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Jimmy kimmel brings knife to a gun fight, results predicatble

Thats all horse**** and you know it. More people die in any given month in Chicago than died in Las Vegas and none of the celebrities or other rat douchebag politicians have done or said ****. Stop pretending you give a ****. Its embarrassing.
That's "won't anyone think of the children" over-emotional snowflake meltdown. I don't know what you believe is being ignored, or why you believe no one cares, but you've an intellectually void delusional nightmare perspective. Perhaps you should meet with social workers and other public servants to see what the real world looks like.
 
Celebrities....

Guns are bad. For all of you. Except for my armed security guards. I need them. But you guys dont need guns.

Don't armed security guards have to get a license?
 
Kimmel demands that I surrender my ability to protect me and my family. Isn't it only right that he does the same?

Where did Kimmel say you couldn't have guns for self defense?
 
this shooter passed all background checks that were done hmmm.

there you go.

That is totally unrelated but....
Hmm ..He brought 12 AR-15's to the "party" all bought legally. We need to bring back the "semi-machine gun" ban too. Mass shooting have soared since it was lifted. Assault rifles are nothing but machine guns in sheeps clothing. No gun that has a full auto model available too should be sold to the public and neither should the ammo.
 
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That is totally unrelated but....
Hmm ..He brought 12 AR-15's to the "party" all bought legally. We need to bring back the "semi-machine gun" ban too. Mass shooting have soared since it was lifted.

The "ban" didn't actually ban any weapons at all, just some cosmetic features. Fully functional AR-15s were still for sale and all pre-ban AR-15s were grandfathered.

Of the 56 mass shootings since then, 15 had weapons that would have been "banned" by the AWB.

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones’ Investigation – Mother Jones
 
That is totally unrelated but....
Hmm ..He brought 12 AR-15's to the "party" all bought legally. We need to bring back the "semi-machine gun" ban too. Mass shooting have soared since it was lifted. Assault rifles are nothing but machine guns in sheeps clothing. No gun that has a full auto model available should be sold to the public.

there is no such thing as a semi-machine gun. you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
no they haven't soared. mass shootings are still only about 2% of all shootings out there according to the FBI, but don't let
facts stop a good rant.

they are not assault rifles either. assault rifles have a selector on them that allows the user to switch between single, burst and full auto.
please see the ATF for official definitions for words.

the only guns that are like that are pre 1986 and are heavily regulated by the ATF.
you do not know what you are talking about.

PS it isn't unrelated at all. you wanted background checks. he went through all the background checks and passed.
 
this shooter passed all background checks that were done hmmm.

there you go.
Yes...but just because he passed background checks and it didnt stop this from happening doesnt mean we shouldnt use this tragedy as an opportunity to call for MOAR background checks that we know will be completely ineffective in preventing incidents such as these. Its not really a question of it will be effective in preventing tragedies. Its so we can honor those dead Trump voters by letting them know that we didnt let their deaths go to waste.
 
That's "won't anyone think of the children" over-emotional snowflake meltdown. I don't know what you believe is being ignored, or why you believe no one cares, but you've an intellectually void delusional nightmare perspective. Perhaps you should meet with social workers and other public servants to see what the real world looks like.
No...thats pointing out your bull**** and hyocrisy. And you know that which is why you defer to the 'snowflake' rhetoric...because someone convinced you people THAT was an effective diversion whenever someone points out the stupidity of your comments.

Do you get it yet that it doesnt work?
 
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there is no such thing as a semi-machine gun. you seriously don't know what you are talking about.
no they haven't soared. mass shootings are still only about 2% of all shootings out there according to the FBI, but don't let
facts stop a good rant.

they are not assault rifles either. assault rifles have a selector on them that allows the user to switch between single, burst and full auto.
please see the ATF for official definitions for words.

the only guns that are like that are pre 1986 and are heavily regulated by the ATF.
you do not know what you are talking about.

PS it isn't unrelated at all. you wanted background checks. he went through all the background checks and passed.

All guns that have a full auto variants are just machine guns slightly modified to fire single shots. Their design and mechanisms are made for rapid firing and a simple bump stock turns them into 600RPM execution machines. All 12 of the shooters Ar-15's had that simple and legal modification.
 
