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Making it easier to buy silencers[W:290]

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best silencer scene in a movie?

Clear and Present Danger where a special forces sniper shoots through the window in South America and takes out a narconista about to waste Harrison Ford

Richard Burton wasting a double crossing English Lord who set him and his mercenaries up at the end of THE WILD GEESE

I'm fond of Clint Eastwood's suppressed Luger in "Where Eagles Dare", in that it actually cycled to fire a second shot.
 
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I'm fond of Clint Eastwood's suppressed Luger in "Where Eagles Dare", in that it actually cycled to fire a second shot.

one of the great underrated WWII movies-also featuring Richard Burton. The scene where Burton and Eastwood are playing high stakes poker with the German generals over who is a spy is way up there in best scenes ever. I put it in the same league as Daniel Day Lewis in Last of the Mohicans trying to save his friends in front of the Huron Chief
 
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best silencer scene in a movie?

Clear and Present Danger where a special forces sniper shoots through the window in South America and takes out a narconista about to waste Harrison Ford

Richard Burton wasting a double crossing English Lord who set him and his mercenaries up at the end of THE WILD GEESE

I prefer my movie guns unrealistic and with unlimited ammunition:
 
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I prefer my movie guns unrealistic and with unlimited ammunition:


You mean like those westerns Parodied in Mad Magazine. Two cowboys with six shooters taking cover behind dead horses cutting down dozens of charging braves. One cowboy looked at the other and said-Damn I missed!!
 
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If this bill increases the chances of a mass shooting, even by 0.01 percent, it shouldn't see the night or day.

Arguing that someone needs a handgun is one thing. The argument that one needs a silencer is ridiculous.

That won't ever happen. Because terrorists are not going to walk into a place start shooting and people start dropping like flies wondering why they are bleeding for no reason. Silencers don't work the way you think they do.
 
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I don't really care about the silencer thing, but Cheney's reasoning was pretty dumb.
 
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best silencer scene in a movie?

Clear and Present Danger where a special forces sniper shoots through the window in South America and takes out a narconista about to waste Harrison Ford

Richard Burton wasting a double crossing English Lord who set him and his mercenaries up at the end of THE WILD GEESE

I despise Ben Affleck's anti gun view despite his continued use of them in his movies. The character he plays in The Accountant portrayed suppressor more accurately than any other movie I have seen.

 
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A "silencer" does not silence anything.....and seeing them used on TV and Hollywood land hardly counts.

Having used suppressed firearms, I can tell you that your assertion is misguided, or more seriously, you may need your hearing checked.


Saying a silencer suppresses the sound quite a bit is not misguided but a fact. I never said a silencer completely silences the sound. Now, that is a flat-out lie.
 
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Saying a silencer suppresses the sound quite a bit is not misguided but a fact. I never said a silencer completely silences the sound. Now, that is a flat-out lie.

"Quite a bit" is misleading when the reduced sound is still as loud as a jet on takeoff or a chainsaw.
 
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Saying a silencer suppresses the sound quite a bit is not misguided but a fact. I never said a silencer completely silences the sound. Now, that is a flat-out lie.

have you actually come up with a valid reason why a flash suppressor or a pistol grip makes a firearm so dangerous that honest citizens shouldn't be able to own it? Until then, its hard for anyone to accept any of your opinions on firearms issues
 
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Lawmakers spar over gun silencer bill | TheHill

Nobody cares about the damn hearing of sportsmen. This cuckoo bill wants its easier for civilians to gain access to freakin silencers.

Talk about an insane, dangerous and childish bill. Why on earth should it be easier for civilians to get siliencers?

Why shouldn't it be?
 
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Why shouldn't it be?

Bucky's posts demonstrate he operates from the position that nothing should be allowed unless citizens can convince HIM that they have a clear and pressing NEED to do something.
 
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Calling a suppressor a "silencer" displays ones ignorance on the topic, it serves the same purpose as an auto muffler.
 
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Notice who the sponsor of the bill is:

Liz Cheney, the daughter of a scumbag that shot his friend on a hunting trip.

I knew it wouldn't take you very long to revert to the strawman. You were over your head before you clicked "post"
 
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have you actually come up with a valid reason why a flash suppressor or a pistol grip makes a firearm so dangerous that honest citizens shouldn't be able to own it? Until then, its hard for anyone to accept any of your opinions on firearms issues

Have you come up with a need for a reason a citizens does need one?
 
