NRA needs more fear, anger and hatred. People are relaxing just a little bit.

"The left’s message is absolutely clear. They want revenge; you’ve got to be punished. They say you are what is wrong with America, and now you’ve got to be purged.

...Folks, our long nightmare, it may not be over. The fact is, it may be just beginning. Right now, we face a gathering of forces that are willing to use violence against us.

Think about it. The leftist movement in this country right now is enraged. Among them and behind them are some of the most radical political elements there are. Anarchists, Marxists, fascists, communists and the whole rest of the left-wing Socialist brigade...

Many of these people literally hate everything America stands for. Democracy. Free-market capitalism. Representative government. Our Constitution. Our founding fathers. Individual freedom. They want to tear down our system and replace it with their collectivist, top-down, global government-knows-best utopia...

Here’s what is different from the leftist violence we’ve seen in the past. For the first time, we also face an enemy utterly dedicated to destroy not just our country, but also all Western civilization...

Meanwhile, crime is rising again in many U.S. cities. According to the FBI, drug gangs are expanding their networks all across the country. The FBI also says gang members are infiltrating law enforcement and even the military. In jails, they are working with extremist groups that go all the way from white supremacists to black separatists to Muslim prison gangs...

The president handles the foreign affairs of the country. It is an executive function. And the U.S. laws on the issue, they absolutely couldn’t be clearer. The president has absolute authority to suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens that he may deem to be appropriate to protect the interests of the United States of America....

Folks, when unelected, unaccountable judges can take that clear, unambiguous language and then twist it and pervert it to make it mean whatever they want, they might as well throw a molotov cocktail at the U.S. Constitution.

Ladies and gentlemen, the leftist media is responsible for blowing the winds of violence as well. Think about it....Folks, our country is under siege from a media carpet-bombing campaign. And America knows it... "
_Wayne LaPierre, NRA

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The NRA had rarely ever done better in terms of sales of firearms than under the Obama administration. Oh, those glory days! With the slogan of "Obama's coming to pry your guns from your cold, dead hands", they scared and angered the gun owners into buying more and more weapons, despite the fact that we have more guns than people in this country already. There was never any real risk to the country’s firearms, of course: Obama’s executive actions were tepid and legislative responses to mass shootings were non-starters on Capitol Hill — despite being fairly weak themselves. But regardless, we are the most armed nation on the planet now. And with the election of Donald Trump, there is no threat to every crazy schizophrenic and convicted felon owning as many military style assault weapons as they please. Time to finally relax just a little, right?

Nope. Can't have that. There's a problem with that: as these poor gun owners are trying to take a sigh of relief and finally relax that death grip on their grenade launching assault weapons just a little, gun sales are slipping.

Horrors! We can't have that! So the NRA has to whip these poor beasts again to get them spooked to stampede and buy even more weapons. So they are desperately trying to find some kind of scary thing they can use to push up those sales again. What can it be? Who....? Oh yeah! The "liberal elites", whoever they may be- that's who!...working in partnership of course with the dreaded and hated “left-wing media” and a judiciary that does “violence to the Constitution’s separation of powers” by opposing President Trump’s noble and freedom-inspiring executive orders.



Wow! Yes! Yes! You hear that? Hate! Hate! Fear! Fear! Don't stop! Keep buying those guns! You are all that's left to protect all "western civilization"! And they are coming for your women! :lamo

I wonder how much longer they can keep beating these poor beasts to sustain this chronic state of fear, phobia, anger, hatred, and anxiety. Even a rodeo bull must get tired of the bullsh-- and entertaining its owners after a while.

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ataraxia said:

...And with the election of Donald Trump, there is no threat to every crazy schizophrenic and convicted felon owning as many military style assault weapons as they please. Time to finally relax just a little, right?

Nope. Can't have that. There's a problem with that: as these poor gun owners are trying to take a sigh of relief and finally relax that death grip on their grenade launching assault weapons just a little, gun sales are slipping.

I wonder how much longer they can keep beating these poor beasts to sustain this chronic state of fear, phobia, anger, hatred, and anxiety. Even a rodeo bull must get tired of the bullsh-- and entertaining its owners after a while.

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vegas giants said:

The gun nuts live in constant fear. And fear sells guns

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Captain Adverse said:

I'm a strong supporter of the individual right to keep and bear arms...and I don't own a single firearm. Nor do I automatically fear those who do.

People own firearms for all sorts of reason.

There are sportsmen, and by that I mean literally as in skeet shooting, target shooting, quick draw competitions, etc.