I want to see them show some real stones and go after the illegal guns in the inner cities first. Of course....first they would have to actually give a **** about the dead people in the inner cities.

The solution is seen as a bigger problem politically - more police "hassling" black males and, of course, more black males in prison. The last thing that the demorat political leaders of these inner cities need is more race riots. So long as the sheeple vote correctly then there is no sense getting too excited unless the problem spills into other areas. It seems that many of these inner city areas have been desiganated as free crime zones.
 
We know that the ultimate goal is an all out ban.

We all know that would be impossible.

Who needs foreign enemies when we have the NRA?
 
The liberal medias fawned al over him but the rw ,pro 2a folks, tore him a new one.

I've seen way too many liberals completely get embarrassed by the 2a folks, becuase ,whether or not you agree with them, they know their stuff.

Jimmy Kimmel: Stay Out Of The Gun Debate If You Can?t Be Honest
Jimmy Kimmel Ate His Own Argument for Gun Control | National Review
Jimmy Kimmel's Gun Control Comments After Las Vegas Shooting Are Misinformed | National Review

Kimmel needs to go back to trying to be funny rather than trying to be the voice leftists over things he's clearly not knowledgeable about (guns and healthcare so far, I'm sure there'll be more).
 
because???

In the first one, they say, " For instance, you claim that “In June of last year, the NRA fought to make sure people on the no-fly list can buy guns.” This is a lie, plain and simple."
And then go on to say, "What the NRA was fighting against last summer was not a provision barring people on the no-fly list from buying guns; it was a provision barring innocent Americans who had been placed on the terror watch list from buying guns."
What's the purpose of a 'terror watch list' if you're going to watch them buy guns? Can you imagine the uproar if it was found oud that the Las Vegas shooter was on the 'terror watch list' while he accumulated his arsenal?

Later there's this, "Mr. Kimmel, you also level an incredible charge at President Trump, claiming that “in February, he…signed a bill that made it easier for people with severe mental illness to buy guns legally.” This is a gross and intellectually shameless distortion of what that bill actually accomplished.The rule change Trump authorized in February did not, as a policy, “make it easier for people with severe mental illness to buy guns legally.” Rather, it repealed a law that forbid “[Social Security] beneficiaries with mental impairments who also have a third party manage their benefits” from buying firearms.

Quibbling over semantics. Then there's this... "Lastly, Mr. Kimmel, you claim that “the House of Representatives is voting on a piece of legislation this week…to legalize the sale of silencers for guns.” This is false. The proposed bill will not “legalize the sale of silencers.” Rather, it “streamlines outmoded processes for acquiring this equipment.” Silencers are already perfectly legal; they’re just very difficult to acquire."

More quibbling.
Listen, I'm not making a judgement about the proposed legislation, I'm just saying it was all badly presented. And from the second one, there's this paragraph...
"Last night, in the course of his much-vaunted gun-control soliloquy, Jimmy Kimmel said the following: I’ve been reading comments from people saying, ‘This is terrible, but there’s nothing we can do about it.’ But I disagree with that intensely, because of course there’s something we can do about it. There are a lot of things we can do about it. But we don’t. Which is interesting, because when someone with a beard attacks us, we tap phones, we invoke travel bans, we build walls, we take every possible precaution to make sure it doesn’t happen again. But when an American buys a gun and kills other Americans, then there’s nothing we can do about that."

Which they rebut with..."There’s a glaring problem with this line of reasoning, and it’s a problem that undercuts his entire spiel. That problem? That Kimmel is in fact opposed to “our” responses to those dastardly “people with beards,” and on the grounds that they don’t work. By his own admission, Kimmel is not in favor of Trump’s travel ban, and he’s not in favor of Trump’s wall. To Kimmel, in fact, these policies serve as solid and mockworthy examples of the sort of ill-advised, knee-jerk reactions that we tend to see in the aftermath of tragedy. Despite this opposition, he’s apparently for emulating that approach when the impetus is gun control,"

How friggin circular could you argue? If the author, by his logic, approves the anti-terror measures he must approve similar anti-mass killing measures. By his own argument.

