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Rucker61 said:
You can provide a citation that "no official figures existed prior to the 80s"
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The official crime survey only began in 1981

Latest figures from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) show that, for the offences
it covers, there were an estimated 7.1 million incidents of crime against households and resident
adults (aged 16 and over) in England and Wales for the year ending June 2014. This represents
a 16% decrease compared with the previous year’s survey, and is the lowest estimate since the
survey began in 1981.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives....ttp://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_380538.pdf
 
flogger said:
The official crime survey only began in 1981

Latest figures from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) show that, for the offences
it covers, there were an estimated 7.1 million incidents of crime against households and resident
adults (aged 16 and over) in England and Wales for the year ending June 2014. This represents
a 16% decrease compared with the previous year’s survey, and is the lowest estimate since the
survey began in 1981.

http://webarchive.nationalarchives....ttp://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_380538.pdf
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"The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) covers a broad range of victim-based crimes
experienced by the resident household population although there are some serious but relatively low
volume offences, such as homicide and sexual offences, that are not included in its main estimates."

We're looking for homicide rates, and I don't think a crime survey is going to give us the right numbers.

From your report:

"In the year ending June 2014 the police recorded 532 homicides, 11 fewer than in the previous year. This latest annual count of homicides is at its lowest since 1978 (532 offences). The number of homicides increased from around 300 per year in the early 1960s to over 800 per year in the early years of this century, which was at a faster rate than population growth over that period"

The above note mentions that the number of homicides in the 60s was about 300 per year; with an average population of about 48 million during that decade for England and Wales, that's a homicide rate of 0.625, using figures from your own source. When do you expect the homicide rate to get back to the 60s rate?
 
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