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Just How Racist is the NRA?

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Very racist, it seems

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ict-the-nra-is-silent/?utm_term=.176e7033d818

“We don’t want the NRA to be just for old white guys,” a member of the gun group wrote this week on Hot Air — one of several right-leaning outlets upset with the organization’s failure to speak out on Castile. “It needs to represent everyone who supports and defends the Second Amendment and stays on the right side of the law.”

The Washington Post couldn’t find any statement from the NRA about the verdict or video in Castile’s case, and the organization has not responded to requests for comment since Sunday.
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Black guy with legal gun and CCW shot by cop...crickets. Good job, NRA.
 
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calamity said:
Very racist, it seems

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ict-the-nra-is-silent/?utm_term=.176e7033d818



Black guy with legal gun and CCW shot by cop...crickets. Good job, NRA.
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As a member of the NRA...I don't WANT them to speak out. This is a radioactive topic where the race baiting left will accuse them of racism regardless of statement. It is a no win. Better to just be quiet.

This is SOP for the left. Don't argue the topic. Just call someone a racism and make them defend themselves against baseless claims. Why bother to address the little boy crying wolf?
 
:roll: Someone needs a hug ,,, on a Friday :roll:
 
americanwoman said:
lol One time at a gun show there was an NRA booth and I tried to get more information only to be shut down by a rude elderly lady while she looked at me like I was a swamp monster.

Anyways it does seem odd they wouldn't defend someone who was legally carrying and got shot for it.
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I tell my Wife, if she ever gets stopped, hit the On-Star Button, tell the representative to start recording and call me.
 
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I'm honestly curious. How often in the past has the NRA made a statement about a wrongful police shooting of a legal gun owner? Especially after a jury has found the defendant not guilty? :unsure13:

Moreover, if such has occurred in the past was it always and only white "victims," and always after a jury had found the officer not guilty?

I read the article and it seems more of a "justice was not served by our jury system" propaganda piece, again playing to the Court of Public Opinion to increase readership.

Only this time trying to undermine gun rights advocacy by this attempt to drag the NRA into the mess.

As I have said previously, unless there is a clear case of jury malfeasance (as did happen back in the bad old days of Jim Crow) which does not seem the case here...then despite what the Court of Public Opinion thinks, the only group that matters is the Jury in the case who dealt with ALL the evidence presented by the Defense and Prosecution. :coffeepap:
 
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americanwoman said:
lol One time at a gun show there was an NRA booth and I tried to get more information only to be shut down by a rude elderly lady while she looked at me like I was a swamp monster.

Anyways it does seem odd they wouldn't defend someone who was legally carrying and got shot for it.
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He wasn't shot just because he was carrying; he was shot because he announced he was carrying then reached down towards his waist. The officer then had a choice to decide whether the person in front of him was reaching for wallet or gun. What do you think most cops would do?

Also, if he was actually under the influence of marijuana, he was no longer legally carrying.
 
Rucker61 said:
He wasn't shot just because he was carrying; he was shot because he announced he was carrying then reached down towards his waist. The officer then had a choice to decide whether the person in front of him was reaching for wallet or gun. What do you think most cops would do?

Also, if he was actually under the influence of marijuana, he was no longer legally carrying.
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You can believe what you want to believe and I will too as we will never agree on what happened. We can't speak for what most cops would do. You may want to believe they would all do the same thing but I think different.
 
Rucker61 said:
He wasn't shot just because he was carrying; he was shot because he announced he was carrying then reached down towards his waist. The officer then had a choice to decide whether the person in front of him was reaching for wallet or gun. What do you think most cops would do?

Also, if he was actually under the influence of marijuana, he was no longer legally carrying.
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Well, seeing as how every day on multiple occasions CCWers get pulled over during traffic stops and take wallets out after announcing they are CCWers without getting shot, I think the answer to that is obvious.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I'm honestly curious. How often in the past has the NRA made a statement about a wrongful police shooting of a legal gun owner? Especially after a jury has found the defendant not guilty? :unsure13:

Moreover, if such has occurred in the past was it always and only white "victims," and always after a jury had found the officer not guilty?

I read the article and it seems more of a "justice was not served by our jury system" propaganda piece, again playing to the Court of Public Opinion to increase readership.

Only this time trying to undermine gun rights advocacy by this attempt to drag the NRA into the mess.

As I have said previously, unless there is a clear case of jury malfeasance (as did happen back in the bad old days of Jim Crow) which does not seem the case here...then despite what the Court of Public Opinion thinks, the only group that matters is the Jury in the case who dealt with ALL the evidence presented by the Defense and Prosecution. :coffeepap:
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Well put. And I don't think I recall them ever speaking out. Did they with George Zimmerman? I think if I recall...the closest thing was the Zimmerman case where they bitched about media coverage and sensationalism (remembering that NBC ACTUALLY put out edited footage to make it a race issue.
 
A year ago the NRA made a statement that they would comment on it after the investigation.

"As the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization, the NRA proudly supports the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for defense of themselves and others regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.
"The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.
"Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known," the statement said.
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But I have been unable to find anywhere that they followed through on that promise.