The third link is a repeat of the second.
 
I want to see them show some real stones and go after the illegal guns in the inner cities first. Of course....first they would have to actually give a **** about the dead people in the inner cities.

How're your stones? Are they up to you saying what you think should be done about this problem? Mass killings like this latest, I mean. Are they acceptable, or should something be done? It's one or the other. If you do nothing, you're accepting.
 
Yes...but just because he passed background checks and it didnt stop this from happening doesnt mean we shouldnt use this tragedy as an opportunity to call for MOAR background checks that we know will be completely ineffective in preventing incidents such as these. Its not really a question of it will be effective in preventing tragedies. Its so we can honor those dead Trump voters by letting them know that we didnt let their deaths go to waste.

who says they were trump voters?
no it proved that just because you do background checks it means
squat.

background checks for handguns are already in place.
meaningless legislation for the sake of meaningless legislation is nothing more than
a feel good method.
 
All guns that have a full auto variants are just machine guns slightly modified to fire single shots. Their design and mechanisms are made for rapid firing and a simple bump stock turns them into 600RPM execution machines. All 12 of the shooters Ar-15's had that simple and legal modification.

the left wing hysterics are trying to outdo each other with frenzied dishonest nonsense. they smelled blood and its time to launch socialist jihad onto gun rights with a barrage of blatant lies, incredibly dishonest hyperbole and a complete lack of understanding of firearms
 
We all know that would be impossible.

Who needs foreign enemies when we have the NRA?

you are actually telling the truth. nothing is more hateful to you than the NRA keeping Hillary out of office. so someone of your politics, the NRA is a real enemy while the jihadists blowing up our troops with IEDs really don't impact your life.
 
How're your stones? Are they up to you saying what you think should be done about this problem? Mass killings like this latest, I mean. Are they acceptable, or should something be done? It's one or the other. If you do nothing, you're accepting.
Sure. Commit to no longer engaging in the mindless "Background checks!" "Gun Registration!" etc bull**** and we can have a helluva dialogue. But first...stop trying to use tragic incidents to promote an ideological cause and measures you KNOW wont make an impact.

They are all different, arent they? For example...this incident...we have yet to see what may or may not have been his trigger. So why are you trying to find a solution to a problem without knowing what the problem is first? Sandy Hook...that was a great opportunity to have a dialogue on private ownership of firearms. I am one of those that believes there is a responsibility with owning weapons in a home with someone like Adam Lanza in the home. Me...I would have said its time to seriously consider if the weapons in your home are truly secure if you have a violent angry mentally ill individual in your home.
 
Who supports no controls over guns? Nobody.
The devil is in the details.

I'm one... Here and there you'll find others. It's useless, of course, given our national neurosis, but we soldier on.
 
How're your stones? Are they up to you saying what you think should be done about this problem? Mass killings like this latest, I mean. Are they acceptable, or should something be done? It's one or the other. If you do nothing, you're accepting.

And how would you have prevented this latest mass shooting?
 
All guns that have a full auto variants are just machine guns slightly modified to fire single shots. Their design and mechanisms are made for rapid firing and a simple bump stock turns them into 600RPM execution machines. All 12 of the shooters Ar-15's had that simple and legal modification.

yet there have been millions of those stocks sold. hmmm interesting that only 1 person has used them for that purpose.
most people are just wasting ammo in a field somewhere. no they are not designed for rapid fire.

you seriously need to learn what you are talking about. i suggest reading an actual gun forum instead of whatever anti-gun meme you have been
reading.

since 98% of them are not used as execution machines you are still wrong.
 
yet there have been millions of those stocks sold. hmmm interesting that only 1 person has used them for that purpose.
most people are just wasting ammo in a field somewhere. no they are not designed for rapid fire.

you seriously need to learn what you are talking about. i suggest reading an actual gun forum instead of whatever anti-gun meme you have been
reading.

since 98% of them are not used as execution machines you are still wrong.

dishonesty and lying are the main stock in trade for anti gun advocates. its amazing the bald faced lies and nonsense they spew
 
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