Protect life: Get a gun, be taught to use it properly, carry, help make society safer

We hear that people who are all about stopping gun violence care about protecting life.
There is an easy answer for that, be a part of the solution.

Go to a few gun ranges, they have many rentals. Sit down with the pro's there and try out a few handguns. Find the one that "fits" you. Maybe it's a little 9mm Browning, perhaps a .40 Glock is your new friend. Are you more about the old school revolvers, go find out.

Purchase the gun that meets your needs, and you feel good shooting.

Take the classes on Conceal Carry.

Practice one a month

Carry wherever you can

The hope is you never have to pull your weapon, but that one time you do, you'll be able to save lives.

Be, a part of the solution to gun crime, to stopping tragic "mass shootings", protect yourself and your family.

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Renae said:

We hear that people who are all about stopping gun violence care about protecting life.
There is an easy answer for that, be a part of the solution.

Go to a few gun ranges, they have many rentals. Sit down with the pro's there and try out a few handguns. Find the one that "fits" you. Maybe it's a little 9mm Browning, perhaps a .40 Glock is your new friend. Are you more about the old school revolvers, go find out.

Purchase the gun that meets your needs, and you feel good shooting.

Take the classes on Conceal Carry.

Practice one a month

Carry wherever you can

The hope is you never have to pull your weapon, but that one time you do, you'll be able to save lives.

Be, a part of the solution to gun crime, to stopping tragic "mass shootings", protect yourself and your family.

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I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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rocket88 said:

I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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I've never needed an abortion. I guess those are never necessary.

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Rucker61 said:

I've never needed an abortion. I guess those are never necessary.

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Then don't get an abortion.

How many lives have you saved with your gun?

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Renae said:

We hear that people who are all about stopping gun violence care about protecting life.
There is an easy answer for that, be a part of the solution.

Go to a few gun ranges, they have many rentals. Sit down with the pro's there and try out a few handguns. Find the one that "fits" you. Maybe it's a little 9mm Browning, perhaps a .40 Glock is your new friend. Are you more about the old school revolvers, go find out.

Purchase the gun that meets your needs, and you feel good shooting.

Take the classes on Conceal Carry.

Practice one a month

Carry wherever you can

The hope is you never have to pull your weapon, but that one time you do, you'll be able to save lives.

Be, a part of the solution to gun crime, to stopping tragic "mass shootings", protect yourself and your family.

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That's all well and good. Excellent advice on the surface.

But no one should get a gun thinking they're going to stop a mass shooting. The odds are astronomical that "a particular person" will ever find him/herself in that position. More likely to be struck by lightening, I'd bet.

Neither should one get a gun thinking they're going to save some innocent. Odds are someone who only shoots a hundred rounds once a month (if that, actually, because shooting all those rounds at an indoor gun range at least is, frankly boring as hell) is going to freeze, going to miss, or analyze the situation wrong and shoot an innocent.

You see the way George Zimmerman's life was ruined? And that was in a stand-your-ground state, most states are not. Orrrr, like Illinois, they wishy-wash with the language so damned much that you can almost bet you will be arrested if you shoot someone with your legal gun unless your story is bulletproof. Pun intended. And civilly? It can ruin your life.

Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility. Actually pulling it out to shoot someone isn't anything at all like the movies. Your adrenaline is pumping.... your fine motor skills are shot (pun again intended), youre scared ****less, your hand is shaking, you're probably gasping for air... and while you are saying, "Stop, or I'll shoot?" The other guy has shot you in the head.

Carrying a gun is not for amateurs. I know. I am one. I have a CC and choose not to carry. Took all the classes, practiced once a month, bought the $400 liability policy, and then? Realized I would be much better off waiting for lightening to strike than ever have to make a decision to pull the trigger on another human being.

It's not for everyone...

I have a gun in my home. That's enough for me.

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rocket88 said:

Then don't get an abortion.

How many lives have you saved with your gun?

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In order to save a life with a gun, I have to be in possession of said gun. If no one is allowed to carry a gun until they've save a life, then no one will ever have a gun. Except the criminals who will ignore such restrictions.