There are people who own them primarily for hunting.

There are collectors who are no different from any other type (stamps, models, etc.).

Then there are people who own them for purposes of personal safety.

(NOTE: I make no mention of those who own them for the primary purpose of committing crimes, since no gun laws will stop them from doing or attempting to do so.)

Labeling gun owners "gun nuts" and "poor (dumb) beasts" is no way to win friends and influence people. It merely shows your personal disdain for anyone who doesn't agree with your "enlightened" views on gun control.

I don't own a gun, but I support the rights of those who do because the basis is to allow free citizens to the capability oppose and if necessary overthrow their own government if necessary someday. I would want that ability if I ever felt the need.

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The post had nothing to do with people owning guns. It is about the head of the NRA trying to whip up more sales at the expense of even increasing polarization in this country.

If you are worried about labeling people who may be concerned about people open-carrying large weapons on the street of their young child's elementary school as "communists" and "Nazis", and doing so "merely shows your personal disdain for anyone who doesn't agree with your "enlightened" views", I am not sure why you are not expressing just a little more outrage at these outrageous and hateful comments of the NRA chair- to sow hatred, fear, and discord when our country can ill-support any further polarization. Where is your outrage there?

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ataraxia said:

The NRA had rarely ever done better in terms of sales of firearms than under the Obama administration. Oh, those glory days! With the slogan of "Obama's coming to pry your guns from your cold, dead hands", they scared and angered the gun owners into buying more and more weapons, despite the fact that we have more guns than people in this country already. There was never any real risk to the country’s firearms, of course: Obama’s executive actions were tepid and legislative responses to mass shootings were non-starters on Capitol Hill — despite being fairly weak themselves. But regardless, we are the most armed nation on the planet now. And with the election of Donald Trump, there is no threat to every crazy schizophrenic and convicted felon owning as many military style assault weapons as they please. Time to finally relax just a little, right?

Nope. Can't have that. There's a problem with that: as these poor gun owners are trying to take a sigh of relief and finally relax that death grip on their grenade launching assault weapons just a little, gun sales are slipping.

Horrors! We can't have that! So the NRA has to whip these poor beasts again to get them spooked to stampede and buy even more weapons. So they are desperately trying to find some kind of scary thing they can use to push up those sales again. What can it be? Who....? Oh yeah! The "liberal elites", whoever they may be- that's who!...working in partnership of course with the dreaded and hated “left-wing media” and a judiciary that does “violence to the Constitution’s separation of powers” by opposing President Trump’s noble and freedom-inspiring executive orders. Yeah, that's the ticket!



Wow! Yes! YES!!! You hear that? Hate! Hate! Fear! Fear! Don't stop! Mexicans! Muslims! Refugees! Criminals! Communists! Nazis! Maoists! Bigfoot! UFOs! They are all out to getcha! Keep buying those guns! And they are coming for your women too! You are all that's left to protect all "western civilization"! :lamo

I wonder how much longer they can keep beating these poor beasts to sustain this chronic state of fear, phobia, anger, hatred, and anxiety. Even a rodeo bull must get tired of the bullsh-- and entertaining its owners after a while.

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Captain Adverse said:

I don't get "outraged" over every opinion ever spoken. Nor do I get "outraged" simply because other's think I need to be, based on their characterizations of events.

I save my "outrage" for things I consider important instead of being "triggered" by emotional appeals. :coffeepap:

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ataraxia said:

So LaPierre's outrage is cool and completely rational. But mine is not. Got it. Thanks.

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ataraxia said:

So LaPierre's outrage is cool and completely rational. But mine is not. Got it. Thanks.

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RetiredUSN said:

Thank you for providing us all with another anti gun rant, even if it only proves you to be just another low information poster in regards to who actually buys firearms and for what reasons. In reality, there has been a trend of liberals, women, democrats, and minorities buying guns over the past 5-6 years.

Why US liberals are now buying guns too - BBC News

In 2017 women and minorities are buying guns. Here's why | Fox News

Women with guns: The next threat to the Democratic Party

Gun Club For Liberals Says More People Are Joining Post-Election : NPR

Your blatant ignorance of what is going on.

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ataraxia said:

Yes, liberals are buying lots of guns too now. Because when the rule of law and the institutions of government start to fall apart, like a corrupt convicted sheriff being pardoned by the president, the courts attacked relentlessly, and the media undermined, people have to take the law into their own hands. Countries like Somalia, some banana Republics in South America, the remote villages of Afghanistan, etc... people have have lots of guns. It's a symptom of what happens to a country whose government is breaking down and people can't rely on its institutions anymore for safety, justice, and security any more. These are not safer countries. They are among the most dangerous countries on the planet.

