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So just because?
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Excellent...so We the people can now exercise ...oh, whats that word??
The one presidents use when they ignore or intentionally fail to enforce or nations laws?
Oh..yes, "prosecutorial discretion".
Complete ban on semi-automatics as they no good for home defence or hunting.
Lifelong ban on owning guns if you have committed a violent crime or been diagnosed with a mental ilness.
Complete ban on semi-automatics as they no good for home defence or hunting.
Restrict shop sales to licensed gun stores only.
Lifelong ban on owning guns if you have committed a violent crime or been diagnosed with a mental ilness.
Complete ban on semi-automatics as they no good for home defence or hunting.
Restrict shop sales to licensed gun stores only.
He also bought 33 guns in the last 12 months, the majority of which were rifles. According to USA Today, apparently multiple rifle purchases do not have to be reported to the ATF, unlike multiple handgun purchases (you're more than welcome to fact check that for me). I find it interesting you kind of glossed over this point.OK-guess what? this killer in vegas bought lots of guns over several years
Cool. So?and most if not all, involved a BACKGROUND CHECK-yep, he was checked and guess what, there was NO disqualifying features. He also had a pilots license too.
It depends what you do, I suppose. If you begin screeching and shilling like you are wont to do, then I'll probably either screech and shill about how you just want to see innocent people die and want to pray at the altar of the almighty gun, no matter how many children have to die for your religion. Or I'll leave the thread (most likely) and let you say all the stupid things you want to say.so what are you going to do-
Somebody that is going to commit murder can simply lie and not say they wish to commit murder upon purchasing the gun, and of they habe no background a background check will prove nothing.
Also thru can simply purchase a gun from someone.
He only needed two. If we had processes in place to detect those, some just wouldn'tbuy enough to trigger a response. We do have rules that two or more handgun purchases in a short period must be reported to ATF.He also bought 33 guns in the last 12 months the majority of which were rifles. I find it interesting you kind of glossed over this
If, however, you'd like to have a reasonable discussion about how increased gun control isn't about stopping or preventing any and all shootings, but rather to lessen the risk and minimize the damage of future shootings, if you'd like to provide the ways you think we could do a better job of keeping dangerous people from hurting innocents, then I'll be more than happy to have that conversation with you.
Somehow when something like this happens people who support the 2nd amendment get blamed for what a truly mad man has done.
The NRA is blamed, it seems everyone but the actual madman killer takes the blame.
Wonder why that is?
My point is that perhaps 33 would be a tip to monitor him more closely. That's all I'm saying. Again, no one is arguing we're going to be able to stop everything. We may not have even been able to stop him, he obviously was very meticulous in his planning. But maybe we stop the next person and then it is worth it.He only needed two.
Thanks for the confirmation.We do have rules that two or more handgun purchases in a short period must be reported to ATF.
I think an important thing to remember since both Columbine and Virginia Tech is that the training to respond to these types of situations has drastically changed, not just among law enforcement, but also with the general populace. The conditions which allowed the Virginia Tech shooter to kill so many people MIGHT not happen again, depending on the potential victims involved.Go for it. As a baseline, the Virginia Tech shooter used a pair of handguns with 10 round magazines to kill 32 adults, so thas the bar one what magazine capacity restrictions will allow. There's no reason to believe that either of the only two mass shootings with ore casualties would have been significantly affected by such a restriction or that either shooter would have not been able to acquire higher capacity magazines in spite of a restriction.
Why are "they no good for home defence or hunting"? Please be specific.
You think an AK47 is a suitable gun for dealing with a burgler or hunting a deer? Perhaps I should have been more specific and said semi-auto rifles like AKs or M16s.
many of the anti gun posters and more than a few politicians who try to pretend they are pro second amendment while toeing the anti NRA line claim that all they really want is all firearms sales-private or the phony gun show nonsense-controlled by a background check
Some will claim that "its only a form" but many of these posters and politicians claim its not true that they want additional restrictions other than that background check requirement.
OK-guess what? this killer in vegas bought lots of guns over several years and most if not all, involved a BACKGROUND CHECK-yep, he was checked and guess what, there was NO disqualifying features. He also had a pilots license too.
so your beloved background checks didn't do anything and won't with someone like this
so what are you going to do-
stick with background checks
admit that you now want something else
post up
many of the anti gun posters and more than a few politicians who try to pretend they are pro second amendment while toeing the anti NRA line claim that all they really want is all firearms sales-private or the phony gun show nonsense-controlled by a background check
Some will claim that "its only a form" but many of these posters and politicians claim its not true that they want additional restrictions other than that background check requirement.
OK-guess what? this killer in vegas bought lots of guns over several years and most if not all, involved a BACKGROUND CHECK-yep, he was checked and guess what, there was NO disqualifying features. He also had a pilots license too.
so your beloved background checks didn't do anything and won't with someone like this
so what are you going to do-
stick with background checks
admit that you now want something else
post up
Lifelong ban on owning guns if you have committed a violent crime or been diagnosed with a mental ilness.
Complete ban on semi-automatics as they no good for home defence or hunting.
Restrict shop sales to licensed gun stores only.
But, that would be....illegal.
Don't we have laws against that?
But, that would be....illegal.
Don't we have laws against that?
what do you think of his claim that semi autos have no value for self defense or hunting?
Guns are as common as horse turds in the USA. Casual personal sales happen all the time. I don't think background checks are necessary or reliable. There is a flaw in the National Psyche that needs attention. Lack of respect for life? Citizens living in their imagination, instead of reality? A National War Policy that promotes "death and destruction" on a large scale with inadequate foundations in morality and glorified in the MSM? I grew up in a rural area and everybody has always had guns. Hundreds of millions of guns all over the USA and the problem manifests itself in our current reality suggesting the problem is not the guns, but psychological? Are background checks going to cure that????
1.) Lifelong ban on owning guns if you have committed a violent crime or been diagnosed with a mental ilness.
2.) Complete ban on semi-automatics as they no good for home defence or hunting.
3.) Restrict shop sales to licensed gun stores only.