That's some catch, that Catch-22.

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Rucker61 said:

In order to save a life with a gun, I have to be in possession of said gun. If no one is allowed to carry a gun until they've save a life, then no one will ever have a gun. Except the criminals who will ignore such restrictions.

That's some catch, that Catch-22.

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I never said no one should have a gun. I just said it's never once been necessary in my life.

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rocket88 said:

I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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Lots of people feel that way. Including myself. However, just in case my non fears become fears I carry.

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Rucker61 said:

I've never needed an abortion. I guess those are never necessary.

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Never felt a need to marry a dude either or have sex with one, guess we can get rid of gay marriage and allow states to ban homosexual activity too?

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jimbo said:

Lots of people feel that way. Including myself. However, just in case my non fears become fears I carry.

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My late "Aunt' (actually my mother's first cousin) and her husband taught at Yale Med. they knew well a doctor who lived in an upscale area near New Haven. He didn't think he needed a gun either. He was severely beaten, his wife and daughters raped and then burned to death by two thugs that forced the mother to go to a bank withdraw mother, then raped her and murdered her and her children. The first time you feel you really need a gun and don't have one might well be your last

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rocket88 said:

I never said no one should have a gun. I just said it's never once been necessary in my life.

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Okay.

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MaggieD said:

That's all well and good. Excellent advice on the surface.

But no one should get a gun thinking they're going to stop a mass shooting. The odds are astronomical that "a particular person" will ever find him/herself in that position. More likely to be struck by lightening, I'd bet.

Neither should one get a gun thinking they're going to save some innocent. Odds are someone who only shoots a hundred rounds once a month (if that, actually, because shooting all those rounds at an indoor gun range at least is, frankly boring as hell) is going to freeze, going to miss, or analyze the situation wrong and shoot an innocent.

You see the way George Zimmerman's life was ruined? And that was in a stand-your-ground state, most states are not. Orrrr, like Illinois, they wishy-wash with the language so damned much that you can almost bet you will be arrested if you shoot someone with your legal gun unless your story is bulletproof. Pun intended. And civilly? It can ruin your life.

Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility. Actually pulling it out to shoot someone isn't anything at all like the movies. Your adrenaline is pumping.... your fine motor skills are shot (pun again intended), youre scared ****less, your hand is shaking, you're probably gasping for air... and while you are saying, "Stop, or I'll shoot?" The other guy has shot you in the head.

Carrying a gun is not for amateurs. I know. I am one. I have a CC and choose not to carry. Took all the classes, practiced once a month, bought the $400 liability policy, and then? Realized I would be much better off waiting for lightening to strike than ever have to make a decision to pull the trigger on another human being.

It's not for everyone...

I have a gun in my home. That's enough for me.

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No, it's not. This is aimed at those that want to save lives. You may go your whole life and never need it.
Or you might be having dinner at a Luby's...

Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen in 1991 when a mass shooting took place. The gunman, George Hennard, shot 44 people in all, killing 24 of them, including himself. The fatally wounded included both of Hupp's parents. Hupp later expressed regret about deciding to remove her gun from her purse and lock it in her car, lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state's concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was "a hundred feet [30 m] away in my car."[6] Her father, Al Gratia, feeling he "needed to do something", tried to rush the gunman and was fatally shot in the chest instead. Hupp, eventually seeing an escape through a broken window (broken by the shoulder of another fleeing victim), grabbed her mother by the shirt telling her "Come on, we have to go now!" As Hupp moved toward the only escape, she believed her mother to be following her, only to find out later that Ursula had also been killed.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzanna_Hupp

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rocket88 said:

I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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Who says that carrying a firearm equals being afraid? Many police officers carry while off duty. Are they afraid?

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rocket88 said:

I never said no one should have a gun. I just said it's never once been necessary in my life.

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I've never been in a serious car accident, I still buckle up.

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rocket88 said:

I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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I do not go out carrying from a place of fear, but of prudence.

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rocket88 said:

I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.

