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Oh the horror! Teachers actually taking it upon themselves to defend the very pupils they're assigned you educate and nurture? It's an outrage. Teachers should cower behind a desk and hope the bad guy will listen to their pleas!
 
It sounds like it could be a good program. The argument to arm teachers always sounded to me like people wanted to make it mandatory, but if it is voluntary and they have good training good for them.
 
MrPeanut said:
It sounds like it could be a good program. The argument to arm teachers always sounded to me like people wanted to make it mandatory, but if it is voluntary and they have good training good for them.
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I am as hard core a proponent there is supporting lawful citizens carrying firearms if they want but I don't believe it should be mandatory. some people aren't cut out to accept the risk and responsibility of being armed. and there are lots of good teachers who fit that bill. However, if I was a hiring officer for a school and there are two candidates with equal academic credentials and one is certified to carry and the other is not, I think its legitimate to hire the person with the extra skill set. I don't believe teachers should lose their jobs if they don't want to pack
 
MrPeanut said:
It sounds like it could be a good program. The argument to arm teachers always sounded to me like people wanted to make it mandatory, but if it is voluntary and they have good training good for them.
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Yeah protect kids on the cheap....when you could just have school police do it
 
Are there any teachers here that would be willing to be armed in their classrooms? I'd be interested in their opinions.
 
vegas giants said:
Yeah protect kids on the cheap....when you could just have school police do it
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what a stupid comment. 5-10 armed teachers in a school vs one police officer that a killer is going to target first. good thinking there. and some schools are in areas where cops are few and far between and a scarce resource.

smart people realize its usually this choice

armed teachers vs NO armed adults to deal with an active shooter
 
TurtleDude said:
I am as hard core a proponent there is supporting lawful citizens carrying firearms if they want but I don't believe it should be mandatory. some people aren't cut out to accept the risk and responsibility of being armed. and there are lots of good teachers who fit that bill. However, if I was a hiring officer for a school and there are two candidates with equal academic credentials and one is certified to carry and the other is not, I think its legitimate to hire the person with the extra skill set. I don't believe teachers should lose their jobs if they don't want to pack
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If the certification to carry was out of the equation the decision would be made based on other considerations, wouldn't it. And when the quality of education drops another notch because that extra skill set has become a consideration, well, there's always the old standby boogeyman to point the finger at.
 
Parrish said:
Are there any teachers here that would be willing to be armed in their classrooms? I'd be interested in their opinions.
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well we know given how many have attended this free training at TDI that there have been hundreds. But it would be interesting to see how any who are teachers would answer. I am not a licensed teacher but I am a full time coach now and I do guest teaching appearances at the local high school on topics such as law and government. The teacher who is the one who invites me asked me about some firearms training in case our school district allows firearms (the AG and the state law support it but its still the school district's call). I once taught as a graduate student and later did some teaching at seminars and workshops in legal matters (often involving gun ownership and the second amendment).
 
Grand Mal said:
If the certification to carry was out of the equation the decision would be made based on other considerations, wouldn't it. And when the quality of education drops another notch because that extra skill set has become a consideration, well, there's always the old standby boogeyman to point the finger at.
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I don't think that is really the issue here. the issue is armed teachers who pass rigorous training requirements. I think its a good idea. and right now its only for teachers already teaching-in districts that allow it
 
TurtleDude said:
what a stupid comment. 5-10 armed teachers in a school vs one police officer that a killer is going to target first. good thinking there. and some schools are in areas where cops are few and far between and a scarce resource.

smart people realize its usually this choice

armed teachers vs NO armed adults to deal with an active shooter
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5 -10 idiots who were not smart enough to get a better job than teacher
 
vegas giants said:
5 -10 idiots who were not smart enough to get a better job than teacher
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If you can stand it, I don't know of too many better jobs than teacher. Fighter pilot, rock star, maybe.
 
Lutherf said:
For the record, my post above cites CBS. The video I had in mind was an ABC production.

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Yeah, you can see at 2:27 the "armed gunman" immediately targets Joey after downing the instructor. In a real scenario an armed gunman is going to shoot his target and then whoever is closest to them.

EDIT: OH YEAH, 4:57. BRIAN FREEZES AT HIS DESK!!!. NO he's not.
 
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vegas giants said:
Yeah protect kids on the cheap....when you could just have school police do it
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Armed teachers can be support for police. The police can't be everywhere, even if he's assigned to the school.
 
Parrish said:
Are there any teachers here that would be willing to be armed in their classrooms? I'd be interested in their opinions.
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My wife is a middle school counselor, and she's decided that if allowed and training provided she'd carry.
 
TurtleDude said:
I don't think that is really the issue here. the issue is armed teachers who pass rigorous training requirements. I think its a good idea. and right now its only for teachers already teaching-in districts that allow it
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Yeah, well, I agree with what you're saying here but you contradicted yourself with that 'extra skill set' post.
Here's my last word on the subject. Teachers who can qualify should be allowed to be armed in American schools, but the question of qualification should never come up in the recruitment process. If facility with weapons becomes a plus when teachers are being recruited you've made yourselves into something you shouldn't want to be.
 
Grand Mal said:
Yeah, well, I agree with what you're saying here but you contradicted yourself with that 'extra skill set' post.
Here's my last word on the subject. Teachers who can qualify should be allowed to be armed in American schools, but the question of qualification should never come up in the recruitment process. If facility with weapons becomes a plus when teachers are being recruited you've made yourselves into something you shouldn't want to be.
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I really don't think we have an argument. If the two teachers are equal vs hiring one who has a gun but is not as good a teacher
 
Maccabee said:
Armed teachers can be support for police. The police can't be everywhere, even if he's assigned to the school.
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Armed teachers can shoot ten kids too because they are not professionals
 
vegas giants said:
Armed teachers can shoot ten kids too because they are not professionals
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another lie if they are trained to protect their children as part of their job, they are professionals,
 
vegas giants said:
Yeah protect kids on the cheap....when you could just have school police do it
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The teachers are the ones going through the training. If they are being trained properly I don't see a problem with it. Not every school can hire a bunch of security.
 
vegas giants said:
This is a dumb idea
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well lets see

we have you and your dishonest claims that are evidence and truth free on one side, and we have the Attorney General of the State, the leading expert on active shooters in the USA and a bunch of school districts that feel otherwise

gee who should i believe.??
 
MrPeanut said:
The teachers are the ones going through the training. If they are being trained properly I don't see a problem with it. Not every school can hire a bunch of security.
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Yeah do it on the cheap.....they are just kids
 
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