But hey, they have small governments and freedom to open carry whatever they like, wherever they like: NRA heaven, right? Think how great their sales would be in such a place. No wonder LaPierre keeps fanning the flames of hatred, suspicion, attacks on the courts and media, dehumanization of other groups, and fear to make sure that happens here.

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Rucker61 said:

I'm not sure I personally would listen to anything from LaPierre.

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RetiredUSN said:

Clinton pardoned terroists.

Obama pardoned career criminals.

Crickets from you.

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ataraxia said:

Yes, liberals are buying lots of guns too now. Because when the rule of law and the institutions of government start to fall apart, like a corrupt convicted criminal sheriff being pardoned by the president, the courts attacked relentlessly, and the media undermined, people have to take the law into their own hands. Countries like Somalia, some banana Republics in South America, the remote villages of Afghanistan, etc... people have have lots of guns. It's a symptom of what happens to a country whose institutions and systems of government start breaking down and people can't rely on it anymore for safety, justice, and security any more. No more "big nanny government"s in those countries. But these are not safer countries. They are among the most dangerous countries on the planet.

But hey, they have "small government" and freedom to open carry whatever they like, wherever they like: NRA heaven, right? Think how great their sales would be in such a place. No wonder LaPierre keeps fanning the flames of hatred, suspicion, division, polarization, attacks on the courts and media, dehumanization of other groups, and fear to make sure that happens here.

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ataraxia said:

The post had nothing to do with people owning guns. It is about the head of the NRA trying to whip up more sales at the expense of even increasing polarization in this country.

If you are worried about labeling people who may be concerned about people open-carrying large weapons on the street of their young child's elementary school as "communists" and "Nazis", and doing so "merely shows your personal disdain for anyone who doesn't agree with your "enlightened" views", I am not sure why you are not expressing just a little more outrage at these outrageous and hateful comments of the NRA chair- to sow hatred, fear, and discord when our country can ill-support any further polarization, at inciting hatred and violence towards the media and the country's courts and legal institutions- the only remaining safeguards against an imperial presidency. Where is your outrage there?

And if his comments are real, and you want to protect the right of citizens to overthrow their government if they want to, and outraged "communists" and "Nazis" want to overthrow the government, what's wrong with that? It should be a good thing, right? It's their constitutional right. Whoever has more guns, gets to overthrow the government if they want. Sounds like a fun game to me that you should be totally into.

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Maybe. But I don't recall huge rallies of people cheering it. And I don't remember either of them undermining and attacking both the entire judicial branch and the media as "the enemy of the people". These are existential threats to our entire system of government and its institutions at its roots.

But that is a good thing, right? You are the one who wanted "small government", right? Then you really will only have only your shotgun to protect you against everything, just like in that NRA utopia, Somalia. Even your grandmother will have to haul her AK-47 just to go to the grocery store. And Mr. LaPierre will be in heaven because he will be selling ever more weapons.

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chuckiechan said:

You don't understand the symbolism the second amendment represents. And you never will.

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RetiredUSN said:

Just look at this thread you just wrote......full of emotion and nonsense.

You make my case every time you hit the key board.

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Rucker61 said:

Remind me again how many people have been killed by open carry proponents at a protest rally?

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"The sudden appearance of about 40 armed men outside a Dallas-area restaurant this weekend was the latest confrontation between an open-carry gun-rights group and a mothers group advocating gun control measures at their children's school that was meeting inside...

One of four women who were meeting Saturday tried to file a police complaint on Monday but failed because she was told that no law had been violated, a spokeswoman for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense said Monday. Shannon Watts, founder of the national gun control organization, said the mothers were holding a private meeting — not a rally — at the restaurant...

The Open Carry Texas (OCT) contingent, which included men, women and children, were armed with about two dozen semi-automatic rifles, which are classified as long guns in Texas and can be legally carried openly.

"We were surrounded by armed men, including some openly carrying loaded semi-automatic rifles," Watts said. "Many of our moms had children with them. Unfortunately this is not a unique situation — it's happened in many states, including Indiana, Ohio, Oregon, Michigan and now Texas. If open carry is allowed, our rallies are often attended by armed protesters."

