would happen is the criminals wouldn't know who is armed. and unlike this situation, I doubt a sniper would be avail himself of such "wonderful" cover and concealment
 
MaggieD said:
Actually, that would be Congress. In DC and at the state level.
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why do I get the idea that the OP might actually desire such a scenario happening? we saw what that hateful CBS VP had to say about she not worrying about people who were probably "REPUGS" getting killed.
 
Glowpun said:
1) The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

2) If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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1) So has the ACLU - some actually respect at least certain portions of the constitution.

2) I suspect that there might be a good reason that mass shooters tend to avoid selecting NRA gatherings as soft targets of opportunity.
 
TurtleDude said:
why do I get the idea that the OP might actually desire such a scenario happening? we saw what that hateful CBS VP had to say about she not worrying about people who were probably "REPUGS" getting killed.
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Pity the fool.
 
TurtleDude said:
LOL, are you speaking from having a clue? I don't think so. the reason why I doubt it would happen is the criminals wouldn't know who is armed. and unlike this situation, I doubt a sniper would be avail himself of such "wonderful" cover and concealment
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What about in Las Vegas? The shooter was in a 32nd floor hotel room shooting down at a crowded concert, and from the video footage of the event, none of the panicking concert goers could tell where the gunshots were coming from. if someone had pulled out a firearm and tried to disable the shooter during that pandemonium, they might have been mistakenly identified as the shooter by the panicking crowd.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What about in Las Vegas? The shooter was in a 32nd floor hotel room shooting down at a crowded concert, and from the video footage of the event, none of the panicking concert goers could tell where the gunshots were coming from. if someone had pulled out a firearm and tried to disable the shooter during that pandemonium, they might have been mistakenly identified as the shooter by the panicking crowd.
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I guess you missed my 15 or so posts on several threads where I said people packing heat couldn't do much if anything about this situation.

oh btw since you are on record as only wanting universal background checks-and since the guy passed all sorts of background checks, I guess we both are on the same page that nothing =in terms of additional laws-would have stopped this guy. If a multi millionaire with lots of assets, and a completely clean record decides that in say 5-6 months he will kill as many people as possible and he doesn't tell ANYONE of that plan, makes not threats in the social media-doesn't go to a gun store saying "I want to get even with those bastards" etc.

guess what-short a cop getting lucky walking past the door as he starts shooting

nothing can stop him before he racks up a large number of casualties
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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likely the same as anybody else's.
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess you missed my 15 or so posts on several threads where I said people packing heat couldn't do much if anything about this situation.

oh btw since you are on record as only wanting universal background checks-and since the guy passed all sorts of background checks, I guess we both are on the same page that nothing =in terms of additional laws-would have stopped this guy. If a multi millionaire with lots of assets, and a completely clean record decides that in say 5-6 months he will kill as many people as possible and he doesn't tell ANYONE of that plan, makes not threats in the social media-doesn't go to a gun store saying "I want to get even with those bastards" etc.

guess what-short a cop getting lucky walking past the door as he starts shooting

nothing can stop him before he racks up a large number of casualties
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Therin lies the problem: up until the moment he began firing his guns at a crowded concert, everything the Las Vegas shooter did was legal.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Therin lies the problem: up until the moment he began firing his guns at a crowded concert, everything the Las Vegas shooter did was legal.
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WRONG! so many ways

the minute you intend to use a firearm for criminal activity and obtain it that alone is a felony. of course it cannot be prosecuted until after you actually commit the felony but that is pretty much true for most crimes. Breaking the window out-I am sure that could be written up as

vandalism

criminal mischief

wasn't the hotel a gun free zone-not a "criminal offense but trespassing with is a misdemeanor
 
TurtleDude said:
WRONG! so many ways

the minute you intend to use a firearm for criminal activity and obtain it that alone is a felony. of course it cannot be prosecuted until after you actually commit the felony but that is pretty much true for most crimes. Breaking the window out-I am sure that could be written up as

vandalism

criminal mischief

wasn't the hotel a gun free zone-not a "criminal offense but trespassing with is a misdemeanor
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It is not known when he bought the firearms he used in the shooting, but he did buy the firearms legally and passed the necessary background checks.

The shooter probably packed the guns in traveling cases and no one at the hotel raised any concerns over the issue of guns inside the man's luggage.

By the time he he had knocked out the window to begin his shooting, nothing could have stopped the shooter.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
It is not known when he bought the firearms he used in the shooting, but he did buy the firearms legally and passed the necessary background checks.

The shooter probably packed the guns in traveling cases and no one at the hotel raised any concerns over the issue of guns inside the man's luggage.

By the time he he had knocked out the window to begin his shooting, nothing could have stopped the shooter.
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there you go-that is all correct and true. he also built a firing platform. this was hard core premeditation

do you know he rigged up surveillance cameras in the hall way and one on a dinner cart so he could see if the PoPo was trying to flank him
 
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