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Protect life: Get a gun, be taught to use it properly, carry, help make society safer

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Rucker61 said:
Because bad guys don't publish their schedule of attacks.
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See, it is about fear.
 
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rocket88 said:
See, it is about fear.
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that is a silly retort. its about being prepared. are you in fear because you want obamacare? are you in fear because you wear a seatbelt or a condom?
 
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rocket88 said:
I'm quite simply not that afraid.
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I never understood this sort of statement. People don't carry guns because they're afraid that doesn't make sense. People carry guns in order to defend themselves should they need to.

That's like saying I've never put a burglar alarm on my house because I'm Not Afraid or I've never locked my doors because I'm not afraid you don't do that because you're afraid you do that to defend yourself

I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.
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well that's fine. I've gone out in public and have been glad i had it. Chances are you will never have a situation where you'd wish you had a gun but it's possible and guns aren't dangerous they're only as dangerous as the person handling them. And a few hours of Education will make you pretty smart about handling them. They aren't expensive.

I've never had my vehicle stolen but I still carry insurance to cover it if it was.
 
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rocket88 said:
Do you carry your fire extinguisher everywhere you go?
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No but those are everywhere. I do carry one of my car ever had a car catch on fire? And I have one in my kitchen. They're ubiquitous I don't need to carry them everyone has one
 
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rocket88 said:
No, I'm saying I've never felt the need to carry or own a gun. Why do you need to carry a gun everywhere? You just like it?
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Most people don't carry them everywhere. There are certain places I'm not allowed to and I don't carry it into those places.
 
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rocket88 said:
See, it is about fear.
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Not really. Fear is an emotion that really has to be brought on by something. If you said it was about paranoia that would make a little more sense but people get robbed every day so is it paranoid to do things to defend yourself against that?
 
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MaggieD said:
That's all well and good. Excellent advice on the surface.

But no one should get a gun thinking they're going to stop a mass shooting. The odds are astronomical that "a particular person" will ever find him/herself in that position. More likely to be struck by lightening, I'd bet.

Neither should one get a gun thinking they're going to save some innocent. Odds are someone who only shoots a hundred rounds once a month (if that, actually, because shooting all those rounds at an indoor gun range at least is, frankly boring as hell) is going to freeze, going to miss, or analyze the situation wrong and shoot an innocent.

You see the way George Zimmerman's life was ruined? And that was in a stand-your-ground state, most states are not. Orrrr, like Illinois, they wishy-wash with the language so damned much that you can almost bet you will be arrested if you shoot someone with your legal gun unless your story is bulletproof. Pun intended. And civilly? It can ruin your life.

Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility. Actually pulling it out to shoot someone isn't anything at all like the movies. Your adrenaline is pumping.... your fine motor skills are shot (pun again intended), youre scared ****less, your hand is shaking, you're probably gasping for air... and while you are saying, "Stop, or I'll shoot?" The other guy has shot you in the head.

Carrying a gun is not for amateurs. I know. I am one. I have a CC and choose not to carry. Took all the classes, practiced once a month, bought the $400 liability policy, and then? Realized I would be much better off waiting for lightening to strike than ever have to make a decision to pull the trigger on another human being.

It's not for everyone...

I have a gun in my home. That's enough for me.
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THAT, right there is an exceptional bit of wisdom....knowing your limitations. :applaud
 
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rocket88 said:
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How many lives have you saved with your gun?
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Probably several. I can think of four without trying hard, and only one of those was when I was a cop.
 
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rocket88 said:
Do you carry your fire extinguisher everywhere you go?
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I stopped carrying it in the shower.....seemed a bit redundant.
 
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Goshin said:
Probably several. I can think of four without trying hard, and only one of those was when I was a cop.
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I never took my gun out of its holster when I was a reserve deputy.
 
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rocket88 said:
See, it is about fear.
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One mistakes prudence with fear.

Is it fear that makes you wear a seatbelt?
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I never took my gun out of its holster when I was a reserve deputy.
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I'm counting times when me being armed stopped someone homicidally inclined, without necessarily having to shoot them.
 
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Goshin said:
I'm counting times when me being armed stopped someone homicidally inclined, without necessarily having to shoot them.
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Silly, those don't count. Self defense is a bloodsport, donchaknow?
 
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Rucker61 said:
Silly, those don't count. Self defense is a bloodsport, donchaknow?
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Yup. Lotta anti's want to only count DEAD criminals as DGUs. In fact, studies indicate over 99% of incidents end when the criminal sees the citizen is armed, without anyone shot and often without a shot fired. Most such incidents are never reported.
 
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Goshin said:
I'm counting times when me being armed stopped someone homicidally inclined, without necessarily having to shoot them.
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I've never shot anybody but I have saved three lives with a gun. So that's all I'm counting
 
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CLAX1911 said:
No but those are everywhere. I do carry one of my car ever had a car catch on fire? And I have one in my kitchen. They're ubiquitous I don't need to carry them everyone has one
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Plus they're big and bulky. Even if I wanted to, I'd doubt I can do it comfortably.
 
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rocket88 said:
I'm quite simply not that afraid. I go out in public every single day and I have never once wished I had a gun.
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We teach our kids fire drills and 'stranger danger.' Are those things unnecessary? (For many, they end up being so, thankfully)
 
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Rucker61 said:
In order to save a life with a gun, I have to be in possession of said gun. If no one is allowed to carry a gun until they've save a life, then no one will ever have a gun. Except the criminals who will ignore such restrictions.

That's some catch, that Catch-22.
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I'm not a cop. It's not my job or my intent to save someone else. I carry to protect myself and my family. If someone wants that protection, they can get a firearm and learn to use it properly...or call the cops.
 
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TurtleDude said:
The first time you feel you really need a gun and don't have one might well be your last
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This.
 
Renae said:
We hear that people who are all about stopping gun violence care about protecting life.
There is an easy answer for that, be a part of the solution.
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So your solution to gun violence is more gun violence? That's just what we need, everyone carrying guns so that any bad situation can turn immediately deadly. Congratulations, this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life. You are the poster child for all gun nuts.
 
eselement said:
So your solution to gun violence is more gun violence? That's just what we need, everyone carrying guns so that any bad situation can turn immediately deadly. Congratulations, this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in my life. You are the poster child for all gun nuts.
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When you're done hyperventilating with outlandish admonishments perhaps you should re-read the OP?
It wasn't a call for "everyone" to be just armed willy nilly. It was for those who want to be an active solution to the problem. Armed, TRAINED Law abiding citizens are a great solution to gun violence.
 
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