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Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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You're gonna have to pare that down. Cars nowadays are too small for a bumper sticker that long.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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Give a man a david sling and bullets litter the earth and the gov. can never outlaw string.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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No, it does not work for me. I read this and it makes sense why some americans want an isolationist policy. This philosophy is more about every man for himself rather than a build a better life philosophy of the fishing quote.
 
soylentgreen said:
No, it does not work for me. I read this and it makes sense why some americans want an isolationist policy. This philosophy is more about every man for himself rather than a build a better life philosophy of the fishing quote.
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How about a quote from a British philosopher: Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
 
Rucker61 said:
How about a quote from a British philosopher: Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
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That's not very nice.
 
In my limited experience, if you teach a man to fish, the next thing he wants is a lot of expensive fishing equipment, a boat, license fees waived, and on and on it goes. You may be better off just giving him the fish in the end.
 
humbolt said:
In my limited experience, if you teach a man to fish, the next thing he wants is a lot of expensive fishing equipment, a boat, license fees waived, and on and on it goes. You may be better off just giving him the fish in the end.
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Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

You realist! What are we going to do with you! :lamo
 
Rucker61 said:
How about a quote from a British philosopher: Build a man a fire, and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
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For these kind of thoughts I prefer the one that says, if it can be put into a nutshell then it probably should be left there.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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Give the wrong man a gun and he shoots up a school full of children
 
humbolt said:
In my limited experience, if you teach a man to fish, the next thing he wants is a lot of expensive fishing equipment, a boat, license fees waived, and on and on it goes. You may be better off just giving him the fish in the end.
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Than that's good for the stores that sell the fishing gear, the stores that sell the boats, the town and state gets money from the license fees, and all in all it really helps with the economy and with jobs. If teaching a man to fish results in what you said, than that's great business for shops such as Bass Pro and Cabela's.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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"Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.

Don't teach a man to fish and you feed yourself. He's a grown man and fishing isn't that hard." - Ron Swanson

 
DebateChallenge said:
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for life.

Anyway that same philosophy can be applied to guns in regards to personal protection. Protect a man and he's protected when you're around, give a man a gun and teach him how to use it and he's protected for life even when you're not around.
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Teach a man to fish and he buys a boat, 12 fishing rods, 9 tackle boxes and his lawn never gets mowed. :mrgreen:
 
I think this is simplified to the point of being absurd. As are many of the right-wing styled all-or-nothing, black/white styled worldviews.

In the modern world, most people, even if they don't admit it, divide responsibilities under are fairly civilized, legal framework and lifestyle in the U.S. The inanely high standard of living int he U.S. is a direct result of that. You could move into the wilds and live off the land, but one would argue that would be dramatically less efficient and a dramatically lower standard of living (to each his own, but you get the idea).

You do not build your home typically, you buy it from a builder.
You do not perform your own surgery, you buy that service from a credentialed physician.
You do not write all the software you use, you license it.
You do not grow all the food you consume, you buy it.

The notion that somehow you *should* provide your own personal protection, and not primarily rely on other people to provide it, based on a single phrase, seems absurd.

Why not list the pros/cons, it would at least seem more like you tried. I think in most cases, we do things we enjoy or are good at, and we try to outsource the rest.
 
faithful_servant said:
That's why you train them. But my guess is that you think that anyone shooting a firearm is using the "spray and pray" tactic, since I'd bet that your exposure to firearms is limited to action films.
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Ten years active duty military

We would need to train them so much it would be easier just to hire cops.
 
Mach said:
The notion that somehow you *should* provide your own personal protection, and not primarily rely on other people to provide it, based on a single phrase, seems absurd.
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Only you are actually responsible for your own personal protection. It's your choice to decide if you accept that responsibility.
 
vegas giants said:
Ten years active duty military

We would need to train them so much it would be easier just to hire cops.
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I'd prefer ex-military myself. That and a big sign in front of every school informing everyone that says: "This is an ARMED school. We have a minimum of 10 people trained and experienced with firearms on campus at all times. Every classroom has a secured weapon and in the case of an attack on this school, they are instructed to access that weapon and use it on anyone who enters their classroom until that have been notified that the attack has ended. An attack on this school will be met with immediate LETHAL force." I'd love to see a lot of our ex-military men and women enter into the profession of teaching and in fact would even back giving them preference in hiring.
 
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