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How guns *cause* violence

Bucky

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Brad Bushman, a psychology and communications professor at Ohio State University, takes a broader view. Bushman researches the psychological mechanisms behind gun violence: Does having a weapon around make us more aggressive?

Over the years, Bushman explains, dozens of studies have confirmed what researchers dub the “weapons effect”: People act more aggressively in the presence of a weapon, especially when something angers them. One study by researchers at Harvard found that drivers with guns in the car were more likely to engage in road rage, closely tailing other drivers and making obscene gestures—even when researchers controlled for things like gender, age, urbanization, and more.

Similar studies in labs have found that the presence of a gun causes participants enraged by another person to choose to make that person physically uncomfortable for longer periods of time, from delivering more electric shocks to forcing them to hear louder noises or keep their arms plunged in ice water for longer. In a review of 50 such studies, including more than 5,000 participants, Bushman found not only that the weight of the evidence support the weapons effect, but that the effect was also seen, though not to the same degree, with those who hadn’t been angered.

A 2006 study went a step further, connecting biological changes with aggression. Here’s how it went: Researchers took saliva samples of 30 male college students in order to test their levels of testosterone, a hormone typically associated with aggression. Then, the students were told to hang out in a room by themselves—inside of which was a TV, a couch, and either a pellet gun or a kids toy—and write down instructions on how either the gun or the toy worked.

After 15 minutes, the students gave another saliva sample, and then they were told to add some hot sauce to a cup of water that they were led to believe another participant would have to drink. The results: Those participants in the rooms with pellet guns had higher increases in testosterone, and the more the testosterone levels increased, the more hot sauce they added to the water.

The Human Brain Reacts to Guns as if They Were Spiders or Snakes – Mother Jones

I am strictly talking about the psychological/negative impact guns have on humans. We would definitely have even more conclusive evidence however the CDC has been defunded from the gun zealots in our country.
 
Damn!! I never thought of it that way.

I like guns and I also like hot sauce so, obviously, I'm hyper aggressive and a danger to myself and everyone around me!

Thanks for setting me straight. I never saw the danger.
 
The Human Brain Reacts to Guns as if They Were Spiders or Snakes – Mother Jones

I am strictly talking about the psychological/negative impact guns have on humans. We would definitely have even more conclusive evidence however the CDC has been defunded from the gun zealots in our country.

Not quite. :no:

People cause violence.

There was mass violence long before guns...there will be violence after we develop deathrays or other Sci-Fi weapons.

A gun is only a tool...one of many available if a person seeks to do violence.

The point is, as long as people who don't "think violently" have access to the same tools as those who do "think violently," they can defend themselves when others choose to use such tools for violent purposes.

Give it a rest. :coffeepap:
 
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Doesn't matter.


You could get the same effect picking up a big stick no doubt.


And people were killing each other in job lots long before guns.


I've been packing a gun over 30 years. Most likely saved my life a couple of times. Been quite a few times I could legally have shot someone if I'd really wanted to, but I chose restraint and the opposition chose prudence.


Rationality and choice. Perhaps you've heard of it....
 
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:doh

*sigh*

Yeah, we get it..."Guns terrify me to the point of hysteria, and I will not rest until I have everyone as terrified as I am".

Bucky......have you ever considered the possibility that it may require less effort on your part to confront your fears rather than trying to spread it to the rest of the world?

Dude.....even Typhoid Mary had to take a break occasionally.
 
:doh

*sigh*

Yeah, we get it..."Guns terrify me to the point of hysteria, and I will not rest until I have everyone as terrified as I am".

Bucky......have you ever considered the possibility that it may require less effort on your part to confront your fears rather than trying to spread it to the rest of the world?

Dude.....even Typhoid Mary had to take a break occasionally.

what is the real gut buster is that he apparently developed his fear in an area where people who didn't have firearms were subject to genocide by those who did
 
what is the real gut buster is that he apparently developed his fear in an area where people who didn't have firearms were subject to genocide by those who did

Yeah, I saw that...I have been there, stationed at Camp Bondsteel. They had no way to defend themselves....its only natural that it left them mentally scarred.

