Wobble Trap

Just as I'm starting to get the hang of standard trap the guys decided to add in a bonus. Now they're shooting clays damned near ground level, an occasional moon shot and all the rest. I didn't think it would add that much to the game but it sure is different trying to come down on a bird.

Lutherf said:

Just as I'm starting to get the hang of standard trap the guys decided to add in a bonus. Now they're shooting clays damned near ground level, an occasional moon shot and all the rest. I didn't think it would add that much to the game but it sure is different trying to come down on a bird.

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When we first brought wobble to our club, one of the old hotshots decided to try it with his Model 12. It took him a while, but like they say, "It's not the bow and arrow, but the Indian."

I haven't shot skeets since high school. I would like to make a serious effort to do that, someday soon.

apdst said:

I haven't shot skeets since high school. I would like to make a serious effort to do that, someday soon.

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Because the world is such an ever changing place, clay target sports are not growing the way I hoped they would. The old guys who dedicated so much time and effort to support their local clubs, whether it was skeet or trap, are now dying off. With the emergence of sporting clays, the available pool of shooters was further diluted. The young kids who used to go hunting and fishing with their dads and uncles have been taught to be afraid of guns by sissy liberals.

If you want to start again, find a local club and just go out on any nice Sunday and hang out for a while. The guys will welcome you with open arms, plus most will be good Second Amendment conservative Republicans who will be interested in the political landscape. I have come to know you by reading your posts here. Trust me, you'll have a blast.

P.S. If the guys don't welcome you with open arms, you should find another club, El Queeko.

apdst said:

I haven't shot skeets since high school. I would like to make a serious effort to do that, someday soon.

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Do it!

I blew it off for years because it struck me as probably being boring and since it was mostly "club" stuff I figured everyone would be snooty. I was wrong. The people are great, the game is a blast and it's not particularly expensive.

Lutherf said:

Just as I'm starting to get the hang of standard trap the guys decided to add in a bonus. Now they're shooting clays damned near ground level, an occasional moon shot and all the rest. I didn't think it would add that much to the game but it sure is different trying to come down on a bird.

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you ought to try Olympic bunker trap. where all the birds go the same distance meaning the different angles travel at different speeds. I thought I would be OK at Bunker after being the silver medalist at the collegiate in wobble and winning the Eastern Conference title for collegiates also in Wobble, though ISU skeet was my main event. Shot like a 65 out of 100 on Real Olympic targets. Now I am pretty decent at it but I shoot it 5-8 times a month. wobble is so much more fun than ATA trap.

here's what the top shooters use.

a 30" over and under shotgun choked Mod/Light full up to Improved modified/Full

fast 7.5 loads. International rules require a 24 G (almost 7/8 ounce-7/8 is now legal) load but for wobble the ideal load is a hot one ounce load going 1250-1300 FPS

you want a gun that shoots fairly flat. Most trap guns are designed to shoot 90/10 or 80/20, the first number being the percentage of shot about the center. that is because ATA targets always are rising. My son has a gun built just for wobble or ISU trap and it shoots 55/45. So does the browning I have won two state titles with. Lots of good wobble shooters are using sporting clays guns-which are much easier to find than dedicated international trap guns. most wobble shooters like a barrel light gun in terms of balance.

I don't know how far you are from the Ben Avery shooting complex in Arizona, but they have real olympic trap there. some of the spring selection shoots for the USAST are held there.

Lutherf said:

Just as I'm starting to get the hang of standard trap the guys decided to add in a bonus. Now they're shooting clays damned near ground level, an occasional moon shot and all the rest. I didn't think it would add that much to the game but it sure is different trying to come down on a bird.

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You are definitely rewarded for gun control!

Lutherf said:

Do it!

I blew it off for years because it struck me as probably being boring and since it was mostly "club" stuff I figured everyone would be snooty. I was wrong. The people are great, the game is a blast and it's not particularly expensive.

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TurtleDude said:

I don't know how far you are from the Ben Avery shooting complex in Arizona, but they have real olympic trap there. some of the spring selection shoots for the USAST are held there.

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Ben Avery is up north of Phoenix. It's a 3 hour drive, maybe less if I get lucky in traffic.

I'll check with the guys at the range next weekend and see if the private club on the other side of town runs a bunker. It would be interesting to take a whack at some birds with a little more speed.

Lutherf said:

Ben Avery is up north of Phoenix. It's a 3 hour drive, maybe less if I get lucky in traffic.

I'll check with the guys at the range next weekend and see if the private club on the other side of town runs a bunker. It would be interesting to take a whack at some birds with a little more speed.

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yeah that would be a trek. we have the only bunker at our club in the South western part of ohio and there is one at the massive cardinal shooting center (now the biggest trap facility in Ohio and one of the biggest in the USA) which is about 30 miles North of Columbus. Ohio juniors do pretty well at the big national shoots, if the Junior Olympics had a three man trap team for each state, I think Ohio would have been top three

Forgot I had internet there for a minute. Looks like the club on the other side of town has what I'm looking for.

Tucson Trap & Skeet Club | Serving Arizona's Shooting Sportsmen since 1948

Lutherf said:

Forgot I had internet there for a minute. Looks like the club on the other side of town has what I'm looking for.

Tucson Trap & Skeet Club | Serving Arizona's Shooting Sportsmen since 1948

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I forgot about them-they hosted the Spring Selection shoot a couple years ago. Yeah give it a try. five fields is what they want for big matches. you shoot 125 targets-5x25 over two days with the top 6 shooting a complicated shootoff (25 targets, one shot only) cut to 5 then five targets-add the 25 before and cut to 4. then another 5 and cut again. then 5 more and cut the bronze medalist. then ten and the guy with the cumulative high score starting with the 25 shootoff targets is winner.

there are 9 IIRC programs for Bunker trap. usually the match director draws them out of a hat. with FIVE fields that means you get 5 presentations. (on our field we shoot one program one day and another the next day).

at each station you get 2 Left targets, 2 Right targets and one straight away (which can have a 5% angle either way).

with 5 fields you only see a target at most TWICE.

give it a try. I try to shoot 2-6 rounds a week. My average is about a 84/100 those who shoot over 90% are shooting a lot. while 100 straights in ATA trap are a dime a dozen, I have only seen 2 100 straights in bunker. both by guys who ended up on our world or Olympic team.