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The Gun Control movement banks on dishonesty [W:103]

jet57 said:
I gave you absolute proof that NRA shill for the gun industry and perpetuates the lie that the second amendment is under attack.

I've given absolute proof that the second amendment is not an unlimited right.

I given absolute proof that this country has a long history of gun control laws that dates back to the colonial period when the second amendment was much fresher in the minds of citizens.

I've given absolute proof that American terrorists can buy their weapons or otherwise get them fee and clear in this country.

I've shown time and time again that the gun good version of the second amendment and the reality have never matched.

All you've show is denial of facts with nothing to back it up.
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what a crock of bat crap claiming the second amendment isn't under attack. Your nonsense about limitations proves you are lying about that. You support the following

1) bans on magazines that hold ten rounds or more

2) bans on semi auto weapons such as the AR 15

3) bans on "Shall issue" CCW licenses.

those are all attacks on the Second amendment
 
jet57 said:
You demanded proof and I gave you proof. There is not one thing about the gun issues I've posted on that I have not proven.

As always, proof isn't enough for gun thugs.
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:lamo
 
BretJ said:
Did you even read what he asked you to substantiate?? :cuckoo:
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Yeah
so when you hear crap like "gun safety" or "common sense" or "reasonable" gun laws you know its going to be more schemes to disarm you and rape your second amendment rights
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That's a lie and I posted proof of it.
 
jet57 said:
Prove that I haven't proven what I've said.

Bet ya' can't.
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Prove that I haven't proven that you haven't proven what you have said. :cuckoo:
 
BretJ said:
Prove that I haven't proven that you haven't proven what you have said. :cuckoo:
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Prove that haven't proven what I've proven so many times that I don't want to prove it again.

It's not my fault that people can't read.


so when you hear crap like "gun safety" or "common sense" or "reasonable" gun laws you know its going to be more schemes to disarm you and rape your second amendment rights
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Is a lie
 
jet57 said:
Ya'mean like this!? -

This Is How The Gun Industry Funds The NRA - Business Insider


https://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2012/07/23/the-nra-industrial-complex/#3b96ee0d2506




The OP is another gun industry shill lie that bastardizes our second amendment rights.
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The government who funds millions in cash and man hours to come up with tons of redundant laws................ takes money away from the taxpayers to do so.

Gun manufacturers backing the NRA is BS though.....right? Even though they don't suck off the taxpayer tit.

Your own words reek of hypocrisy.
 
jet57 said:
Prove that haven't proven what I've proven so many times that I don't want to prove it again.

It's not my fault that people can't read.




Is a lie
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Prove it.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
There goal is obvious, the end game is a flat out ban, crawled towards in incremental degrees under these guises as americans will not embrace an overnight all out ban.

I call on reasonable people to see this, great post Turtledude!:applaud

Cant have mine! View attachment 67219089
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Possibly the dreamiest pic on DB.

:2party:
 
TurtleDude said:
you've been here almost 5 years and you expect any proof from a gun banner?
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Mom tried to teach me not to make fun of folks such as Jet....but I can't help it sometimes.....
 
OlNate said:
Possibly the dreamiest pic on DB.

:2party:
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ever see Peter Benchley's movie THE ISLAND Starring Michael Caine as a reporter who is kidnapped by 18th century era pirates? that dude looked like the guy who was trying to figure out how to use an M16 after the pirates wiped out the sailors on a coast guard cutter (and Michael Caine had just racked the slide back on a M2 Browning and was starting to commit massive piratecide)
 
jet57 said:
"Schemes to disarm you", is an outright lie. "Gun control Trickery" is just BS aimed at the ignorant.
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So Feinstein, a major gun "control" advocate and Senator has never just "settled" for less than what she wanted? And has never tried to get more done?

There are plenty of people out there Jet that want a total ban on all civilians owning guns. Why do you deny this?
 
jet57 said:
Post # 15; read it, absorb it, be it.

