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Mass Murders

Unitedwestand13 said:
Therin lies the problem: up until the moment he began firing his guns at a crowded concert, everything the Las Vegas shooter did was legal.
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That seems to be a problem we face with all crimes. Until they actually commit a crime we cannot and should not start punishing people. Of course we could just grab people randomly off the street and throw them in prison because at some time in the future they may commit a crime.
 
TurtleDude said:
there you go-that is all correct and true. he also built a firing platform. this was hard core premeditation

do you know he rigged up surveillance cameras in the hall way and one on a dinner cart so he could see if the PoPo was trying to flank him
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It just baffles me that nobody saw anything. People being aware of what is going on around them is the best chance of someone like this getting busted before he starts shooting. Clearly somebody saw something suspicious and did not report it.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
That seems to be a problem we face with all crimes. Until they actually commit a crime we cannot and should not start punishing people. Of course we could just grab people randomly off the street and throw them in prison because at some time in the future they may commit a crime.
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Why randomly? Data mining should let the police patch together a profile that ciuld signal danger of anti societal behavior. The Chinese have started an official program to rate people for just such probabilities and to be treated accordingly.
 
joG said:
Why randomly? Data mining should let the police patch together a profile that ciuld signal danger of anti societal behavior. The Chinese have started an official program to rate people for just such probabilities and to be treated accordingly.
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I think Stalin proved that to be a very effective way to rule the people with an iron hand. Round up and kill a few hundred thousand people with your data mining and there is a good chance you will get the next mass shooters before they strike. Hell we could get good at this and take them out as children saving all that education cost.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
I think Stalin proved that to be a very effective way to rule the people with an iron hand. Round up and kill a few hundred thousand people with your data mining and there is a good chance you will get the next mass shooters before they strike. Hell we could get good at this and take them out as children saving all that education cost.
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But he, Hitler or Mao would have been so much more efficient with computers.
 
Glowpun said:
The NRA has been very successful in preventing a lot of laws from happening.

If there were to be mass murders at a NRA conclave resulting in the deaths of scores of NRA devotees, what will be the reaction of the NRA?
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Massive and exterminating counter fire!! NRA does not call 911! :)


NRA = 5 millions members plus many who are not members continue to support the 2nd amendment.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What about in Las Vegas? The shooter was in a 32nd floor hotel room shooting down at a crowded concert, and from the video footage of the event, none of the panicking concert goers could tell where the gunshots were coming from. if someone had pulled out a firearm and tried to disable the shooter during that pandemonium, they might have been mistakenly identified as the shooter by the panicking crowd.
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a similar thing happened at Twin Peaks in Waco, TX in May, 2015

Bandidos & Cossacks exchanged gun fire & then police killed a few bikers with ARs, blaming all the deaths on the bikers .......
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
What about in Las Vegas? The shooter was in a 32nd floor hotel room shooting down at a crowded concert, and from the video footage of the event, none of the panicking concert goers could tell where the gunshots were coming from. if someone had pulled out a firearm and tried to disable the shooter during that pandemonium, they might have been mistakenly identified as the shooter by the panicking crowd.
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What if someone in the hotel was armed?
 
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