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Why do you think fear is necessary to carry?

Or more importantly, why do you feel it necessary to characterize those who are prepared as afraid?

Is it possible, in your mind, for fear to have nothing to do with it? Does my ownership of a personal fire extinguisher suggest a fear to you as well?

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Spartacus FPV said:

Why do you think fear is necessary to carry?

Or more importantly, why do you feel it necessary to characterize those who are prepared as afraid?

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It's a way of belittling people for gun carry or ownership. Trying to assert only ignorantly fearful people carry or own weapons.

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Spartacus FPV said:

Why do you think fear is necessary to carry?

Or more importantly, why do you feel it necessary to characterize those who are prepared as afraid?

Is it possible, in your mind, for fear to have nothing to do with it? Does my ownership of a personal fire extinguisher suggest a fear to you as well?

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Do you carry your fire extinguisher everywhere you go?

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Renae said:

It's a way of belittling people for gun carry or ownership. Trying to assert only ignorantly fearful people carry or own weapons.

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No, I'm saying I've never felt the need to carry or own a gun. Why do you need to carry a gun everywhere? You just like it?

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rocket88 said:

Do you carry your fire extinguisher everywhere you go?

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Actually I kinda do, but its for Lipo fires from my Drone batteries. Why? I assume you expected that I didn't. But the fact that I do, does that imply any fear?

What would that have to do with the point of preparedness is not scarredness?

rocket88 said:

No, I'm saying I've never felt the need to carry or own a gun. Why do you need to carry a gun everywhere? You just like it?

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If they just liked it, it wouldn't be a need. In fact, if it were a need it wouldn't be merely carried in a holster it would be in their hand.

Stop with the need and fear mischaracterizations. In a free country, must a person need a thing in order to have it? Do you NEED the **** you have?

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Spartacus FPV said:

Actually I kinda do, but its for Lipo fires from my Drone batteries. Why? I assume you expected that I didn't. But the fact that I do, does that imply any fear?

What would that have to do with the point of preparedness is not scarredness?



If they just liked it, it wouldn't be a need. In fact, if it were a need it wouldn't be merely carried in a holster it would be in their hand.

Stop with the need and fear mischaracterizations. In a free country, must a person need a thing in order to have it? Do you NEED the **** you have?

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I do need most of what I have.

This isn't about owning a gun, it's about carrying it with you everywhere. Why?

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rocket88 said:

I do need most of what I have.

This isn't about owning a gun, it's about carrying it with you everywhere. Why?

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Because bad guys don't publish their schedule of attacks.

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Rucker61 said:

Because bad guys don't publish their schedule of attacks.

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one of the most moronic arguments we see is claims that cops need better weapons than the civilians because they encounter criminals. This ignores an obvious fact, most private citizens don't ever get to choose or prepare for a criminal attack. cops do

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TurtleDude said:

one of the most moronic arguments we see is claims that cops need better weapons than the civilians because they encounter criminals. This ignores an obvious fact, most private citizens don't ever get to choose or prepare for a criminal attack. cops do

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We do? Police are public servants, and being a servant of the public I have always held the opinion that we should not have anything better than what civilians have. If the state passes laws restricting access to certain kind of firearms, or magazines capacity, then that restriction should include police as well as the security detail for the lawmaker who voted for that restriction.

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JLee1977 said:

We do? Police are public servants, and being a servant of the public I have always held the opinion that we should not have anything better than what civilians have. If the state passes laws restricting access to certain kind of firearms, or magazines capacity, then that restriction should include police as well as the security detail for the lawmaker who voted for that restriction.

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I think a simple way to end all the idiocy that both involves anti gun scum bags trying to disarm private citizens and on the other hand those worried about alleged excessive militarization of the civilian police is an easy solution

any firearm that cops have for use in our urban areas, other civilians ought to be able to easily buy and possess. Now there are a few cases where i make exceptions and it does not involve FIREARMS. I understand the wisdom of letting the secret service have surface to air missiles guarding the white house etc makes sense. I don't see a valid reason for a private citizen to have a surface to air missile