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The new Charade: ITS GUN SAFETY not GUN BANS[W:22:654]***

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Maccabee said:
But I thought registration works.
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it works exactly as people like vegas intend it to work. To harass and impose stupid costs on honest gun owners. that is why so many gun banners support registration. As a crime control tool-what sort of person pretends a law that cannot even be used to punish criminals should be applied to honest citizens?
 
YorkshirePete said:
What happened to Obamas taking our guns?
There's more than ever for our paranoid pantywaists
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I guess you missed the election 10 months ago-Obama is no longer the president. Try to pay attention to current events so your posts won't look so out of date by missing a major change in US government.
 
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TurtleDude said:
it works exactly as people like vegas intend it to work. To harass and impose stupid costs on honest gun owners. that is why so many gun banners support registration. As a crime control tool-what sort of person pretends a law that cannot even be used to punish criminals should be applied to honest citizens?
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It reduces gun violence. It works great
 
vegas giants said:
Hard to pull that out exactly but it likely is a factor
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Please explain how its likely when it hasn;t even stopped criminals from using handguns as the preferred weapon to commit crime?
 
jaeger19 said:
Please explain how its likely when it hasn;t even stopped criminals from using handguns as the preferred weapon to commit crime?
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or why Hawaii has not been able to find one crime solved by Registration. Or why canada scrapped registration for longguns which are used in far less crime than Handguns which are still registered
 
vegas giants said:
Hard to pull that out exactly but it likely is a factor
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One way to prove at least correlation is to show the gun death rates before and after the registry. But even so, why make it harder for law abiding citizens to own firearms based upon flimsy evidence that said law would work?
 
Maccabee said:
One way to prove at least correlation is to show the gun death rates before and after the registry. But even so, why make it harder for law abiding citizens to own firearms based upon flimsy evidence that said law would work?
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There are many many many other factors involved as well
 
Maccabee said:
Can you at least give evidence to what I asked, or are you going to continue to dodge and deflect?
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The evidence you ask for will not show a complete picture and could be misleading
 
vegas giants said:
A misleading step. But there are studies on registration
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yes there are, registration is a failure in Hawaii, a failure in Maryland, and a waste of money in Canada. its proven useless in California as well
 
TurtleDude said:
yes there are, registration is a failure in Hawaii, a failure in Maryland, and a waste of money in Canada. its proven useless in California as well
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It works great in Canada for handguns!
 
vegas giants said:
It works great in Canada for handguns!
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well if that was TRUE, handguns would not be the weapon of choice for criminals in Canada-it would be long guns that aren't registered. But that is not the case. Handguns are the weapon of choice in Canada proving that it doesn't WORK GREAT. in fact the actual evidence suggests the exact opposite. But its funny how you have to cite canada because registration has been an even BIGGER failure in the US of A
 
TurtleDude said:
well if that was TRUE, handguns would not be the weapon of choice for criminals in Canada-it would be long guns that aren't registered. But that is not the case. Handguns are the weapon of choice in Canada proving that it doesn't WORK GREAT. in fact the actual evidence suggests the exact opposite. But its funny how you have to cite canada because registration has been an even BIGGER failure in the US of A
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It works great in Canada! They are keeping that program because it works
 
vegas giants said:
It works great in Canada! They are keeping that program because it works
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it works exactly as they want it to. the canadian government is much like Britain's. they don't like the subjects having handguns, SO they pass silly laws harassing handgun owners. They couldn't keep up the charade against long guns But its a failure
 
TurtleDude said:
it works exactly as they want it to. the canadian government is much like Britain's. they don't like the subjects having handguns, SO they pass silly laws harassing handgun owners. They couldn't keep up the charade against long guns But its a failure
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Wrong. Lots of people have guns in Canada. You are just wrong again
 
vegas giants said:
Wrong. Lots of people have guns in Canada. You are just wrong again
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non responsive-the gun registration system in canada is a proven failure.
 
TurtleDude said:
non responsive-the gun registration system in canada is a proven failure.
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Failure is seen in states like Alaska. The model for people like TurtleDude. Suicide, gun violence, and death.
 
Bucky said:
Failure is seen in states like Alaska. The model for people like TurtleDude. Suicide, gun violence, and death.
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So then Japan and South Korea also have that failure? Their intentional death rate significantly exceeds that of the US.
 
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