NRA will comment on Philando Castile's death following investigation - CNN.com
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Well, seeing as how every day on multiple occasions CCWers get pulled over during traffic stops and take wallets out after announcing they are CCWers without getting shot, I think the answer to that is obvious.
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It is hard to know EXACTLY what caused this cop to panic. I'm curious. The guy announced. But he didn't follow directions. I mean I have given loaded and unloaded firearms to officers (game warden and carrying concealed). The one thing I do is go slow and deliberate. Did this guy just start reaching? Causing officer fife to panic?
 
americanwoman said:
You can believe what you want to believe and I will too as we will never agree on what happened. We can't speak for what most cops would do. You may want to believe they would all do the same thing but I think different.
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We don't know what anyone saw because we weren't there, nor did we attend the trial or sit in on the jury deliberations. I can't speak for all cops, but I carry, and if I were to ever get pulled over while doing so I rest my hands on the steering wheel, inform the officer the I was a licensed CCW holder, that I was currently carrying and that both my firearm and wallet were on my right hip. I would then ask him how he wanted to proceed and wait for further instructions. I would be excessively cautious in my actions to eliminate any chance that the officer might think his life was in danger.

Your milage may vary.
 
blackjack50 said:
Officer found innocent. How can they? They say anything and they are a racist. They are already a racist for saying nothing.
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This is the problem right here, and why the NRA does indeed have a "race problem".
A majority of NRA members are going to be reactionary in their defense of the actions of a cop (no matter how trigger-happy) over the black man who gets shot in a questionable interaction.

It's all political for the NRA, and that is why they remain silent on the issue.
Just check out this board where y'all were celebrating Yanez's "exoneration" by having a toast in his honor.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Well, seeing as how every day on multiple occasions CCWers get pulled over during traffic stops and take wallets out after announcing they are CCWers without getting shot, I think the answer to that is obvious.
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Do they announce they have a gun then reach down to where a gun could be, or do they follow the careful step by step instructions of the cop? I haven't been pulled over for a traffic ticket since 1979, so I'm not real familiar with modern procedures.

Are any of these every day pullovers with minority drivers with CCW who manage to get through their traffic stop without getting shot or do cops shoot the dark ones as a matter of policy?

I don't deny that this was a tragic incident, and I can understand why the anti's take every chance to castigate the NRA, but in this case I think that is misguided.
 
Another bait thread? Good stuff. Keep posting it.

NRA, the most hateful and racist bunch alive. They do not allow anyone of color to own a weapon, ever. The 2nd amendment isn't for all citizens, that's what they say. THey tell cops to not pull over white criminals, ever. That isn't an easy task, esp at night.

Can't wait for more. You see, the colorblind don't come up with this.
 
RickJames3000 said:
This is the problem right here, and why the NRA does indeed have a "race problem".
A majority of NRA members are going to be reactionary in their defense of the actions of a cop (no matter how trigger-happy) over the black man who gets shot in a questionable interaction.

It's all political for the NRA, and that is why they remain silent on the issue.
Just check out this board where y'all were celebrating Yanez's "exoneration" by having a toast in his honor.
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Let's not stand on ceremony here. Just call me a racist for being a white and having the audacity to not agree 100% with you? That is ultimately what this is to YOU and EVERY OTHER liberal that espouses this stupid **** about the NRA. So let's just get it out of the way? Call me a racist. That's where it is going. It doesn't matter my views or What I say.
 
Rucker61 said:
Do they announce they have a gun then reach down to where a gun could be, or do they follow the careful step by step instructions of the cop? I haven't been pulled over for a traffic ticket since 1979, so I'm not real familiar with modern procedures.

Are any of these every day pullovers with minority drivers with CCW who manage to get through their traffic stop without getting shot or do cops shoot the dark ones as a matter of policy?

I don't deny that this was a tragic incident, and I can understand why the anti's take every chance to castigate the NRA, but in this case I think that is misguided.
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I got pulled over, and that was only a few years ago. Mistaken identity. I heard "hands up", and my hands were up and stayed up. I waited for further instructions. Lights in my face, guns drawn. They saw that I wasn't the person they were looking for, they apologized, I mentioned " ok" or something profound since my heart was coming out of my chest and I could hardly talk. Life goes on.
 
blackjack50 said:
Let's not stand on ceremony here. Just call me a racist for being a white and having the audacity to not agree 100% with you? That is ultimately what this is to YOU and EVERY OTHER liberal that espouses this stupid **** about the NRA. So let's just get it out of the way? Call me a racist. That's where it is going. It doesn't matter my views or What I say.
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I see you default to personal outrage whenever you are unable to make a rational counterargument.
Well done.:roll:
 
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RickJames3000 said:
I see you default to personal outrage whenever you are unable to make a rational counterargument.
Well done.:roll:
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You mean like when someone makes a reasonable statement and you IMMEDIATELY pull out the race card? See how it stops discussion? If you think I'm outraged at yet ANOTHER liberal calling me a racist for not believing lock step with their views...then you really don't understand what it is like to be a republican in modern America.

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Now. If you would LIKE...we can continue on about this as normal...or you can just call the NRA racist for NOT saying something. The Nra isn't racist. It was started by Union Army officers trying to promote marksmanship and now is a rights advocacy group with plenty of black members. And it can't make a statement on this topic because they are damned if they do and damned if they don't because of people like you.

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blackjack50 said:
You mean like when someone makes a reasonable statement and you IMMEDIATELY pull out the race card? See how it stops discussion? If you think I'm outraged at yet ANOTHER liberal calling me a racist for not believing lock step with their views...then you really don't understand what it is like to be a republican in modern America.

;)

Now. If you would LIKE...we can continue on about this as normal...or you can just call the NRA racist for NOT saying something. The Nra isn't racist. It was started by Union Army officers trying to promote marksmanship and now is a rights advocacy group with plenty of black members. And it can't make a statement on this topic because they are damned if they do and damned if they don't because of people like you.

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This hold thread is a race card
 
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