"They (the mothers) were sitting in the restaurant and all of a sudden saw cars pull up and these people were getting out of cars and pulling semi-automatic rifles out of their trunks," Watts said.

Kory Watkins, who organized the protests, told National Review's Charles C. W. Cooke that "we were just out there peacefully assembling."

"We walked down the street, away from where they were, and took a couple of pictures," he said. "People were pulling over and honking and all that good stuff. When we were in the parking lot, one of them called us an (expletive) but that was it."

Watts said the other patrons of the Blue Mesa Grill were also "terrified."

Chris Barton, the CFO of Blue Mesa Grill, said that the manager called 911 at 11:35 a.m., shortly after the armed group arrived.

"When the manager called, he told them (the police dispatcher) what was going on," Barton said. "They said that if they are having a peaceful demonstration, they are within their legal rights."

He said the police did arrive as the group was leaving the restaurant area to walk to a nearby Hooters.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-action-open-carry-texas-guns-rifles/3497895/

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ataraxia said:

The NRA had rarely ever done better in terms of sales of firearms than under the Obama administration. Oh, those glory days! With the slogan of "Obama's coming to pry your guns from your cold, dead hands", they scared and angered the gun owners into buying more and more weapons, despite the fact that we have more guns than people in this country already. There was never any real risk to the country’s firearms, of course: Obama’s executive actions were tepid and legislative responses to mass shootings were non-starters on Capitol Hill — despite being fairly weak themselves. But regardless, we are the most armed nation on the planet now. And with the election of Donald Trump, there is no threat to every crazy schizophrenic and convicted felon owning as many military style assault weapons as they please. Time to finally relax just a little, right?

Nope. Can't have that. There's a problem with that: as these poor gun owners are trying to take a sigh of relief and finally relax that death grip on their grenade launching assault weapons just a little, gun sales are slipping.

Horrors! We can't have that! So the NRA has to whip these poor beasts again to get them spooked to stampede and buy even more weapons. So they are desperately trying to find some kind of scary thing they can use to push up those sales again. What can it be? Who....? Oh yeah! The "liberal elites", whoever they may be- that's who!...working in partnership of course with the dreaded and hated “left-wing media” and a judiciary that does “violence to the Constitution’s separation of powers” by opposing President Trump’s noble and freedom-inspiring executive orders. Yeah, that's the ticket!



Wow! Yes! YES!!! You hear that? Hate! Hate! Fear! Fear! Don't stop! Mexicans! Muslims! Refugees! Criminals! Communists! Nazis! Maoists! Bigfoot! UFOs! They are all out to getcha! Keep buying those guns! And they are coming for your women too! You are all that's left to protect all "western civilization"! :lamo

I wonder how much longer they can keep beating these poor beasts to sustain this chronic state of fear, phobia, anger, hatred, and anxiety. Even a rodeo bull must get tired of the bullsh-- and entertaining its owners after a while.

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ataraxia said:

So LaPierre's outrage is cool and completely rational. But mine is not. Got it. Thanks.

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ataraxia said:

This is kinda like saying the KKK/Nazis in Charlottesville and the protestors are all equally to blame for the violence there. This LaPierre guy says some really scary and outrageous things to incite hatred, fear, and undermine governmental institutions, and all you can say is "Just look at this thread you just wrote......full of emotion and nonsense".

Shame on you for trying to defend such dangerously unhinged nonsense.

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TurtleDude said:

IF, and I repeat IF

1) the DNC did not adopt gun control in order to pretend the DNC was a doing something about crime

2) the DNC did not coddle criminals and avoid laws that actually hurt violent thugs

3) the dems and their anti gun media toadies didn't scream for gun bans every time there is a massacre of photogenic victims or members of a leftwing favored group

Then the NRA couldn't do what you claim it does

but the fact remains, liberals constantly scream for gun control because they hate the NRA, they want to pander to the sheep and they don't want to piss off their black constituents with calls for crack downs on violent crime

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ataraxia said:

This is kinda like saying the KKK/Nazis in Charlottesville and the protestors are all equally to blame for the violence there. This LaPierre guy says some really scary and outrageous things to incite hatred, fear, and undermine governmental institutions, and all you can say is "Just look at this thread you just wrote......full of emotion and nonsense".

Shame on you for trying to defend such dangerously unhinged nonsense.

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ataraxia said:

So it's the DNC's fault that LaPierre is attacking and trying to sow mistrust and hatred toward the institutions of the courts and media, the bedrocks of American democracy, and dehumanizing half the country, all just to prop up some slumping gun sales?

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