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Have you come up with a need for a reason a citizens does need one?


Don't have to. "Needs" have nothing to do with it. Does anyone have a need for a car that goes 100 MPH?
 
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Have you come up with a need for a reason a citizens does need one?

What I put on my form 4 when I purchased mine was "All Lawful Purposes". If that is good enough of a reason for the federal government, then who cares what "reason" I need to satisfy your misguided fear of owning a silencer.
 
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What I put on my form 4 when I purchased mine was "All Lawful Purposes". If that is good enough of a reason for the federal government, then who cares what "reason" I need to satisfy your misguided fear of owning a silencer.

So according to Rucker, it would not deter him to sell a gun to someone that said yes on a form that he would use a gun to shoot innocent civilians. Are you in the same camp?
 
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Lawmakers spar over gun silencer bill | TheHill

Nobody cares about the damn hearing of sportsmen. This cuckoo bill wants its easier for civilians to gain access to freakin silencers.

Talk about an insane, dangerous and childish bill. Why on earth should it be easier for civilians to get siliencers?
Relax dood. If you think its just about 'silencers'...



Cue the jingle...

NAPA know how...NAPA know how...
 
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Bucky's posts demonstrate he operates from the position that nothing should be allowed unless citizens can convince HIM that they have a clear and pressing NEED to do something.

I don't believe people should use guns to kill and murder people. Do you?
 
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I don't believe people should use guns to kill and murder people. Do you?
Do you think a killer would be restricted by lack of a 2-300$ suppressor when he can build one for 7 bucks, some PVC, and some shredded rubber?
 
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So according to Rucker, it would not deter him to sell a gun to someone that said yes on a form that he would use a gun to shoot innocent civilians. Are you in the same camp?

Telling porky pies, are you? Where, other than your fourth point of contact, did this come from?
 
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I don't believe people should use guns to kill and murder people. Do you?

I feel the same way. We should make a law making that illegal. I also feel they shouldn't use knives, clubs, fists or feet, either, all of which kill orders of magnitude more people each year than suppressed firearms.
 
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Have you come up with a need for a reason a citizens does need one?
It basically eliminates the need for ear protection at the range or say, hunting.
Also reduces recoil.

For home defense, depending on the gun they may intend to use, the home defense weapon can be used without fear of ear damage for them and anyone nearby. Indoors the damage is likely to be worse from what I understand, being an enclosed area. This has to be very rare though.

From what I recall they take a long time to get (like 6 months?) cost a lot of money due to license, and it's fairly intensive in what they do.
Making that a little easier IMO may be fine, but I'd still want everyone to feel as though they registered and are under scrutiny, if they decide to own them.

I've got a friend with an integrated suppressed 22 and a pistol with a can on it, and it's pretty fun to shoot. Especially the 22. All you hear is a click basically.
You can mail order this I think, straight to your front door, no background check or anything. Makes basically no sound, is also subsonic.
(you can't reload in the field easy, and it has to be cocked, but it's pretty cool nonetheless.)
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Bulldog_357_Bullpup_Shrouded/3592
 
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It basically eliminates the need for ear protection at the range or say, hunting.
Also reduces recoil.

For home defense, depending on the gun they may intend to use, the home defense weapon can be used without fear of ear damage for them and anyone nearby. Indoors the damage is likely to be worse from what I understand, being an enclosed area. This has to be very rare though.

From what I recall they take a long time to get (like 6 months?) cost a lot of money due to license, and it's fairly intensive in what they do.
Making that a little easier IMO may be fine, but I'd still want everyone to feel as though they registered and are under scrutiny, if they decide to own them.

I've got a friend with an integrated suppressed 22 and a pistol with a can on it, and it's pretty fun to shoot. Especially the 22. All you hear is a click basically.
You can mail order this I think, straight to your front door, no background check or anything. Makes basically no sound, is also subsonic.
(you can't reload in the field easy, and it has to be cocked, but it's pretty cool nonetheless.)
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Bulldog_357_Bullpup_Shrouded/3592

It's not that the silencer takes a long time to get. It's that the Form 4 can take a while for the ATF to process.
 
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