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What if 100 NRA members were killed?[W:1249]

Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

OpportunityCost said:
Ever notice you go too far when your argument becomes tenuous and you try to pass misinformation about other posters?

You are right about one thing, insofar as I have a religion, the rights of the individual are a sacred part of it.
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No misinformation was passed. You just confirmed I am correct about your personal crusade based on your personal religion.
 
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haymarket said:
There were armed people at the Vegas concert but the killer positioned himself so that it did not matter.
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A handful of security guards is not the same as a armed crowd.
 
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haymarket said:
That line of argument proved not to be very useful in the Vegas slaughter no matter if people there were armed.
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Actually it would have.Because they would have been firing back at the shooter.

Plus if the crowd was armed then the shooter would have never picked that place.
 
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jamesrage said:
Actually it would have.Because they would have been firing back at the shooter.

Plus if the crowd was armed then the shooter would have never picked that place.
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It appears that even the police did not fire back.
 
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jamesrage said:
If people had guns at the event then the mass shooter would have chosen another target.
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Why? He had perfect cover and was willing to die. No you are simply wrong
 
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haymarket said:
No misinformation was passed. You just confirmed I am correct about your personal crusade based on your personal religion.
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Please don't make accusations regarding religion and portray me as a religious fanatic. I am not the one proposing killing 100 on the other side of the political aisle, you have a lot of gall to say I am engaged in a crusade.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
Until we try - we will never know.
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My point was that we have been trying since 1968 so we do know. Any anti gun legislation will only help feelings.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Please don't make accusations regarding religion and portray me as a religious fanatic. I am not the one proposing killing 100 on the other side of the political aisle, you have a lot of gall to say I am engaged in a crusade.
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You already stated it with your admission of my claim in your post 444.
 
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fmw said:
My point was that we have been trying since 1968 so we do know. Any anti gun legislation will only help feelings.
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Trying and achieving are two very different things. It took us centuries to get into this situation, it will take a longtime to get out of it and will take many different efforts in many different areas by many different groups and agencies and peoples.
 
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haymarket said:
Trying and achieving are two very different things. It took us centuries to get into this situation, it will take a longtime to get out of it and will take many different efforts in many different areas by many different groups and agencies and peoples.
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That certainly nails it down.
 
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haymarket said:
Reality is complicated.
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Reality is as clear as a bell. It is the human interaction with it that is complicated.
 
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haymarket said:
There were armed people at the Vegas concert but the killer positioned himself so that it did not matter.
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However, had someone in the hotel was armed, they could've intervened.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
You already stated it with your admission of my claim in your post 444.
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I am sorry you don't feel the rights of others is sacred. What's wrong with you?
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

fmw said:
Reality is as clear as a bell. It is the human interaction with it that is complicated.
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yes - and human beings and their interactions are part of reality.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

OpportunityCost said:
I am sorry you don't feel the rights of others is sacred. What's wrong with you?
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Oh - I feel our constitutional rights are sacred - I would hope all citizens feel that way. You are not special. I just do not use it as an empty banner slogan to justify other manner of extremist politics. So in that we differ greatly.
 
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Maccabee said:
However, had someone in the hotel was armed, they could've intervened.
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And armed people did just that.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
Oh - I feel our constitutional rights are sacred - I would hope all citizens feel that way. You are not special. I just do not use it as an empty banner slogan to justify other manner of extremist politics. So in that we differ greatly.
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You are claiming I am extreme in a thread you based upon killing 100 people. You should examine your own views and stop tossing labels to distract from your terrible rhetoric.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

OpportunityCost said:
You are claiming I am extreme in a thread you based upon killing 100 people. You should examine your own views and stop tossing labels to distract from your terrible rhetoric.
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Advocating the killing of 100 people would be extreme. Taking a page from recent events and posing a hypothetical about such an incident to determine possible effects is called teaching.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
And armed people did just that.
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It took them ten minutes to get there and 70 minutes to breach the room. Had someone on the floor with him was armed, it would've ended a lot sooner.
 
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haymarket said:
Advocating the killing of 100 people would be extreme. Taking a page from recent events and posing a hypothetical about such an incident to determine possible effects is called teaching.
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Or, you know, opportunism; disgusting opportunism at best.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
yes - and human beings and their interactions are part of reality.
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Yes. I suppose it is a circular thing.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

haymarket said:
Others here have and you all seem to be playing for the same team wearing the same uniform and running from the same playbook.
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You are making it up as you go along. Nobody has suggested the government cannot regulate firearms at some level and they in fact do. Fully automatic weapons have been banned since the prohibition era. And chances are the bump stocks used in the Vegas shooting will either be banned or heavily regulated.
 
Re: What if 100 NRA members were killed?

ObamacareFail said:
You are making it up as you go along. Nobody has suggested the government cannot regulate firearms at some level and they in fact do. Fully automatic weapons have been banned since the prohibition era. And chances are the bump stocks used in the Vegas shooting will either be banned or heavily regulated.
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Terrific.
 
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