I cant even be mad at him, but I hope he gets some help.
 
yeah, I saw that...I have been there, stationed at. Camp Bondsteel. They had no way to defend themselves.

I think in one case the Muslims were ordered to surrender their weapons with the promise that about 125 Canadian peace keepers armed with LMGs and M16 rifles would protect them from the Serbian forces that had tanks and heavy machine guns and artillery
 
Damn!! I never thought of it that way.

I like guns and I also like hot sauce so, obviously, I'm hyper aggressive and a danger to myself and everyone around me!

Thanks for setting me straight. I never saw the danger.

Good grief, that thing about pellet guns, saliva and hot sauce has got to be one of the stupidest things I've seen in my life. How can anyone take that seriously?
 
I think in one case the Muslims were ordered to surrender their weapons with the promise that about 125 Canadian peace keepers armed with LMGs and M16 rifles would protect them from the Serbian forces that had tanks and heavy machine guns and artillery

The UN was a joke.....the Serbs even took Dutch UN peacekeepers hostage in the early states during the 1995 time period.
 
Good grief, that thing about pellet guns, saliva and hot sauce has got to be one of the stupidest things I've seen in my life. How can anyone take that seriously?

Its not science...its a conclusion in search of a supporting narrative.
 
Its not science...its a conclusion in search of a supporting narrative.

Some people, after handling a pellet gun, put more hot sauce in a cup of water and that's supposed to prove something? There's, like, 100 different things that could account for that. Is this similar to climate change science?
 
Some people, after handling a pellet gun, put more hot sauce in a cup of water and that's supposed to prove something? There's, like, 100 different things that could account for that. Is this similar to climate change science?

I know, right? This wouldn't even qualify as "junk science"......if this is the kind of methodology and controls the author uses for research, I wouldn't let him bake me a microwave muffin.
 
I know, right? This wouldn't even qualify as "junk science"......if this is the kind of methodology and controls the author uses for research, I wouldn't let him bake me a microwave muffin.

I bet I could put together completely arbitrary actions, ask people to do them and have some, what appears to be, pattern emerge if I do it often enough.
 
I bet I could put together completely arbitrary actions, ask people to do them and have some, what appears to be, pattern emerge if I do it often enough.

its what happens when groups like the Joyce Foundation or Soros funds your research and wants a conclusion
 
I bet I could put together completely arbitrary actions, ask people to do them and have some, what appears to be, pattern emerge if I do it often enough.

Yes. Confirmation Bias Science. Everyone that drinks water eventually dies, therefore , water causes death. :screwy
 
its what happens when groups like the Joyce Foundation or Soros funds your research and wants a conclusion

I get enough "funding" and I'll add a few drops of hot sauce myself.
 
Yeah, I saw that...I have been there, stationed at Camp Bondsteel. They had no way to defend themselves....its only natural that it left them mentally scarred.

I can't even be mad at him, but I hope he gets some help.

I was a refugee that fled a war-torn country. I didn't speak English. I'd appreciate it if you and TurtleDude didn't mock my culture and my upbringing. You know nothing about me.
 
I was a refugee that fled a war-torn country. I didn't speak English. I'd appreciate it if you and TurtleDude didn't mock my culture and my upbringing. You know nothing about me.

I'm not mocking you....more to the point, having been there and seen firsthand the conditions, I have a better understanding of your mindset.

I don't claim to fully understand what you and others like you experienced, there is simply no way I can ; but I do understand how trauma can affect ones perceptions and leave lasting scars.

That being said, while I can understand why you would feel the way you do, don't expect to changes anyone's mind here about the way they feel about the Constitution and the Second Amendment. We will just have to agree to disagree.
 
Yesssss.....Yessssssssssss...its the triggering! Gun owners are compelled....

120+million law abiding gun owners. Millions and millions of them shooting on ranges across the country every day. THAT explains why we have people just breaking out in blood orgies at the mere sight of a handgun...

never.
 
Yesssss.....Yessssssssssss...its the triggering! Gun owners are compelled....

120+million law abiding gun owners. Millions and millions of them shooting on ranges across the country every day. THAT explains why we have people just breaking out in blood orgies at the mere sight of a handgun...

never.

My wife claims its just too much refined sugar in the diet.....
 
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