THEN comment
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your stupid post proves nothing. that gun banners cause people to buy guns which in turn makes money for gun dealers and makers and those sellers give money to the NRA proves nothing
 
Kal'Stang said:
So Feinstein, a major gun "control" advocate and Senator has never just "settled" for less than what she wanted? And has never tried to get more done?

There are plenty of people out there Jet that want a total ban on all civilians owning guns. Why do you deny this?
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because it destroys the lie that those who want "sensible gun laws" are going to stop when those laws are passed.

what we KNOW happens is that those laws are guaranteed to fail and when they fail to do a damn thing about criminals, the gun banners who denied wanting more restrictions, demand more restrictions. and when those second wave restrictions fail, they will be back demanding a third wave of restrictions.

Jet claims we are lying or paranoid but look at California and CT, and NY. I said YEARS AGO that a ten round limit would not satisfy assholes like Cuomo Feinswine and Brady. I was right, NY used Sandy Hook as an excuse to try to impose a 7 round limit.
 
jet57 said:
Post # 15; read it, absorb it, be it.

THEN comment
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Assertions based on vapid opinions and cut and paste do not constitute proof. But knock yourself out.
 
BretJ said:
Assertions based on vapid opinions and cut and paste do not constitute proof. But knock yourself out.
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I read through that swill and I have no idea what his point was. WE know that gun banner reactions to active shootings cause people to buy guns. Gun banners use any publicized shooting as a chance to advance the gun ban agenda. for example-idiots calling for WAITING periods after LANZA murdered his mother and stole her rifle. and of COURSE companies that make and or sell firearms are going to support the NRA which wants to prevent gun bans. Jet acts as if that is some big conspiracy. He also tries to suggest gun owners are paranoid when gun banners like him call for bans on AR 15s, normal sized magazines and other things.
 
Kal'Stang said:
So Feinstein, a major gun "control" advocate and Senator has never just "settled" for less than what she wanted? And has never tried to get more done?

There are plenty of people out there Jet that want a total ban on all civilians owning guns. Why do you deny this?
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She's one person: do you still have your right to keep and bear?

Yes you do.

Your hyperbole shows how gullible you are.
 
BretJ said:
Assertions based on vapid opinions and cut and paste do not constitute proof. But knock yourself out.
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Your assertions are quite vapid, yes.

You can't refute anything I say, so where's that leave your vapid opinion then.
 
TurtleDude said:
I read through that swill and I have no idea what his point was. WE know that gun banner reactions to active shootings cause people to buy guns. Gun banners use any publicized shooting as a chance to advance the gun ban agenda. for example-idiots calling for WAITING periods after LANZA murdered his mother and stole her rifle. and of COURSE companies that make and or sell firearms are going to support the NRA which wants to prevent gun bans. Jet acts as if that is some big conspiracy. He also tries to suggest gun owners are paranoid when gun banners like him call for bans on AR 15s, normal sized magazines and other things.
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I work one day a week at my local pawn shop for the last 3 years (lawn care dude) They agree, Obama was a great gun seller.
 
jet57 said:
She's one person: do you still have your right to keep and bear?

Yes you do.

Your hyperbole shows how gullible you are.
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lets examine the state that produced feinswine

You cannot own a real AR 15

you are a criminal if you don't turn in your 15 round MI magazines that you might have purchased from the federal government's DCM

you have no right to carry a handgun-that is based on the arbitrary and capricious decisions of Democrat bureaucrats in many parts of the state

you might not even be able to REGISTER, semi auto rifles that you have owned for years because of the change in the law. So you are now a criminal

and you have the nerve to bray about Feinswine not banning guns? if she had her way, your weapon of war-that MI carbine, would have been confiscated 23 years ago
 
Slingshot Bob said:
I work one day a week at my local pawn shop for the last 3 years (lawn care dude) They agree, Obama was a great gun seller.
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Obama and Brady both were given awards by the sporting arms industry leaders for being great gun salespersons. Every time Obama yapped about guns, another million AR 15s were sold
 
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